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    Default Re: GA31M-ES2L<-- Is this OC able?

    Thanks Chike, one other question though: I've read where some say the BIOS PC Health temp reading is the one to go by but is that the case? I say that because PC Health shows the cpu temp as around 30C degrees, vs 52C degrees according to RealTemp/CPUID. So which should I go by? I've also read sites that say the 45nm C2D temp reporting is not accurate so I'm a little confused. Is my CPU running too hot for sure? Should I trust the BIOS temperature readings or CPUID/Realtemp?

    Thanks, and I'll look at that cooler. I want to order something by tomorrow or Monday at the latest...
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    Default Re: GA31M-ES2L<-- Is this OC able?

    PC Health read a diode that no one realy knows where is it located.
    The programs we use read core temperatures of a digital sensor(s) that are located in 3 hot-spots on the core. They are not accurate though and according to intel temps below 50c are considered just as that(below 50c)
    What is important really is the high temps where the DTSs are more accurate, but still ±5c possible error.

    It's been long since I've used the stock HS, nor I knew about core temps back then so I can't say much about it.

    My old E7200 never exceeded 70c with Prime95 @3.85GHz amd Scythe Mugen 2 cooler.
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    Ok, thanks. Now I read conflicting info on applying paste/TIM. Do I apply to BOTH the CPU and bottom of Heatsink fan (arcticsilver suggests a strip down the core of the cpu) or just one or the other?

    I think since I have a potential heat problem, I might as well install a new cooler and apply a quality paste and then start with measuring stock temps/speeds and then go back to trying the OC.
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    Default Re: GA31M-ES2L<-- Is this OC able?

    The goal is to apply the least amount of TIM to provide a very thin coating that covers the surface of the cpu. Too much TIM will increase temperatures. I subscribe to the small grain of rice amount when you are NOT using an HDT (heatpipe direct touch) type of cpu heatsink.

    Check out:
    BenchmarkReviews: Best Practices for Thermal Interface Material Paste Application Methods and Thermal Grease Patterns
    Arctic Silver, Inc. - Intel® Application Methods and click on the cpu type for the recommended method.
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    Thanks jim the paste pics were cool and I read the AS directions for the C2D, hence the remark about the 'strip' of paste. I honestly don't remember if I even pasted the CPU side since the 775 Intel stock cooler had some preapplied patches of TIM. I really want to removed the stock HS and see how things look. The stock goop is probably toast with this computer being 3 years old now, though lightly used (not even every day).

    But for emphasis, does the bottom of the cooler/fan AND the top of the cpu need paste applied?
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    Default Re: GA31M-ES2L<-- Is this OC able?

    You only need to apply a short thin line of TIM to the top of the cpu.
    It's important that the top of the cpu and the bottom of the heatsink both are thoroughly cleaned to remove all of the previous thermal paste.
    Denatured alcohol or 91% pure rubbing alcohol work well.
    I use a q-tip where the tip is dipped into the cleaning compound, but make sure that is not dripping when you clean the cpu.
    I don't remove the cpu when cleaning it.

    Apply the new TIM to the top of the cpu and then place your heatsink on top of the cpu using a slight twisting motiion and press it down firmly.
    Immediately remove the heatsink and inspect the top of the cpu to ensure that the top of the cpu is fully covered.
    If you applied too much TIM, you will find the excess has spread to the top edges of the cpu.
    Too little TIM won't fully cover the top of the cpu.
    Clean off the new TIM completely from both surfaces, and then reapply the TIM once you are sure that you used the correct amount.
    The purpose of a thin TIM application is to improve cooling by preventing hot spots caused by minor irregularities between both surfaces.

    For a humorous look at TIM material, check out Thermal Interface Material (TIM) Cooling Chart

    Congratulations, you're now a TIM expert.
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    I'm trying to dogpaddle as it is for fear of drowning in a sea of TIM know-how lol......I read where some said to immediately remove the HSF from the CPU to check the coverage but they simply put the HSF back in place. I wondered how that would affect coverage so I appreciate the info...

    I still need to find a decent budget (under $50) cooler/HS for my e7200/775 board. I have the Coolermaster Centurion so I need to do some measuring to see what will fit...
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    Default Re: GA31M-ES2L<-- Is this OC able?

    I don't recommend reinstalling the heatsink after you have inspected the TIM application, as there will probably now be trapped air pockets.
    It's just plain lazy if you don't clean off the new TIM and reapply the same amount if the cpu surface was fully covered.

    If you're in Canada or the USA, check out Newegg prices, as they frequently have heatsinks with free shipping and/or a mail in rebate.
    If your cpu case is very narrow, a heatsink with a 92mm fan should easily fit and still provide excellent cooling.
    My preference is to buy a highly rated heatsink that comes with a fan that uses a fluid dynamic bearing (FDB) for quieter operation and a much longer service life.

    There is an awful lot of bad TIM advice on the web.
    When you are an expert in a specific area, you know what shortcuts can and can't be used through trial and error.
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    Exactly, thanks again....I just know something's definitely wrong when CPUID reports CPU temps of 79C degrees after only a few minutes of Prime95...at stock speed with stock HSF!!
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    Default Re: GA31M-ES2L<-- Is this OC able?

    Here is a list of LGA775 heatsinks sorted by best product rating (from users):
    Newegg.com - Computer Hardware, Fans & Heatsinks, CPU Fans & Heatsinks, LGA 775, etc
    You can also sort the list by lowest price.

    The COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus looks like a winner. It uses an HDT setup which requires a slightly different TIM application method.
    I have two Xigmatek HDT heatsinks and had no problem using the HDT TIM application method, but they didn't send me either of my mail in rebates.
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