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Thread: EP45-UD3R, abit WiFi PCIe and RAM




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    Default EP45-UD3R, abit WiFi PCIe and RAM

    First of, run down of the system:

    GA-EP45-UDR3 v1.0 with Bios F8
    Q6600 Quad Core CPU
    2 x 2GB Corsair XMS2-8500 (matched pair)
    2 x Seagate SATA2 200GB drives
    Sapphire ATI x1550 Graphics card
    Thermaltake TR2-470PP PSU
    1 x IDE CDROM
    Internally connected USB card reader

    I'm using the Optimised BIOS profile as standard with the exception of the RAM voltage being tweaked to 2.1v from the initial 1.80v.

    The major problem I'm having is that I have an abit AirPace 802.11b/g PCI Express Mini Card (Product No: WLP-01) which when I insert into the motherboard, I get now graphics output! I'm fairly certain the machine is booting as normal as I hear Windows XP's startup tune. I've tried it in two of the three PCIe x1 slots to no avail. The card was in an abit mobo until two days ago when I swapped it out for the EP45-UD3R so I'm assuming it still works :)

    The other thing is this isn't a gaming PC and it will never be. What I'm intrested in is a nice stable (speedy but not OC'd) machine. I've noticed that quite a lot of people have different results with regards RAM (obviously this isn't just Gigabyte!) and doing a search I've noticed people have mentioned the type of RAM I'm using. Is there a a good arguement for settings things such as RAM timings manually rather than letting the BIOS detect it? Is there actually some sort of table or chart which I can check against to make sure the BIOS is detecting and setting up the RAM (and I guess the CPU) to get the best out of it?

    So many questions, so little knowledge :)

    Suggestions appreciated!


    Regards

    Richard S

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R, abit WiFi PCIe and RAM

    It sounds like you might have an IRQ sharing/conflict with the Abit card and the video. You might have to manually set the Abit IRQ to a specific value. Is there a jumper setting on the Abit card to use a different IRQ?

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R, abit WiFi PCIe and RAM

    Yeah that Corsair RAM can be trouble, i bought two kits for 8GB and both of them could only do 900MHz. The replacements work fine though. But if you don't get freezes/crashes it means your RAM is alright.

    Try setting the BIOS boot first device to PEG, maybe it's somehow getting confused and thinking the wifi is a video card. As for IRQs and jumpers, well, my dual-PIII rig needs some configuration of those, but in today's systems there are tons of IRQs, so unless the card is hardwired to certain addresses (unlikely) you shouldn't run into trouble because of that.
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R, abit WiFi PCIe and RAM

    First off, here's my BIOS settings:


    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9 X
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: <-- Option not on mine
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.40GHz (266x9)

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: Disabled
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 266
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: Auto
    C.I.A.2 .................................:Disabled

    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800mV
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900mV
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: Standard
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: Auto
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: Auto
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: Manual
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................: 5
    tRCD .........................................: 5
    tRP'..........................................: 5
    tRAS..........................................: 15
    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD........................................... 3
    tWTR.......................................... 3
    tWR............................................ 4
    tRFC........................................... 52
    tRTP........................................... 3
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 2
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................: Auto
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:Auto
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Manual
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:Auto
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: Auto
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: Auto
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: Auto
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: Auto
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: Auto
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; Auto
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Auto
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: Auto
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: Auto
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.100V
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: Auto
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: Auto
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: Auto
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: Disabled
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: Enabled
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: Enabled
    C2/C2E State Support....................: <-- Option not on mine
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: <-- Option not on mine
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: Enabled
    CPU EIST Function.........................: Enabled
    Virtualization Technology................: Enabled
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............Enabled


    The RAM settings were manually entered after finding some settinggs somewhere round here. I did this because IE was crashing randomly and after putting in these settings it stopped crashing :) No idea if they are actually correct mind :D

    With regards the Abit WiFi card, there is no jumper/switches on it. I've just tried the PEG setting and it made no difference :(

    Thanks for the help thus far :)

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R, abit WiFi PCIe and RAM

    Those settings are the right ones for that RAM.

    As for your wifi conflict, i think you should also drop Abit an e-mail... I think you need another card. After all, they're cheap.
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R, abit WiFi PCIe and RAM

    Thanks Th3_uN1Qu3 :)

    It's not the end of the world if I can't use the AirPace, I was mainly wanting to make sure it wasn't a motherboard issue or an issue with the RAM or PSU. Me and PCs don't get on too well and they have a very nasty habbit of failing to work for me :/

    Regards

    Richard_S

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R, abit WiFi PCIe and RAM

    No problem. If you get any more application freezes/crashes, let us know. You can use the Blend test of Prime95 to test your memory in Windows (the bootable Memtest86+ doesn't always catch all errors), any search engine will give you all needed info.
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R, abit WiFi PCIe and RAM

    So before I noticed a reply from you, MSN crashed. Then I put in a MS into the USB card reader and it froze. Not rebooted or BSOD, just froze. Forced power off, tried MS again, got BSOD. Rebooted, skype crashed, read you email and tried Prime95 using Blend. It failed that there was an error. Tried again, BSOD. Forced power off, Windows did a scandisk, booted up okiay. Ran Prime95 and MSN crashed, so did IE.

    So I guess that'll be a RAM issue then...

    :(

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R, abit WiFi PCIe and RAM

    If the error was "Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4" it's definitely the RAM, i had the same issue. Send 'em back to Corsair.
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R, abit WiFi PCIe and RAM

    Not sure what the issue was, but having removed one of the sticks, it's now happily doing the test.

    I guess that either means iffy RAM or iffy socket. I will try the other stick by itself and then try them both together and see what happens.

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