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    Default Re: EP45-DS3L rev1.0, E6400, 4x1GB RAM, need overclock help

    I prefer to run Memtest86+ (booting from my cd/dvd) immediately after making moderate bios changes. Passing Memtest does not guarantee that the modified settings will be stable.

    Your E6400 can usually overclock higher (percentage wise) than my E6550, attaining a 60% overclock. My cpu generally is good for a 45 - 50% o/c.

    Practice, practice, practice. Rubbing elbows with more experienced overclockers, reading a lot about about o/c theory and practice, and hands on experience will give you a feel for what will work and what won't.

    The best baseball players are hard pressed to succeed at bat better than one third of the time. Good overclockers have a much higher batting average. I thought that this setup was going to be a piece of cake. I need to look everything over and see if I missed something.

    On of the great virtues of this forum is that there are a lot of good experienced people here. One of them might jump in and have the solution. I'll be back in touch with you shortly.
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    Default Re: EP45-DS3L rev1.0, E6400, 4x1GB RAM, need overclock help

    Can you please tell me the the exact model # on your memory sticker, or give me a link to where you bought it? The link you provide covers three kits so I am not sure which you have or if you even have the correct page linked.

    Did you read the p35 sticky? I know it was not meant for this board but it will provide you with some knowledge of some of the "how and why's" of overclocking that you are asking about

    Some models just do not have all the settings that other do. As for your use of Control + F1, some boards/BIOS only have a few hidden settings (PnP PCI Page) the rest are already visible so there is no need for the hotkey. But just to be sure, in case there is, Control + F1 must be pressed on the MAIN page of the BIOS and then the screen will flash. Then you would go into a respective section to look for any hidden setting

    To post more then one image you need to upload it to a photo hosting site such as Photobucket or ImageShack, I use TinyPic myself.

    Then you need the Direct Link (URL) of the image, copy that here inbetween a image tag. This image shows you the direct image link (URL) at TinyPic, at Imageshack it is the top one after your upload >>>



    This is an image tag, put the url into that >>>

    [img]Direct URL of Image Goes Here[/img]

    Then you may post up to 10 images at once

    Without knowing your exact ram I cannot offer the best or full advice, but I can advise these changes for now from the info and image you posted >>>

    We are starting from Optimized Defaults here correct? And not Fail Safe settings? Hope so!!

    Sounds like you are moving right along, these would just be general suggested optimal settings with nothing specific in mind as I need your ram link and I need to know what you want to push to if anything. If you do not wish to go further let me know and I can help you tighten things down


    MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.66 GHz (333)

    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: [0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: [0ps]


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [Standard]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]

    System Memory Multiplier ..............: [2.40B]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    CAS Latency Time........................5 [5]
    tRCD .........................................5 [5]
    tRP'...........................................5 [5]
    tRAS..........................................18 [15]

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD.........................................3-4
    tWTR........................................3-6
    tWR..........................................4-8
    tRFC.........................................52-62 (Set high now if you are having issues, maybe 58)
    tRTP.........................................3-5
    Command Rate........................... 2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................ << Set 800/1066 (Both should work and 1066 may be best, if you have issues set 800)

    Channel A Timing Settings [Enter]

    Static tRead Value........................6-10
    tRD Phase 0 Adjustment.................0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase 1 Adjustment.................0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase 2 Adjustment.................0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase 3 Adjustment.................0 [Auto]

    Trd3rd (Different Rank)..................6 [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)..................6 [Auto]
    Twr2rd (Different Rank).................5 [Auto]
    Trd2wr (Same/Different Rank).........8 [Auto]

    DIMM1 Clock Skew Control..............[Auto]
    DIMM2 Clock Skew Control..............[Auto]
    DDR Write Training.........................[Auto]

    Channel A Driving Settings [Enter]

    Driving Strengths Profile.................[Auto]
    Data Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]

    Driving Strengths Profile.................[Auto] Listed above, sorry
    Data Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]

    Channel B Timing Settings [Enter]

    Static tRead Value........................6-10
    tRD Phase 0 Adjustment.................0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase 1 Adjustment.................0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase 2 Adjustment.................0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase 3 Adjustment.................0 [Auto]

    Trd3rd (Different Rank)..................6 [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)..................6 [Auto]
    Twr2rd (Different Rank).................5 [Auto]
    Trd2wr (Same/Different Rank).........8 [Auto]

    DIMM1 Clock Skew Control..............[Auto]
    DIMM2 Clock Skew Control..............[Auto]
    DDR Write Training.........................[Auto]

    Channel B Driving Settings [Enter]

    Driving Strengths Profile.................[Auto] Listed above, sorry
    Data Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]

    Driving Strengths Profile.................[Auto]
    Data Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]


