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Thread: E8400 on EP43-UD3L




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    Default E8400 on EP43-UD3L

    Long time lurker here, seeking a little bit of help from what appears to be a very knowledgable community.

    Last week I made the jump from an old AMD S939 machine to a fresh intel build. The last 8 years or so have been all AMD for me so I'm pretty bad at this intel overclocking business.

    First of all the board, I don't see a whole lot about this board in this forum. I picked it up because the 680i I had wouldn't work, and I needed something immediately that could be bought local. I'm not sure if this board is even capable of what I want it to do.

    Currently I've brought the up to 3.7Ghz stable. 411x9, using the 2D strap bringing memory up to 822. Timings are 5-5-5-15. The ram is Gskill F2-8000CL5-2GBPQ. 2x2GB sticks. Mem voltage = 1.9, from what I've read this memory won't mind running 2.1 but there is nothing to be gained by it. I have no advanced timings set for the memory, which I imagine is the problem. You can pretty much assume anything I've not mentioned is on Auto.

    I've got my Vcore at 1.325 in Bios, showing 1.33 in Everest. (This does not make sense at all, isn't it supposed to droop?). In the bios PC health it shows droop.

    The CPU is a Stepping E0 if that matters. Bios is F1, doesn't look like the updates have anything important except maybe something about ITE8718 KX.

    Here is some more data I've got out of CPUid about the memory:

    Code:
    General
    Memory type        DDR2
    Module format        Regular UDIMM
    Manufacturer (ID)    G.Skill (7F7F7F7FCD000000)
    Size            2048 MBytes
    Max bandwidth        PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
    Part number        F2-8000CL5-2GBPQ
    
    Attributes
    Number of banks        2
    Data width        64 bits
    Correction        None
    Nominal Voltage        1.80 Volts
    EPP            yes (1 profiles)
    XMP            no
    
    Timings table
    Frequency (MHz)        266    400    
    CAS#            4.0    5.0    
    RAS# to CAS# delay    4    5    
    RAS# Precharge        4    5    
    TRAS            10    15    
    TRC            16    24    
    
    EPP profile 1 (full)
    Voltage level        2.100 Volts
    Address Command Rate    2T
    Cycle time        2.000 ns (500.0 MHz)
    tCL            5.0 clocks
    tRCD            5 clocks (10.00 ns)
    tRP            5 clocks (10.00 ns)
    tRAS            15 clocks (30.00 ns)
    tRC            45 clocks (90.00 ns)
    tWR            12 clocks (24.00 ns)
    And voltages in CPUid:
    Code:
    Hardware monitor
    -----------------------------------------------------
    
    ITE IT87 hardware monitor
    
    Voltage sensor 0    1.33 Volts [0x53] (CPU VCORE)
    Voltage sensor 1    1.90 Volts [0x77] (VIN1)
    Voltage sensor 2    3.34 Volts [0xD1] (+3.3V)
    Voltage sensor 3    5.00 Volts [0xBA] (+5V)
    Voltage sensor 4    2.24 Volts [0x23] (+12V)
    Voltage sensor 7    5.11 Volts [0xBE] (+5V VCCH)
    Voltage sensor 8    3.14 Volts [0xC4] (VBAT)
    Temperature sensor 0    40C (103F) [0x28] (TMPIN0)
    Temperature sensor 1    34C (93F) [0x22] (TMPIN1)
    Fan sensor 0        2491 RPM [0x10F] (FANIN0)
    Not sure what else I can add. The Chip runs cool at this 3.7 setting. If it matters, it has a Zalman 9700 copper sitting on it with the included Zalman thermal compound. I usually run this machine at 3.6 (400x9) and idle temps sit around 32 degrees. The above CPUID pastes are actually under a slight load (WoW running). I've never seen the chip get hotter than 46 degrees even under ortho's blend.

    Please let me know if any more information is needed to acquire advice, I'd like to get this thing going at 4Ghz stable.


    Cheers

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    Default Re: E8400 on EP43-UD3L

    Sorry for the late reply here!!

    I would of course update your BIOS to the latest, they only add Major changes to the change logs so you may be missing or looking over other small but important changes that are not noted.

    P43 is pretty FSB Limited (415-425) so you are at the upper limit of things as far as the FSB is concerned. You need a P45 or P35 to reach 4Ghz with that CPU

    As for your advanced ram timings, you should for sure see them. I would say update your BIOS first to be sure that is not the issue. Please see here for proper flashing procedure, and do not use @BIOS >>>
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/bios...h-guide-27576/

    Then if you are still not seeing them you may need to use the Hot key, but I do not think you should need to. I checked and the options are in Both BIOS versions I looked at (F1 and F3) see image >>



    So if you do not find them then you will have to try the hot key. On the MAIN page of the BIOS hit Control + F1 and the screen will flash, then go into the MIT Section and you will find your advanced memory options

    Your voltage concern with vcore is likely also corrected in a BIOS update, yes it should be less then what you set in the BIOS at idle and less then that at load. But that amount varies from Voltage setting to voltage setting, and of course less is not always desired anyway

    If you do need help with your settings let me know, and give me the ones you are using that fail and I will try to help >>>

    This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................
    tRCD .........................................
    tRP'...........................................
    tRAS..........................................
    
    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first.  Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................
    tWTR..........................................
    tWR............................................
    tRFC...........................................
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:Auto if not overclocking, if you are overclocking please do find and set your own voltages
    
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much.  Optimal range for overclock would be 1.2-1.5 depending on Vcore, try to keep at least .1 under vcore.  Auto is fine if not overclocking
    
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much.  Optimal range for overclock would be 1.5-1.65.  Auto is fine if not overclocking
    
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: E8400 on EP43-UD3L

    Hey, no rush LSD.

    I think my wording was poor and threw you off. I do have the advanced timings section of the BIOS, that isn't missing. I've got it up to 3.8 now which I think is as good as it's gonna get.

    However, I'm at work right now, so I will add another reply later with the requested information.

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