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Thread: GA-EP45-UD3R and G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK Issues?




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    Default GA-EP45-UD3R and G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK Issues?

    I've been having some real problems getting this newly-built computer going well. This is the third computer I have assembled from parts, but I have never had such trouble with a computer like I have with this one. I bought all the parts new about 3 months ago and assembled them. At first, on a "cold boot," (the computer has not been on for a while), the system would hang just after the "Verifying DMA Pool" part of the POST, just before turning the Startup over to Windows. I could hit the reset button, and the system would boot up normally some of the time, or get a BSOD or a black screen error. The error was usually some file was missing or corrupt, or Page_Fault or something along those lines. The error message was never consistant. After much hassle with Newegg, I took the computer to a local repair shop. They tested everything and said it was the Motherboard causing an issue. I RMAed the board to Gigabyte, who said they repaired it and sent it back.

    I got the board back and installed everything again. Now, on a cold boot, it would not hang at the Verifying DMA Pool (well, it did once, but not like before); I could get into the part where Windows starts up. From there (before the "ta-da"), however, it would BSOD or Black Screen, with a variety of erro messages. If I hit the reset button, it would start up normally. At first, the issues were happening everytime the computer was started from a cold boot, but eventually it would happen 1 out of 3 or 1 out of every 4 times. Recently, it started getting a BSOD in Windows consistantly. When this would happen, the onboard network card would not initalize, and shortly thereafter the BSOD with a consistant System_Service_Exception. After I reformated and reinstalled Windows I have not seen that particular problem since.

    Another symptom: If I put the system into Sleep mode, everything turns off. If I leave it for a while, say more than a couple minutes, I cannot get the system to wake up. When I try to wake it, the lights turn on and the fans run hard for a couple seconds, and then shut off, then run again. This repeats over and over until I pull the plug and
    then restart the computer.

    Things I have done:

    I've run the Western Digital Diagnostic tool, as well as the Windows diagnostic tools and the HD reports no errors.

    I've run Memtest86+ on each stick of RAM separately for long periods of time. No errors are reported.

    I've repaired/remade the boot sector several times, plus reformated and reinstalled everything several times, these make no difference.

    I've had the sticks of RAM in the 1 and 3 slots and in the 2 and 4 slots on the MB, (making sure to keep the colors matched)

    I have the updated drivers for everything from the graphics card to the MB chipset.

    I've bumped up a little the MCH Core and DRAM voltage as you'll see below.

    Interestingly, one time recently when I was testing just one stick of RAM, after I was done I did not put the other stick back in. I then left the computer for the afternoon and it put itself to sleep. When I woke it up later that evening, it woke up fine. This made me think it is something about both sticks being in the MB at the same time, which made me think (along with reading about all the issues with modern MBs and RAM settings) it was something to do with my BIOS settings.

    I am at my wits end and am extremely discouraged. I was hoping someone could tell me how I should set up my BIOS settings to make my RAM and MB happy, because I am guessing
    their conflict is the issue. Or maybe they aren't, but I am hoping someone can diagnos my computer issues.

    Thank you all in advance for your help and insights. I really appreciate any help you can give me.

    Ben

    Below are my BIOS settings and hardware:

    Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16 GHz
    Motherboard: GA-EP45-UD3R Rev 1.1, using the latest f8 bios
    Ram: G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK ddr2-1066 PC2-8500 2048x2 CL5-5-5-15 2.0-2.1V
    VGA: EVGA GTX 260 core 216 ssc
    PSU: Corsair TX650W
    HD: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB SATA, 32 MB cache
    Operating System: Windows Vista 64 Home Premium

    BIOS info in the form format:

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: [9 x]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: [+0.5]
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.16GHz (333x9.5)

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: [Auto]
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: [ 0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: [ 0ps]

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: [Auto]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: [Auto]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Auto]
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD..........................................: 4 [Auto]
    tWTR..........................................: 4 [Auto]
    tWR..........................................: 13 [Auto]
    tRFC.........................................: 68 [Auto]
    tRTP..........................................: 4 [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) ...........................: 0 [Auto]

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:8 [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: 0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: 0 [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7 [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............: [Auto]
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............: [Auto]
    DDR Write Training.....................: [Auto]

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:8 [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: 0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: 0 [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: 8 [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 7 [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: 9 [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:[Auto]
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:[Auto]

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Load-Line Calibration................: [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore….……….... 1.25000V..........: [Auto]
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V.......: [Auto]
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V.......: [Auto]
    CPU Referen.…………....0.760V.......: [Auto]
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: [1.200V]
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; [Auto]
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: [Auto]
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: [Auto]
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: [Auto]
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: [2.080V]
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: [Auto]
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: [Auto]
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: [Auto]

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Enabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Enabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Enabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3R and G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK Issues?

