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    Default Ex58-DS4 + i7920 : a few problems

    Hello,

    I bought a Gigabyte EX-58 DS4 motherboard a few weeks ago and I encounter the following problems :

    1. In the F6c bios, only 4 GB are displayed, whereas in CPUZ or Everest, 6 GB are displayed. I own 6 Gb so that the bios shows the wrong information.

    2. My PC had no errors in Prime 95 blend after 3 h 23 mins last week and today, with the same bios parameters, Prime 95 blend fails within a few seconds. But by increasing the memory voltage from 1.72 to 1.74 V, P95 is stable again. The voltages are not high and I cared about the 0.5 V difference between the memory contoller and the RAM. My voltages are the following : CPU=1.475 V, QPI/VTT=1.335 V, CPU PLL=1.84 V, PCIE=1.5 V, QPI PLL=1.2 V, IOH core= 1.3 V, ICH I/O=1.35 V, ICH core= 1.74 V and all other voltages= 0.87 V. The RAM is cooled by 2 80 mm fans and the CPU, by a single stage phase cooler (CPU temperature always under 0C). So why is my PC no longer stable with 1.72 V on the RAM ?

    3. Randomly, the internet connection is unavailable during a few seconds : quite often, when I want connect to any website, it is unreachable. I press the F5 key to refresh, a few seconds later and I can connect to it. I tested 2 browsers : Opera 9.6 and Internet Explorer, in XP and Vista. On another PC, connected to the same ADSL modem, I don't encounter this problem. It seems that the Realtek 8111D Ethernet controller is responsible for that. Any idea to solve it ?

    Thanks.
    i7 920@4599 Mhz, Gigabyte EX-58 DS4 bios F6c, 3x2 GB OCZ 1333 7-7-7-20, GTX280, 3x500 GB HDD, Corsair TX 750 W

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    Default Re: Ex58-DS4 + i7920 : a few problems

    What do you see in TaskManager for Total Memory? Did you check for bent pins before you installed the CPU? Do you see N/A on any of the 3 channels in MIT Section for ram timings?

    Could just also be a BIOS bug as well. I have noticed at certain settings one channel of mine will disable like it is not there, this only happens at crazy clocks though such as 1900Mhz with 212+ Blck. I have also noticed it a few times myself at normal settings in past BIOS's, a reboot or two usually corrected it.

    Try the Latest RealTek Driver for your LAN >>>
    Realtek

    You do have the Latest Intel Chipset Drivers installed correct, if not here >>
    Download Locations


    I would need to see your Full settings to better advise you on why you may not be stable on lower voltages, so please post them if you would like me to look and see if I see anything that may be causing issues for you >>>

    This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

    Code:
    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [20x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled]
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]
    
    
    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
    Uncore Frequency ..........................  (Always 2x memory Multi or 2x +1)
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]
    
    
    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]
    
    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]
    
    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    
    
    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [AUTO]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Manual]
    
    Channel A + B + C
    
    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ......................
    tRCD .......................................
    tRP .........................................
    tRAS .......................................
    
    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................  (Should be = tRAS + tRP or above for stability)
    tRRD .......................................
    tWTR ......................................
    tWR ........................................
    tWTP .......................................
    tWL ........................................   (tWTP Must = tWR + tWL + 4)
    tRFC .......................................
    tRTP .......................................
    tFAW ......................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ................
    
    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ...................
    
    
    
    Advanced Voltage Control:
    
    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore ...............................
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............
    CPU PLL 1.800v .......................
    
    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ...........................
    QPI PLL 1.100v .......................
    IOH Core 1.100v .....................
    ICH I/O 1.500v .......................
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]

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    Default Re: Ex58-DS4 + i7920 : a few problems

    What do you see in TaskManager for Total Memory? 4093 MB

    Did you check for bent pins before you installed the CPU? Yes, I checked it : no bent pins.

    Do you see N/A on any of the 3 channels in MIT Section for ram timings? for channel B and C, no N/A displayed. For channel A, only cas equals 8, every other timing is N/A.

    Could just also be a BIOS bug as well. I have noticed at certain settings one channel of mine will disable like it is not there, this only happens at crazy clocks though such as 1900Mhz with 212+ Blck. I have also noticed it a few times myself at normal settings in past BIOS's, a reboot or two usually corrected it.
    I flashed the latest bios F6c because the previous one had the same problem, only 4096 MB displayed. And I cleared CMOS a few times.


    Try the Latest RealTek Driver for your LAN >>>
    Realtek
    On the Realtek website, only datasheet is downloadable for 8111D controller. The current driver was downloaded from the Gigabyte website.

    You do have the Latest Intel Chipset Drivers installed correct, if not here >>
    Download Locations
    Yes, i have the latest one : inf_9.1.0.1012

    I would need to see your Full settings to better advise you on why you may not be stable on lower voltages, so please post them if you would like me to look and see if I see anything that may be causing issues for you >>>

    This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

    [code]Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [20x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [Disabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Disabled]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Disabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Disabled]
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Disabled]


    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
    Uncore Frequency .......................... x16
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................215
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]

    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[700mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [700mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [turbo]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled] not available in the bios
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [8]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Expert]

    Channel A + B + C

    Channel A Timing Settings:

    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ......................8
    tRCD .......................................8
    tRP .........................................8
    tRAS .......................................24

    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................ Auto
    tRRD .......................................Auto
    tWTR ......................................Auto
    tWR ........................................Auto
    tWTP .......................................Auto
    tWL ........................................ Auto
    tRFC .......................................Auto
    tRTP .......................................Auto
    tFAW ......................................Auto
    Command Rate (CMD) ................1