    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... [Manual]
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….………..... 1.3250.......: [1.32500V] << More can be applied for sure if needed. 1.325-1.5

    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V.......: [1.200V] << 125-1.45

    CPU PLL…………………....1.550V.......: [1.550V]

    CPU Referen.…………....0.85V.......: [Auto]

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: [1.100V] << For 4x1GB you should need 1.2-1.28 for stability (1.20-1.24 being the norm)
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........: [Auto]
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: [1.550V]

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: [1.900V] << 1.9-1.95 (? Need ram link)

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    Default Re: EP45-DS3L rev1.0, E6400, 4x1GB RAM, need overclock help

    Alrighty first things first (and I have to do a lot of reading I think to even remotely start to understand how all this voltage stuff works. I am somewhat okay with all the fsb, multiplier and even the ram timings stuff but voltage ...no idea).

    RAM: Geil 1GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL-5-5-5-15 GX22GB6400DC 1.8V

    We are in fact starting from beyond optimised settings.
    I flashed my bios to F10. Then I loaded optimised defaults (props to ProfJim). Then I already overclocked to 2.66GHz (also thanks to ProfJim) and ran both Memtest from CD with 6 passes no errors, and let Orthos run overnight with blend settings and coretemp, realtemp and easytunes. Temperature around 60-65 degrees (closed case, readjusted fan today).

    The settings below are the ones that are currently working stable:

    MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.66 GHz (333)

    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: [333] Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: [100]

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: [800mV]
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: [0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: [0ps]


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [Standard]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]

    System Memory Multiplier ..............: [2.40 B]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    CAS Latency Time........................5 [5]
    tRCD .........................................5 [5]
    tRP'...........................................5 [5]
    tRAS..........................................18 [15]

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD.........................................3 [3]
    tWTR........................................3 [3]
    tWR..........................................6 [6]
    tRFC.........................................52 [52]
    tRTP.........................................3 [3]
    Command Rate............................0 [2]

    Channel A Timing Settings [Enter]

    Static tRead Value........................7 [10]
    tRD Phase 0 Adjustment.................0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase 1 Adjustment.................0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase 2 Adjustment.................0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase 3 Adjustment.................0 [Auto]

    Trd3rd (Different Rank)..................6 [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)..................6 [Auto]
    Twr2rd (Different Rank).................5 [Auto]
    Trd2wr (Same/Different Rank).........8 [Auto]

    DIMM1 Clock Skew Control..............[Auto]
    DIMM2 Clock Skew Control..............[Auto]
    DDR Write Training.........................[Auto]

    Channel A Driving Settings [Enter]

    Driving Strengths Profile.................[1066]
    Data Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]

    Data Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]

    Channel B Timing Settings [Enter]

    Static tRead Value........................7 [10]
    tRD Phase 0 Adjustment.................0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase 1 Adjustment.................0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase 2 Adjustment.................0 [Auto]
    tRD Phase 3 Adjustment.................0 [Auto]

    Trd3rd (Different Rank)..................6 [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)..................6 [Auto]
    Twr2rd (Different Rank).................5 [Auto]
    Trd2wr (Same/Different Rank).........8 [Auto]

    DIMM1 Clock Skew Control..............[Auto]
    DIMM2 Clock Skew Control..............[Auto]
    DDR Write Training.........................[Auto]

    Channel B Driving Settings [Enter]

    Driving Strengths Profile.................[1066]
    Data Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]

    Data Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Cmd Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]
    Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...............[Auto]


    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... [Manual]
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….………..... 1.3250.......: [1.32500V]

    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V.......: [1.200V]

    CPU PLL…………………....1.550V.......: [1.550V]

    CPU Referen.…………....0.85V.......: [Auto]

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: [1.100V]
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........: [Auto]
    ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: [1.550V]

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: [1.900V]

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled]


    I will set the advanced timing controls and driving strengths profiles as per your suggestion.

    Ideally, I would like to go to 3.2 GHz and beyond if possible, if my current cooling allows me to.

    Thanks again for all the help :3

    *edited for changes to advanced timing control static tread values and driving strenghts profiles.
    Last edited by Thorhall; 04-18-2009 at 07:23 PM.
    CPU: E6400 @ 2.66
    Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B
    Mobo: GA EP54-DS3L (rev 1.0) ~ Bios: F10
    RAM: 4x1GB Geil PC2-6400 DDR2-800 Dual Channel GX22GB6400DC @ 5-5-5-15
    Case: Gigabyte 3D Aurora
    PSU: CoolerMaster RP-600-PCAR
    HDD: WD2500AAKS
    Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 940BW
    Speakers: Logitech Z-340
    GFX: Sapphire Radeon HD4870 512


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