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    Exclamation Near the end of my rope!

    Hello,

    I am still having an issue with my new build, specs in sig.

    Following this thread,

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/look...45-ud3p-31027/

    I have since RMA'ed the motherboard, and RMA'ed the processor.

    The new motherboard (same model and revision) still will not post on a cold boot. I have to reboot in order for the display to initialize.

    Things I have tried.

    1) Different video card = same result
    2) Different ram = same result
    3) Different PSU = same reuslt
    4) Different CPU = same result
    5) Stock intel cpu cooler = same result
    6) Motherboard out of case and only essential hardware connected = same result (Essentials = motherboard + video card + 1 stick of ram in slot 1 + cpu & cpu cooler + power, setup on a cardboard box so no possible short from case.

    I am running out of options that I am aware of. Is it possible that the parts I have are incompatible? Gigabyte tech support assured me that was not the case but I was less than impressed with the help I got from them. Is there any other test I can try on the motherboard? I don't want to abandon Gigabyte, but it really seems like either a) I received another bad motherboard, or b) this particular model of board has a limited set of compatible hardware.

    Any help is greatly appreciated.
    My Setup

    MB: GA-EP45-UD3P rev 1.1
    BIOS: F7, 1/13/2009
    CPU: Intel E8400 w/ AC Freezer Pro 7
    MEM: G Skill DDR2 1066 PC2-8500 2Gbx2
    GPU: EVGA Gtx 260 Core 216
    PS: Corsair TX 650
    HD: Seagate 500gb
    Case: CM 690
    OS: XP pro SP3

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    Default Re: Near the end of my rope!

    Case - Antec 1200
    Motherboard - Gigabyte EP45-UD3P (Rev 1.1)
    CPU - Core2Duo Wolfdale C0 E8400 3ghz @ 3.83ghz
    CPU Cooler - Zalman 9500 cpu cooler
    Memory - G.Skill DDR2 1066 (2x2GB) 5-5-5-15 @ 2.0V~2.1
    GPU - eVGA 8800gtx superclocked 700/1000
    Sound - XFi Champion Series
    HDD's - WD hddsx4 127gb-500 gb (x2)-600 gb
    ROM - Pioneer DVD rom
    PSU - Corsair 1000 watt
    Bios - F8
    OS - XP Pro SP3 32-bit

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    Default Re: Near the end of my rope!

    Hello,

    I read through your previous thread. Sorry to hear about your troubles. Do you have a PC speaker hooked up to the Motherboard? Are you getting any "beep" codes? If so, what are they?

    I know there are poeple on this board that have your setup, so I don't think it is a hardware incompatibility thing.

    Have you tried re-flashing the BIOS?

    It is a bummer to hear that you are having so many problems....

    I have had absolutley zero with mine.

    Hang in there and good luck.

    -Jason
    i7 3770K @ Stock for now F5 BIOS
    2 X 8 GB DDR3 1600MHz
    2 X 240 GB SATA 3 SSD RAID 0
    Gigabyte Z77X-Up7
    EVGA GTX 680 Classified
    EVGA GTX 285 PhysX

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    Default Re: Near the end of my rope!

    Yes I've looked at that thread, but I'm not trying to overclock, just a clean post. I dont have a case speaker so I dont know about the beep sequence, but when I hook everything up and use normal speakers, windows loads correctly (can hear the xp jingle), it just does not initialize the display until I reboot the system using either the reset button or keyboard commands.

    When the setup is out of the case and only bare essentials are hooked up, the same thing happens. Power up computer and no display until I hit the reset button.

    Bios - currently I have F6 loaded. I tried F7 & F8, same issue.

    Changing Bios settings is frustrating due to the reboot issue. When I exit out of Bios,the computer shuts down and I have to go through the reboot trick to initilize the display.

    I should also reitterate that the 1 stick of ram in the motherboard went through 6 hours of Memtest with 0 errors so I feel the Ram is good.
    My Setup

    MB: GA-EP45-UD3P rev 1.1
    BIOS: F7, 1/13/2009
    CPU: Intel E8400 w/ AC Freezer Pro 7
    MEM: G Skill DDR2 1066 PC2-8500 2Gbx2
    GPU: EVGA Gtx 260 Core 216
    PS: Corsair TX 650
    HD: Seagate 500gb
    Case: CM 690
    OS: XP pro SP3

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    Default Re: Near the end of my rope!

    I would try and get a PC speaker, it could tell you the type or problem you may be having, especially during the cold boot sequence.

    http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=20500
    $2.95

    Gosh, I am not sure what else it could be. Sounds like the MoBo is hosed.

