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    Angry GA-EP43-DS3R problems..

    Hey, im new here but lets see if you guys can help me.
    A week ago i fried my 780i FTW mobo. And i needed a cheap replacement because i did not have a lot of cash. So i decided to get a GA-EP45-UD3R. After installing it, everything worked great i booted it up no problems and it was late so i turned it off went to bed.

    next day i boot it up and it hangs and just freezes at a random place while booting up (post like it shows what looks like dos). Restart it manually and then it boots up normal. Windows boots up so i decide to watch a movie (yes all drivers are installed) 5 minutes into watching the movie my entire screen freezes and i can't move mouse nothing.. i wait about 5-7 seconds and it goes back to normal. near the end of the movie the exact same thing its like its on a clock when to freeze.

    Everyday in the morning it hangs on the booting process but any time after i rebot it manually it works. And it always wants to freeze while using my computer or even not using it, it just randomly freezes. Now sometimes i can ever hear my motherboard "click" before it freezes if i really try hard to listen. i had a 680i in another computer, i swapped it and it all works. went back to this mobo and the stuff keeps happening.

    I do not have any BIO's updates so i wonder if that is the problem. while writting this my screen froze... im starting to get mad.

    Im running a Q9550, 8 Gigs of OCZ 1066 Reaper ram, 280 GTX SC EVGA, all stock. even if i TRY to oc by 1 mhz my system crashes and goes into safe. Does anyone have an explination on why this is happning. even when doing nothing my screen freezes. Thanks for anyone who can help.

    Any Ideas? (note currently my system BIO's is all stock other than enabiling USB keyboard, and RAID 0 with two HDD, the freezing still happens out side of RAID too).

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    Default Re: GA-EP43-DS3R problems..

    Was not sure how to edit, just saying, i am running windows vista SP 64X ultimate, and have tried to reformat. MANY times.
    Last edited by Lsdmeasap; 04-14-2009 at 02:19 PM.

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    Default Re: GA-EP43-DS3R problems..

    Your system problems are due to incorrect bios settings, we'll help you quickly fix this.

    We need:
    A link to your ram's specs.
    A list of your major system components added to your signature.
    What bios version are you running?
    Fill in your bios settings from the generic bios template and post these settings.

    If you're running with 4 memory modules, remove the sticks from the #2 and #4 memory slots. Once you can boot without problems, you will be able to run all your memory modules with some additional voltage settings. It will be much easier to get your system stable with only 2 memory modules.

    Did you load OPTIMIZED bios settings before using your system?
    Last edited by Lsdmeasap; 04-14-2009 at 02:19 PM.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: GA-EP43-DS3R problems..

    Ok well... Here is my system specs.

    -Cooler Master HAF932
    -Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550
    -8 GB DDR2 OCZ Reaper Ram @ 1066 mhz
    (OCZ 4GB PC2-8500 Reaper HPC 4GB Edition Dual Channel DDR2 Kit (2 x 2GB) at Memory Express Computers)
    -EVGA Geforce GTX 280 1GB SC
    -Ultra X3 1KW PSU Modular
    -LG 20x DVD Writer, SATA
    -LG 20x DVD Writer, SATA + LightScribe
    -HDD 1x 500GB SATAII 7200RPM 16MB HDDs/HDD 1x 250GB SATAII 7200RPM 16MB HDDs/ HDD 2X WD 640GB 32MB 7200 RAID 0
    -OS Windows Vista Ultimate SP 1 64-bit
    -Samsung 24" 245 1920 x 1200 5MS
    -Logitech G7 Wireless Mouse and G15 Keyboard

    No idea what BIO's version, it would be what ever version it came with. And the COLD boot in the morning is not the problem im concerned about. Its the freezing during the day. I tried doing what you said to do with the memory, and the freezing still happens.

    And as for my Bio's everything is at stock, other than Raid [Enabled]
    Last edited by Lsdmeasap; 04-14-2009 at 02:21 PM.

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    Default Re: GA-EP43-DS3R problems..

    Note**I am going to post my bios, i just have to write it all down.
    Last edited by Lsdmeasap; 04-14-2009 at 02:22 PM.

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    Default Re: GA-EP43-DS3R problems..

    The bios version is displayed in the upper left portion of the first post screen (if you've disabled the Gigabyte logo display) or in programs like cpu-z, HWmonitor, Everest, etc.
    Last edited by Lsdmeasap; 04-14-2009 at 02:23 PM.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Exclamation Re: GA-EP43-DS3R problems..

    Wow i feel stupid i told u the wrong mobo i thought i had that one..wow so sorry. This is what i really have (using CPU-Z)

    GA-EP43-DS3R x.x
    Chip P45 A2
    SouthBridge 82801JR (ICH10R)

    Bios
    F4
    Date 06/12/2008
    Here is what i have in my Bio's

    Code:
    BIO's VERSION: 
    
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8X
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: .0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 333 X 8 (2.66)(yet in windows shows as 2.83)
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Disabled] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 900
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: [Auto]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Auto]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................ 7
    tRCD ......................................... 7
    tRP'........................................... 7
    tRAS.......................................... 20
     
    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first.  Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD........................................... 4
    tWTR.......................................... 4
    tWR............................................ 8
    tRFC........................................... 72
    tRTP........................................... 4
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 0
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................: 8
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: 8
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Normal ........... Current
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:Auto
    
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......:Auto
    
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: Auto
    
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: Auto 
    
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: Auto
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........:
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........;
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........:
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............:
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............:
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: 
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: 
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............:
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Enabled]
    Last edited by Lsdmeasap; 04-14-2009 at 02:25 PM.