    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ...................Auto



    Advanced Voltage Control:

    CPU

    Load Line Calibration ................. [Enabled]
    CPU Vcore ...............................1.475
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............1.335
    CPU PLL 1.800v .......................1.84

    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ...........................1.5
    QPI PLL 1.100v .......................1.2
    IOH Core 1.100v .....................1.3
    ICH I/O 1.500v .......................1.35
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................1.1

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v ..............1.72
    DRAM Termination 0.750v .........0.86
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v............0.86
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v............0.86
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v............0.86

    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v........0.86
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v........0.86
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v........0.86
    i7 920@4599 Mhz, Gigabyte EX-58 DS4 bios F6c, 3x2 GB OCZ 1333 7-7-7-20, GTX280, 3x500 GB HDD, Corsair TX 750 W

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    Default Re: Ex58-DS4 + i7920 : a few problems

    Sorry, I linked you to the wrong Drivers anyway at RealTek!! Here is the LAN Driver page for your board n 6.218.0317.2009 >>
    Realtek

    If you have issues after trying all three FTP's there at RealTek, here is the vista 32/64 driver hosted at another site >>>
    http://www.station-drivers.com/telec...ivers.com).exe

    The latest Intel INF Driver package is 9.0.0.1008 I linked above, gigabyte site is one version behind. If that is the one that came on your CD, or if you found that on the web is a Beta Package and is not suggested if you are having issues

    Have you tried moving your memory around in the slots? Have you cleaned the traces with alcohol or similar (The gold part of the ram) as any dust or grease, ect can cause a faulty connection.

    I can see your issues. Please start all over, load optimized defaults and save and apply and reboot BACK to the BIOS and make your SATA/Disk changes all again. Then start your overclock all over. Using fail safe is not suggested at all, especially to build a overclock off of, there is many visible and invisible settings that will be set incorrectly

    I suggest you do that, and start over. You will likely find things go alot smoother, if you still need help let me know and I will advise.

    I can say right now the 20 CPU multi is terrible, please use 19 and turbo on or use 21 with turbo off

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    Default Re: Ex58-DS4 + i7920 : a few problems

    Thank you for the Realtek controller download link : now, my internet connection seems to work better.

    For the 4096 MB RAM and the overclocking, I will follow your advice. I will post again in this thread afterwards.
    i7 920@4599 Mhz, Gigabyte EX-58 DS4 bios F6c, 3x2 GB OCZ 1333 7-7-7-20, GTX280, 3x500 GB HDD, Corsair TX 750 W

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    Default Re: Ex58-DS4 + i7920 : a few problems

    Nice to hear your LAN is working better!

    Can you please also do a few things for me? Ca you link your ram or give me the model # of course.

    If you are still only seeing 4GB and N/A on one of the channels in the BIOS, please underclock your ram using the x6 multi or bring your Blck back down to 190 or so and see if the issue still persists. If it does, please move different ram into the channel that says N/A in the BIOS and reboot and see if that same channel still is the one that says N/A

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    Default Re: Ex58-DS4 + i7920 : a few problems

    I applied optimized defaults in the bios, rebooted : in the bios and in the Vista x64 task manager, 4093 MB is still displayed. Of course, no overclocking is applied.

    Then, I removed the 3 RAM DIMMs, cleaned them with alcohol, and replaced them : the DIMM in the memory socket number 1 went to the number 2, the one in the number 2 went to the 3 and the 3 to the 1.

    After turning on the PC, I checked in the bios : always 4096 MB displayed and the same channel A displays N/A, channel B and C show the timings. Consequently, the RAM is not faulty. And in the task manager, 4093 MB are displayed. The parameters are always the optimized dafaults, no overclocking is applied.

    The RAM model : OCZ3P1333LV6GK
    i7 920@4599 Mhz, Gigabyte EX-58 DS4 bios F6c, 3x2 GB OCZ 1333 7-7-7-20, GTX280, 3x500 GB HDD, Corsair TX 750 W

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    Default Re: Ex58-DS4 + i7920 : a few problems

    I have just tested the RAM bandwidth with Sisoft Sandra v2009.1.15.72 : I obtain about 16.9 Go/s (RAM @ 1333 Mhz 7-7-7-20, i7920 @ 2660 Mhz).

    In this review, with the same RAM and the same CPU, the reviewer obtains around 16.5 GB/s in dual channel and 21.4 GB/s in triple channel : OCZ DDR3 PC3-10666 Platinum Low-Voltage Triple Channel. Moreover, in Sisoft Sandra, 3x1 GB DDR3-8500 7-7-7 has a better bandwidth than mine.

    Consequently, it seems that my RAM is in dual channel whereas it should be in triple channel. This symptom is probably related to the fact that the channel A shows N/A for nearly every timing and that I have only 4096 MB displayed.

    I tested with another RAM kit : 1 GB Kingston PC3-8500 : KVR1066D3N7/1G. It is in the DS-4 qualified vendor list. In the memory socket number 1 : the PC does not boot. In the number 3, boot and 1024 MB are detected in the bios.

    I cleaned the memory socket number 1 with alcohol but same result. It seems that my motherboard is faulty. To be sure, could someone test with the same motherboard ?
    Last edited by passionne; 04-10-2009 at 07:53 PM.
    i7 920@4599 Mhz, Gigabyte EX-58 DS4 bios F6c, 3x2 GB OCZ 1333 7-7-7-20, GTX280, 3x500 GB HDD, Corsair TX 750 W

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