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    Default New member with new build

    New member with new build
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    Great forum, lots of info for the newbees, like me. I have built a few systems for other people (low budget) and now it is time to build one for me. I have never overclocked before, but it is my main interest at this time. My goal is 4Ghz and above.
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    My build
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    Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 or<o:p></o:p>
    Intel Core 2 Duo E8500
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    I no most people will say get the E8500 and get better graphic card with the money saved. Keeping in mind my goal of 4Ghz and being new to Overclocking I thought the E8600 may be a better choice. Your thoughts?
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    G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2
    I am not sure if this ram is the best choice for this build. Your thoughts?
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    Power supply, I no it is not the best choice but I got it on sale for $40
    Rosewill RP550 550W<o:p></o:p>
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    The same thing goes for the heatsink, $13 open box <o:p></o:p>
    ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro
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    I figured this would get me up and running with upgrading power supply, heatsink & OS in the future.
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    OS, XP Pro 32bit
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    So my question is will this setup get me to 4Ghz and above, keeping the temps in line with this heatsink?
    That is why I thought the E8600 might be a better choice.
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    Your thoughts and advice would be welcomed <o:p></o:p>
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    Default Re: New member with new build

    Quote Originally Posted by jbarr View Post
    New member with new build
    <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--><o:p></o:p>
    Great forum, lots of info for the newbees, like me. I have built a few systems for other people (low budget) and now it is time to build one for me. I have never overclocked before, but it is my main interest at this time. My goal is 4Ghz and above.
    <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--><o:p></o:p>
    My build
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    Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 or<o:p></o:p>
    Intel Core 2 Duo E8500
    <!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--><o:p></o:p>
    I no most people will say get the E8500 and get better graphic card with the money saved. Keeping in mind my goal of 4Ghz and being new to Overclocking I thought the E8600 may be a better choice. Your thoughts?
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    GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R<o:p></o:p>
    EVGA 512-P3-N871-AR GeForce 9800 GTX(G92)
    Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM
    LG Black 22X DVD burner
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    G.SKILL PI Black 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2
    I am not sure if this ram is the best choice for this build. Your thoughts?
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    Power supply, I no it is not the best choice but I got it on sale for $40
    Rosewill RP550 550W<o:p></o:p>
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    The same thing goes for the heatsink, $13 open box <o:p></o:p>
    ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro
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    I figured this would get me up and running with upgrading power supply, heatsink & OS in the future.
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    OS, XP Pro 32bit
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    So my question is will this setup get me to 4Ghz and above, keeping the temps in line with this heatsink?
    That is why I thought the E8600 might be a better choice.
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    Your thoughts and advice would be welcomed <o:p></o:p><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--><o:p></o:p><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--><o:p></o:p><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--><o:p></o:p><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--><o:p></o:p><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--><o:p></o:p><!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--> <!--[endif]--><o:p></o:p>
    Go 8500, 8600 is little too expensive, you could get Quad cpu for about same price.

    G.Skill is awesome, I also have it too.

    Brand Rosewell PSU is kind of sucks tho...try look for little better brand and little more money maybe range $50-80 if you are going overclock that need lots of powers.

    Stay away from Rosewell or PSU will burn out or kills some devices.

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    Default Re: New member with new build

    You could save even more with an E8400. Some on here seem to be getting 4.0. I'm trying to get there gradually. Up to 3.6 now.
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    Default Re: New member with new build

    Thanks for the tips, got me thinking again!

    I get it, PS is a peace of crap, but why??

    It looks good on paper

    Single Rail
    1x 20+4-Pin Main Connector
    1x 4+4-Pin ATX12V/EPS12V Connector
    1x 6-Pin PCI-E Connector
    6x 4-Pin Peripheral Connector
    4x 5-Pin SATA Connector
    2x 4-Pin Floppy Connector

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    Default Re: New member with new build

    Quote Originally Posted by jbarr View Post
    Thanks for the tips, got me thinking again!

    I get it, PS is a peace of crap, but why??

    It looks good on paper

    Single Rail
    1x 20+4-Pin Main Connector
    1x 4+4-Pin ATX12V/EPS12V Connector
    1x 6-Pin PCI-E Connector
    6x 4-Pin Peripheral Connector
    4x 5-Pin SATA Connector
    2x 4-Pin Floppy Connector
    Single rail is not recommend either, try find PSU that have more than one single rail at Egg.

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    I would go with the E8500 CPU, I have mine overclocked to 3.61 MHz on air cool. No problems and no over heating at all. I had it to 4.0 but got scared....LOL
    Gigabyte EP45-UD3R P45 775 R (rev: 1.1),
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    SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon HD 5770
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    Default Re: New member with new build

    OK..Power supply has to go, Move to CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W<o:p></o:p>
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139005
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    CPU E8400 or E8500
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    Open box Cooler ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro was bought on line, unseen, $12.99 + shipping, 20 bucks, no big deal putting it in the spar parts box. It came in original box, thermal compound on heatsink, fan and cable. Will this cooler provide adequate cooling for an E8400 at 3.6 or 4.0?
    Or do I need to get one of these and why?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233003
    or
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233029
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    Yes my objective is to build a good gaming machine, sorry I left that out.
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    GeForce GTS 250
    Newegg.com - XFX GS250XYDFC GeForce GTS 250 512MB Core Edition 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards $117 + shipping<o:p></o:p>
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    GeForce 9800 GTX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130339 $135 + shipping<o:p></o:p>
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    GeForce GTX 260<o:p></o:p>
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130370 $190 + shipping <o:p></o:p>
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    The GTS 250 is definitly the bang for the buck right now. Would the GTX 260 be over kill? I will be playing FPS games, Crysis & Halo on a ViewSonic 22 1680 X1050 screen.

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    Default Re: New member with new build

    The Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 is a great performer with the fan on high. If you want a better cooler for not much more, the Xigmatec S1283 is a great performer for the money.

    That PSU is not crap per se, but its not as reliable as the big brands, won't output as clean power, is less efficient, and has an outdated design (for example, the RP550 has only one PCIe 6-pin connector, but the 9800 GTX calls for two PCIe 6-pin connectors). Power supplies these days are typically more than 80% efficient, where as that older RP550 will be 65-75% efficient my guess. That means with a heavy load, more heat will build up in the PSU than the more efficient PSUs. If the RP550 works though (and it can actually put out 35A of 12v power or 420W), it's a decent deal, but I recommend something like the Corsair 450VX. Further reduces possiblity of PSU-induced failure and protects your components.

    I don't know anything about memory, so the mem gurus will have to assist ye there. I do know that G.SKILL is highly regarded, though.

    The GTX 260 will provide a smoother experience in Crysis, but for other games, there should be little to nil difference.
    Last edited by riva2model64; 03-29-2009 at 06:34 AM.

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    Default Re: New member with new build

    I have the xigmatek hdt-s1283. I'm currently overclocked to 3.78 on an E8400 C0. I also bought the Xigmatec ACK-I7751 Crossbow mounting kit as the 1283 is fairly heavy and I didn't want to depend on the pushpins to hold it and was afraid it might bend the MB. IT is a pita to install though. Make sure it'll fit in your case as well, as it's tall. Temps after 37 minutes of prime95 got to 58 deg C. Idle is about 44 deg C.
    I'm going for 3.9 today.
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