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Thread: First a DFI Dark P965 problem, now with UD3R




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    Default First a DFI Dark P965 problem, now with UD3R

    I've been running an overclocked e4300 (to 3.0) for about two years on a DFI P965 board without any real problems. Every once in a while, when POSTing from a cold reboot, it would give be continuous long beeps. This could usually be remedied by rebooting again, or at worse, clearing CMOS and trying again. Last week, neither move worked for me.

    I tried switching out power supplies. No difference.

    I figured the DFI P965 finally had a fatal problem, becuase a year earlier the onboard LAN failed and I had to throw in a NIC card.

    SO I bought a EP45-UD3R..... now same POSTing problem --- continuous short beeps.

    I have tried to trouble shoot by doing every permutation of the following:

    1) different power supplies
    2) using only one stick of RAM in any slot
    3) removing all components down to CPU, CPU fan, 1 stick RAM, +/- video card
    4) trying to boot without ANY RAM gives me memory POST error beeps
    5) I've checked all power connections - 24 pin ATX, 4-pin 2v12, power to video card, and no obvious shorts

    6) going back to old board with all combinations of above -- same old POST error


    WHAT should I try next....
    a) is it likely that BOTH RAM sticks died at once (and I'm just swapping in one of two bad sticks)

    b) my e4300 CPU is giving me this problem?

    c) Both power supplies are bad --- all LEDS on the board light up appropriately....

    What to do next???

    Specs:
    e4300 with tuniq tower 120 cooler - trimmed down tabs to fit in UD3R
    Buffalo PC2-6400 CL5 2x1GB
    Sapphire X1950XT 256M
    Power: old: Ultra V Series 500W
    new: OCZ 500SXS

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    Default Re: First a DFI Dark P965 problem, now with UD3R

    Well, yes both ram could have died at the same time. Can you borrow another stick of DDR2 to test with? Continuous Long beeps are indicative of Memory timings or voltages not properly set, so see below about letting me see your settings if possible.

    I see you mention 4Pin ATX 12V, did or do either of the PSU's you have also have a ATX 8 pin? If so, please use that as it could be of help. It may be a non issue with that CPU, but it is best to use since the board offers it for sure

    So does this board boot for you now, or did it ever? If it does boot, will it long enough to get you into the BIOS? If so, please give me your settings >>>

    This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

    CPU = Model #
    Motherboard = Model, Revision #
    BIOS Version =
    Ram = Brand, Model#, Part#, And or Link

    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................
    tRCD .........................................
    tRP'...........................................
    tRAS..........................................
    
    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first.  Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................
    tWTR..........................................
    tWR............................................
    tRFC...........................................
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:Auto if not overclocking, if you are overclocking please do find and set your own voltages
    
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much.  Optimal range for overclock would be 1.2-1.5 depending on Vcore, try to keep at least .1 under vcore.  Auto is fine if not overclocking
    
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much.  Optimal range for overclock would be 1.5-1.65.  Auto is fine if not overclocking
    
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: First a DFI Dark P965 problem, now with UD3R

    With the new UD3R - I've never gotten past beeping on immediate power on ---- so all CMOS settings are default.

    And with the DFI P965 - by now I've cleared the CMOS so settings should be default as well --- same errors on itinial power on.

    Would have loved to have gotten far enough to get to BIOS menu....

    --- Both PSUs have only 4 pin ATX 12V

    ---- It sucks for me.. I have no close computer friends to swap components with, so

    What do you think I should do to troubleshoot?
    SHould I buy a 3rd (better ) PSU?
    A new memory stick?
    A new CPU?
    RMA the new UD3R?

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    Default Re: First a DFI Dark P965 problem, now with UD3R

    Beeps your getting is memory errors, probably nothing wrong with your dfi board.

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    Default Re: First a DFI Dark P965 problem, now with UD3R

    If a memory problem, does it fit that: with the new UD3R I get continuous short beeps, 20 or so, and then the board restarts itself over and over ---- but if I try with no memory installed at all, it gives me the memory beeps codes of long beeps...


    with the old DFI, (well now I forget - I tried so many combinatons in the past few days) - I got the continuous beep with memory, and *i forget* with no memory)

    Thanks --- just trying to minimize the amount of stuff I need to buy (that I don't really want to spend $ on to upgrade just yet - but if I do, want to look forward to when I pull the plug on a new CPU, etc....)

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    Default Re: First a DFI Dark P965 problem, now with UD3R

    The memory just flaked out on you, dont wast your money or time on the rma or new power supply, its memory related. Dont you have a friend or a local shop you can try some different memory. Even walmart sells ddr2 now. ALLEN

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    Default Re: First a DFI Dark P965 problem, now with UD3R

    Both sticks failing at the same time, in the course of normal use? Thats the part that I can't get over.... because of the way I could get past this (previously intermittent ) error (on the DFI) by waiting and just powering up again....

    But I suppose I could always use more memory...

    I just need to get this system up and running ASAP becuase I need to get to some programs on the hard drives, etc.... (Tax time coming up hard and fast)

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    Default Re: First a DFI Dark P965 problem, now with UD3R

    If that was the case your dfi should still boot with the memory installed. Probably was flakey all allong when you started having to reboot it and now is just bad enough not to boot at all. It also could be a bad cpu, but, I seriously doubt thats the case. 90-95% of the time any symptom that your explaining is memory related. If it only happend on one motherboard I would be more suspicious. ALLEN


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    Did you ever try reseating the cpu?
    Last edited by allen41547; 04-15-2009 at 01:13 AM.

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    Default Re: First a DFI Dark P965 problem, now with UD3R

    I have a set of that mushkin memory,one thing I like about mushkin. If you happen to get a bad chip even 4 years later they will upgrade you for a small amount, I went from ddr2-800 to ddr2-1150 for like $25 and that was before the major drop in ddr2 prices. ALLEN

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