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    Default Re: GA-EP43-DS3R problems..

    Glad we cleared up the mobo model #.

    Your EP43-DS3R won't overclock as high as the EP45-UD3R, but with your cpu you can still have a decent system.

    I've gotta do my taxes, so I might not be able to get back to you until Wednesday night. I going to PM Lsdme to take over so you can get things going quicker.

    If you can change the title of this thread to your real mobo, it will benefit you and others.
    Last edited by Lsdmeasap; 04-14-2009 at 02:25 PM.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: GA-EP43-DS3R problems..

    Title will be changed in a sec.

    I will edit this post in one second with my advice on your thread here.
    Last edited by Lsdmeasap; 04-14-2009 at 02:27 PM.

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    Default Re: GA-EP43-DS3R problems..

    So this is a clean install correct? Just checking to be sure you are not using a old install from one of the other board mentioned. I see you say you formatted many times, so I did read your posts I just wanted to check to be absolutely sure.

    Drivers, are you downloading them from the Gigabyte site or directly such as from Intel? If not, I do advise you do so as the CD Drivers are likely all outdated

    Gigabyte Driver Page >>>
    GIGABYTE - Support&Download - Motherboard - Driver - GA-EP43-DS3R (rev. 1.0)


    Or Direct Source Downloads

    Intel Chipset Drivers >>>
    Download Locations

    RealTek LAN And Audio >>>

    Audio
    Realtek

    LAN
    http://www.station-drivers.com/telec...ivers.com).exe

    P43 is not the greatest overclocker as mentioned above, but you should for sure have some leeway with it. The 8GB of ram is what is giving you issues more then anything.

    For starters I have to advise you do not run the ram at 1066MHz until you find some stability. 8GB @ 1066 is not always possible with all ram and boards, and is not guaranteed by either manufacturer. So if you are running them at 1066 already, this is likely why you have issues at a 1 MHz overclock and may also be why you are experiencing freezes. Many things need to be manually set for 8GB, no matter the speed so if you are using Auto across the board that may also be part of the issue.

    I see you posted your settings, sorry about the above ramble, I reply as I read so all of that is to your initial post

    I do advise you flash your BIOS to F9, many fixes since F4 >>
    GIGABYTE - Support&Download - Motherboard - BIOS - GA-EP43-DS3R (rev. 1.0)

    Do not use @BIOS, use Qflash. Here is a guide I wrote >>>
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/bios...h-guide-27576/

    Be sure to load optimized then set your ram voltage and save/apply after you flash. You may want to do this flash with only 4GB installed, may make things easier on you

    I am not sure what you want to overclock to, so for now I will provide you with some stock settings so you can try to get that going and stable for you. Then later we can try to get you overclocked a little and see how it goes. Do you have a good cooler or stock?

    Your CPU is showing 2.66 in the BIOS because that is what you are running it at because it appears you never loaded optimized defaults, or have crashed the BIOS back to default and never loaded them again since. Please be sure you do that after you flash your BIOS. If you do not wish to flash, please load and apply optimized defaults and set your ram voltage now, then save/apply and reboot back to the BIOS. Please do read the guide I linked about using Qflash so you know what to do after you load and apply optimized.

    You see 2.83 in windows (Not sure where you are looking) because that is part of the CPU name and it would show in a few places as 2.83Ghz, but your settings above do indicate you are for sure running your CPU at 2.66.

    See here is the name section in Red, and here is the Speed section in Blue, of CPU-z and windows Vista System Properties >>>





    So you can check that again and see, you should see 2.66Ghz in the speed section with the above settings

    Do not just make these CPU changes, please load optimized as discussed as many hidden and visible settings will not be applied correctly if you do not.

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8X
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: .5
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 333 X 8.5


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: [Auto] Use 2.40B for 800Mhz for now as mentioned above
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Auto]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................ 5
    tRCD ......................................... 5
    tRP'........................................... 5
    tRAS.......................................... 12/15

    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................4-5
    tWTR.......................................... 4-8
    tWR............................................ 6-12
    tRFC........................................... 68-78
    tRTP........................................... 3-5
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................: 2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................800/1066 (1066 may work better then 800, but also may not work at all. Try 1066 first if you like, if no luck set 800)

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................: 8 << Set 9 for now
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: 8 << Set 9 for now
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type.………... Normal ........... Current
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:Auto

    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: << Set 1.225-1.25

    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << Set 1.5

    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: Auto

    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: Auto

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << Set 1.20-1.34 (Try 1.24-1.32 should be good. Upper end of that range is likely needed for 8GB)
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; Auto
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: Auto
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: << Set 1.55
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: << Set 1.14-1.2

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: << Set 2.12-2.18
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: auto
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: auto
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: auto

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] << Disable if you do not use Vmware or Virtual PC

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Enabled] << Disable AFTER you flash, just to rule this out as a issue. This MUST be enabled to flash Via USB From Qflash

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