    Good Luck!
    -J
    i7 3770K @ Stock for now F5 BIOS
    2 X 8 GB DDR3 1600MHz
    2 X 240 GB SATA 3 SSD RAID 0
    Gigabyte Z77X-Up7
    EVGA GTX 680 Classified
    EVGA GTX 285 PhysX

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    Default Re: Near the end of my rope!

    New mobo & cpu --> no change
    Faulty memory? Maybe. Check out this thread to see what we've been doing trying to verify where the problem is. It's a very long read! He ran many tests on his system and I ran some tests on my system.

    Can you borrow a set of comparable memory to test with in your system?
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
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    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
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    Default Re: Near the end of my rope!

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    New mobo & cpu --> no change
    Faulty memory? Maybe. Check out this thread to see what we've been doing trying to verify where the problem is. It's a very long read! He ran many tests on his system and I ran some tests on my system.

    Can you borrow a set of comparable memory to test with in your system?
    New mobo did lead to a significant change. Memory slot 1 is now ok but the cold boot - initialize display issue still persists; although in a slightly modified form. Previously I had to hold the reset button down to Post or load windows. Now I just have to restart once. The system runs stable at stock (optimized defaults) settings once I go through the reboot "trick".

    I did test with a different set of memory, different brand and specs, but same problem.
    My Setup

    MB: GA-EP45-UD3P rev 1.1
    BIOS: F7, 1/13/2009
    CPU: Intel E8400 w/ AC Freezer Pro 7
    MEM: G Skill DDR2 1066 PC2-8500 2Gbx2
    GPU: EVGA Gtx 260 Core 216
    PS: Corsair TX 650
    HD: Seagate 500gb
    Case: CM 690
    OS: XP pro SP3

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    Default Re: Near the end of my rope!

    Initial video display is the only issue?
    What brand/type of monitor are you using?
    Video cable type used: DVI? VGA? HDMI+adapter?

    With a DVI/DVI connection my widescreen monitor is slow to update during the post screens. Using a standard VGA cable (with HDMI->VGA adapter) my monitor responds with no screen "lag". I'm using a 7600GT Evga card with dual DVI connections.

    If you boot without doing your reset trick, will the system go into windows and eventually have video output.

    This hardly a fix: Have you tried powering on your monitor several seconds after your intitial boot?
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: Near the end of my rope!

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    Initial video display is the only issue?
    What brand/type of monitor are you using?
    Video cable type used: DVI? VGA? HDMI+adapter?

    With a DVI/DVI connection my widescreen monitor is slow to update during the post screens. Using a standard VGA cable (with HDMI->VGA adapter) my monitor responds with no screen "lag". I'm using a 7600GT Evga card with dual DVI connections.

    If you boot without doing your reset trick, will the system go into windows and eventually have video output.

    This hardly a fix: Have you tried powering on your monitor several seconds after your intitial boot?
    Initial video display is the only issue --> Yes
    Monitor is a Viewsonic VX2235wm using HDMI plug. I tried using the HDMI-> adapter, same problem.

    I tried a Dell LCD monitor, same problem.

    If I boot normally I can hear windows load via PC speakers, the video card exhaust fan runs at maximum and the screen never initializes. The longest I've let it try is 30 minutes.

    Yes I've tried just about every combination of starting the system and turning off/on monitor possible.

    I pulled a case speaker out of an old machine and currently have the setup on a wood table with just the basics plugged in. The beep code on a cold boot sounds like 1 short + 2 very short. It is very difficult to hear. It makes the same sound if I unplug the video card completly so it could be 1 long + 2 short indicating monitor or graphics card error. This beep sequence occurs on every cold boot (or after an F10 from Bios).

    After the reset "trick" I hear 1 solid short indicating successful boot.

    I know this sounds like a relatively minor problem, but I need to get it resolved or my career as a novice computer builder will be short one!

    Thanks again
    My Setup

    MB: GA-EP45-UD3P rev 1.1
    BIOS: F7, 1/13/2009
    CPU: Intel E8400 w/ AC Freezer Pro 7
    MEM: G Skill DDR2 1066 PC2-8500 2Gbx2
    GPU: EVGA Gtx 260 Core 216
    PS: Corsair TX 650
    HD: Seagate 500gb
    Case: CM 690
    OS: XP pro SP3

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    Default Re: Near the end of my rope!

    Relatively minor problem? You betcha.
    Aggravating & PITA? YYYYYYEEEEESSSSSS!!

    I'm out of ideas, hopefully there's a magician on the list that has the answer. Are you listening LSDme?
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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