    I believe I have the same RAM as you (8 Gigs though). I have the UD3P version of the board. Please don't take this as condescending, but have you tried reseating the RAM? I had similar issues, and thought perhaps I had a bad stick or 2 out of the 3 sets I bought. After much hair pulling and consternation, I took out all of the sticks and read the serial numbers on the stick's label and reinserted each one in numerical sequence in slots 1 and 3 then 2 and 4 (check your manual, don't go by color alone). I paid particular attention to pushing the sticks in on the edges protruding from the heatsinks (hurt like hell after 4!) and listening/feeling the click as it seated, not assuming they were seated when the retainer clips locked in.
    Amazingly enough, this basic thing solved the problem. Apparently the heatsink edges were hitting the tops of the DIMM slots, and the heatsink retainer clips were moving just enough to let the DIMM slot clips engage while not being fully seated. Honestly, I did feel like I was going to crack the MB PCB I put so much pressure on...but it worked!
    I hope it helps. The fact that one worked from hibernation tells me it's one bad stick, a bad slot, or it's not seated. Your settings appear (to me) to be pretty much stock for the RAM you're using.
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    GA-EP45-UD3P V1.1 F9l BIOS
    G.SKILL 8GB (4 x 2GB sticks) (PC2 8500) @ 1069
    C2D E8500 @ 3.6 OC (Outer Marker Settings)
    Scythe Ninja CPU Cooler
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3R and G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK Issues?

    I think I have them seated correctly, as I've put them in and out several times, making sure they click in solid; they show up as a total of 4 GB; and I just checked and they seem to be in as far as they will go. But it is a good thing to check.

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3R and G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK Issues?

    S3 sleep issued are not fully worked out yet for the UD3 models, so I would leave that alone (Or not expect it to work properly overclocked) until you see a BIOS update that mentions it is fixed. It should be OK at stock settings, but I am not so sure about that so don't quote me on it

    You do flash properly correct (load optimized/save and apply/reboot back to BIOS to make changes)? Just checking to be sure

    As for the rest of your issues, all sounds like settings to me. Try these and see how you get along. These are ONLY for stock, no overclocking in mind. If you plan to overclock later several things need to be changed and MANY Auto's must be changed as well >>>

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: [9 x]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: [+0.5]
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.16GHz (333x9.5)

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: [100]
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: [ 0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: [ 0ps]

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo] << Here is likely part of your issue, set to STANDARD

    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: [Auto] << Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: [Auto] <<< 3.20B
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD..........................................: 4 [Auto]
    tWTR..........................................: 4 [Auto]
    tWR..........................................: 13 [Auto]
    tRFC.........................................: 68 [Auto] << Set to 54-62 (What you see in the BIOS is NOT What you get in windows always, so don't think it is ok just because you see a certain value shown)

    tRTP..........................................: 4 [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) ...........................: 0 [Auto] << Set 2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................ 1066 (Can be set last)

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:8 [Auto] << Set 9 for now
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: 0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: 0 [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7 [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............: [Auto]
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............: [Auto]
    DDR Write Training.....................: [Auto]

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:8 [Auto] << Set 9 for now
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: 0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: 0 [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: 8 [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 7 [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: 9 [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:[Auto]
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:[Auto]

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Load-Line Calibration................: [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore….……….... 1.25000V..........: [Auto]
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V.......: [Auto]
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V.......: [Auto]
    CPU Referen.…………....0.760V.......: [Auto]

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: [1.200V] << Try 1.24 (1.2-1.3 suggested normal area, also try 1.05 if you still have issues)
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; [Auto]
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: [Auto]
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: [Auto] << Set 1.55
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: [Auto] << Set 1.14-1.2
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: [2.080V] << Set 2.1-2.14 (it is less then what you set, so 2.08 may only be 2.04 or so)
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: [Auto]
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: [Auto]
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: [Auto]

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Enabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Enabled] << Disable for now, unless you use Vmware/Virtual PC

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Enabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB << Disable for now to rule this out as any part of your issue

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3R and G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK Issues?

