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    Default New Build Crashes During Games

    It's weird, my new build only crashes when I try to play games. I've tried two games so far (S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl and Rainbow Six Vegas 2). For both games I downloaded and installed the latest patches.

    The last three times I tried to load Rainbow six I got an error message "General Protection Fault! history: (blank)"," and the next two times I tried to launch the game I got BSOD before launch. One of the BSOD said "PFN_List_Corrupt."

    I did a search before posting this. There were some threads with similar titles but nothing specific that I could take away. The consensus from what I read was that it was either bad memory or a driver issue. Here are my specs:

    OS: Vista 64-bit
    mobo: Gigabyte EP45-UD3P
    processor: Intel Q9400
    fan/heatsink: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
    video card: EVGA GTS 250
    ram: G.Skill 8GB DDR2-1066 (4x2GB)
    psu: Antec 850 Watt TruePower Quattro

    I haven't overclocked anything yet. I downloaded the latest nvidia driver for the video card. I updated the bios to F8 (crashes were both before and after the bios update). I just realized I haven't installed Service Pack 1. I'm doing that right now but I doubt that will solve my problem. I'll post back. Any ideas?

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    Default Re: New Build Crashes During Games

    Is the error the same for both games? Just wondering if it is a x64 specific driver issue per game or just different driver error for each game?

    Can you give me a link to the ram you are using, and then give me your full settings you are using in the BIOS. With 8GB you need to make some changes for sure, if you have not then that could be the cause or at least part of it.

    You do have the latest Intel Chipset drivers installed as well correct? If not, please install those as well >>>
    Download Locations


    This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................
    tRCD .........................................
    tRP'...........................................
    tRAS..........................................
    
    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first.  Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................
    tWTR..........................................
    tWR............................................
    tRFC...........................................
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:Auto if not overclocking, if you are overclocking please do find and set your own voltages
    
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much.  Optimal range for overclock would be 1.2-1.5 depending on Vcore, try to keep at least .1 under vcore.  Auto is fine if not overclocking
    
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much.  Optimal range for overclock would be 1.5-1.65.  Auto is fine if not overclocking
    
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: New Build Crashes During Games

    Thanks for the help!. Below I plugged in every one of my settings into the template. Let me know if you need more info or you have any suggestions.

    Both games crash, but now I can't load Rainbow Six. I can still load Stalker, but it crashes after a half hour or so. This is after I installed service pack 1, btw. The weird thing is, I haven't had any crashes when I'm not playing these games.

    As for the Intel Chipset drivers, I did not know about this. I thought that was part of the mobo or bios or something. Is the link you gave me specific to my processor? I couldn't tell. I have the Intel Q9400. Thanks Again!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Is the error the same for both games? Just wondering if it is a x64 specific driver issue per game or just different driver error for each game?

    Can you give me a link to the ram you are using, and then give me your full settings you are using in the BIOS. With 8GB you need to make some changes for sure, if you have not then that could be the cause or at least part of it.

    You do have the latest Intel Chipset drivers installed as well correct? If not, please install those as well >>>
    Download Locations


    This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: +0.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.66 GHz (333x8)
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Disabled] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: [Auto]
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800 mV
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900 mV
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0ps
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: [Auto]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: [Auto]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Auto]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................ Auto
    tRCD ......................................... Auto
    tRP'........................................... Auto
    tRAS.......................................... Auto
    
    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first.  Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD........................................... 4 Auto
    tWTR.......................................... 4 Auto
    tWR............................................ 13 Auto
    tRFC........................................... 68 Auto
    tRTP........................................... 4 Auto
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 0 Auto
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................: 9 Auto
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: 0 Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................: 0 Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: 0 Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: 0 Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: 8 Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: 8 Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 8 Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: 9 Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    DDR Write Training..........................: Auto
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: 9 Auto
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: 0 Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................: 0 Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: 0 Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: 0 Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: 8 Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: 8 Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 8 Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: 9 Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    DDR Write Training..........................: Auto
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    
    CPU
    Load-Line Calibration....................: [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore….………... .1.21250V.......: [Auto]
    CPU Termination…........1.200V.......: [Auto]
    CPU PLL…………………......1.500V.......: [Auto]
    CPU Referen.……….….....0.755V.......: [Auto]
    CPU Reference2………....0.800V.......: not listed on mine
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: [Auto]
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........: [Auto]
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: [Auto]
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: [Auto]
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: [Auto]
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: [Auto]
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: [Auto]
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: [Auto]
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: [Auto]
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Enabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: Disabled
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Enabled]
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............USB options are not worded like this on mine. I do have USB Storage Function...it's Enabled