    I have the same ram but I have a different problem.
    Ran memtest for 3 hours with mem at 1066 @ 2.08 Volts and they are very hot to touch.
    Contacted Gskill but not much help. What bios settings need to be set to run these at 800 @1.8 volts ? Note that it fired up for the 1ST time at 1066 and 2.08 volts !

    Processor: CPU INTEL|C2D E8400 3.00G 775 45N R
    Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3R
    RAM: Gskill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK ddr2-1066 PC2-8500 2048x2 CL5-5-5-15 2.0-2.1V
    Graphics Card: SAPPHIRE 100248L Radeon HD 3850 512MB
    Harddrive: W.D. Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB- OEM
    CDROM: LG 22X DVD±R DVD SATA GH22NS30 - OEM
    Operating System: MS WIN VISTA HM PREM SP1 32BIT- Retail
    Heatsink: MASSCOOL 8WA741 92mm CPU Cooler
    Case: Antec Three Hundred
    Power Supply: Rosewill RG630-2 630W ATX12V v2.3
    Built on 4/03/09

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) EP45-UD3R Stock Bios
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: [9 x]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: [+0]
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.00 GHz (333x9)

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: [Auto]
    C.I.A.2 ......................................: [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control ………… [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: [ 0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)....................: [ 0ps]

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo]

    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: [Auto]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: [Auto]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Auto]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................: 5 [Auto]
    tRCD .........................................: 5 [Auto]
    tRP'...........................................: 5 [Auto]
    tRAS.........................................: 15 [Auto]

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................: 4 [Auto]
    tWTR..........................................: 4 [Auto]
    tWR..........................................: 13 [Auto]
    tRFC.........................................: 68 [Auto]
    tRTP..........................................: 4 [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) ..................: 0 [Auto]

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................:

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................: 6 [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: 0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: 0 [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: 8 [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: 8 [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)....................:7 [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: 9 [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............: [Auto]
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............: [Auto]
    DDR Write Training.........................: [Auto]

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value..........................:6 [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment....................:0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment....................:0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..................:0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment...................:0 [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: 8 [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)....................:8 [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 7 [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: 9 [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control..................: [Auto]
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control..................: [Auto]
    [Auto]
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Load-Line Calibration..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore….……….... 1.25000V.....: 1.25000V [Auto]
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V.......: 1.200V [Auto]
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V.......: 1.500V [Auto]
    CPU Referen.…………....0.760V.......: 0.760V [Auto]

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.100V [Auto]
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........: 0.760V [Auto]
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: 0.900V [Auto]
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: 1.500V [Auto]
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: 1.100V [Auto]
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 1.800V [Auto](2.080V real)
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: 0.900V [Auto]
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: 0.900V [Auto]
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: 0.900V [Auto]

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Enabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Enabled]

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3R and G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK Issues?

    Try downgrading your bios to Version f6 and do a load CMOS default after bios update, and a Clear DMI data pool. That did the trick for me. I started bsoding right after I upgraded the bios to f7 and higher.

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3R and G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK Issues?

    Thanks I had the same problem. Solved now.

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3R and G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK Issues?

    I don't mean to necro an old thread, but I just wanted to let everyone know how things are going.

    I tried all the settings as originally suggested by Lsdmeasap. They made the problem better (only black screen error) and less frequent, but it still happened a few times a week and I still could not use the Sleep feature. However, I re-read Lsdmeasap's post and adjusted the MCH core lower, to 1.05, and bumped the DRAM voltage up .02 to 2.14. Everything works great now, and I have not had any issues at all for more than a week! Even the Sleep setting works.

    I am very happy with my computer now, and I really appreciate all the help I received here. Thank you again, Lsdmeasap.

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3R and G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK Issues?

    Nice to hear back from you and that things are well!

    If you do have further issues sometime please post your settings you are using that fail and I will advise back. I can also help more if you need more advice on tweaking things for better performance.

    Glad to see you are up and running smoothly!

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