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    Default Re: New Build Crashes During Games

    That link for Intel Chipset Drivers is 32/64 bit Multi OS, so yes you just download and install. No CPU Specific version or anything like that

    What you need to do is test your ram with Memtest at stock settings, one stick at a time first to be sure you do not have a faulty stick >>
    Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool

    8GB is very hard to get to 1066, so this may be the issue at hand. If you continue to have issues you will need to underclock the ram

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: +0.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.66 GHz (333x8)


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: [100]

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800 mV
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900 mV
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0ps


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: [Auto] << Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: [Auto] << 3.20B = 1066Mhz (2.40B = 800Mhz)
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Auto] << Manual

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................ 6
    tRCD ......................................... 6
    tRP'........................................... 6
    tRAS.......................................... 18/20

    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD........................................... 3-5
    tWTR.......................................... 3-6
    tWR............................................ 6-10
    tRFC........................................... 72-82
    tRTP........................................... 4-6
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................1066

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................: 9 Auto <<< Set 10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: 0 Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................: 0 Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: 0 Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: 0 Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: 8 Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: 8 Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 8 Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: 9 Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    DDR Write Training..........................: Auto

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: 9 Auto << Set 10
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: 0 Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................: 0 Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: 0 Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: 0 Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: 8 Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: 8 Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: 8 Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: 9 Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    DDR Write Training..........................: Auto

    Motherboard Voltage Control

    CPU
    Load-Line Calibration....................: [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore….………... .1.21250V.......: [Auto]
    CPU Termination…........1.200V.......: [Auto] << Set 1.2-1.225
    CPU PLL…………………......1.500V.......: [Auto] << Set 1.45-1.5 for non overclock
    CPU Referen.……….….....0.755V.......: [Auto]


    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: [Auto] << Set 1.24-1.35
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........: [Auto]
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: [Auto]
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: [Auto] << Set 1.55
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: [Auto] << Set 1.14-1.2

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: [Auto] << Your ram is rated at 2.0V, with 8GB you may need to set 2.1-2.2. I advise starting at 2.1V but be sure it is 2.1V by setting and rebooting to check the PC Health section as it may be less and you may need to set 2.12 for example to get 2.1V
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: [Auto]
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: [Auto]
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: [Auto]

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Enabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: Disabled
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Enabled] << Disable if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............USB options are not worded like this on mine. I do have USB Storage Function...it's Enabled << Disable for now to rule this out as a issue

    That would be all set only the Ram voltage, main timings, and speed, then put performance enhance on standard and test one at a time in slot one.

    Here would be my suggestions for your settings you gave above for both sticks >>
    Last edited by Lsdmeasap; 04-07-2009 at 06:10 PM.

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    Default Nope

    I tried all of your recommendations, I downloaded the Intel thing and now my computer crashed and I wasn't even playing a game (first time). It seams like things are getting worse, not better. Vista is booting up way slower then it did at first.

    The only thing left for me to do is to test the ram, one stick at a time using memtest. I will do the first stick tonight while I'm sleeping. With four sticks this will take awhile. This is very frustrating. Until all the ram has been tested, I'm going to try to cut back to 4 GB to see if I get lucky and that helps. I figure, if one stick is bad, I have a 50% chance that I eliminated the problem by only running 4 GB :) Once all 4 sticks have been tested (probably by this weekend), I will update this thread. Thanks.

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    Default Forgot To Try One Thing

    I forgot to try one thing you mentioned. I forgot to try underclocking the ram. It is booting up right now at 800 instead of 1066. Let's see...

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    Default Re: New Build Crashes During Games

    Underclocking to 800 didn't work! Took out ram from slots 2 and 4, didn't work! Then I replaced the ram from slots 1 and 3 with the ram I previously removed from slots 2 and 4, didn't work! Rainbow Six won't load no matter what I do. All I get is the error message "General Protection Fault!" followed by "history: (blank)" wtf? I even uninstalled and reinstalled Rainbow Six and that didn't help. Why is nothing working?

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    Default Grasping At Straws

    OK, I realize I'm grasping at straws here, but my EVGA video card has two DVI connectors. In one, I have my DVI monitor connected. In the other, I have a DVI to VGA adapter connected, but there is no monitor connected to it. Can a video adapter cause problems if it is connected to the computer but not connected to a monitor? My guess is no, it does not matter? Either way just disconnected it. I would still like to know the answer. Thanks!

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