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    Default Re: new ep45-DS3L won't post short fast beeps

    Did you do a clean install when you moved to this machine/board? If not I suggest you start there.

    4x1GB does require a few things at least to be set manually, if you need help with that let me know and I can give you full settings to work with.

    You would need to set performance enhance on standard, set your own memory multi, set your timings and ram voltage, set MCH Core voltage to 1.20-1.24 and you may need more Vtt depending on your other setting choices.

    Quick multiple beeps is due to tRD (Static tRead Value) set to low, raise this and it will stop. Of course you must get everything else set properly as well though

    And please do use the latest BIOS and be sure to load optimized after you flash then reboot back to the BIOS before making your changes. For simplicity you may want to do the BIOS flash/optimized with only one stick of memory installed. Then once you are ready adjust the BIOS to what it needed for 4GB and shut down and install the rest

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    Default Re: new ep45-DS3L won't post short fast beeps

    If with "install", you refer to drivers, then I did not re-install everything as this board was the exact same board with the same chipset and the same revision than the one I RMAed. Starting the PC with 1 GB RAM, everything works perfectly well, so I doubt that any problems would come from there.

    I did set the Performance Mode to Standard and the RAM voltage to 2.1V. I've been looking around for detailed instructions about the other memory settings, but didn't manage to get hold of a complete list, not even from the manufacturer's homepage. If you could provide me with those, that'd be a very big help and I'd greatly appreciate it.

    I am currently using the latest BIOS, although it's still listed as a beta, and I did load optimized settings after flashing.

    I may not be able to tinker around on this till next Friday, but I'll certainly try everything possible as soon as I get back home. Thanks a lot for your help !

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    Default Re: new ep45-DS3L won't post short fast beeps

    MSI PN7 is a Nvidia based chipset, not the same at all as an Intel P45. I could be wrong, as maybe you did not post the full model name though? But if this is Nvidia based board you will need to do a full clean OS install

    It may not be your problem either way though, but it would be advise to do a clean install anyway.

    Since you do mention it is fine with 1GB of memory, can you please post me your full current settings and full specs again and I can help. Sounds like it may just be settings, template for your settings is in my signature.

    I can help for sure, and can give you Full settings that should get your going. Let me know once you get back around and I will help!

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    Default Re: new ep45-DS3L won't post short fast beeps

    The PN7 was the board I had a while ago. After that one broke, I got my first EP45, which already had problems since the beginning. That one, I RMA'ed again, and am now using the second EP45 DS3L. With the first one of that kind, I of course did a full re-installation, and am now using the exact same mainboard again, since the company sent me a replacement.

    I'm going to post all the settings I'm currently using as soon as I get home (probably thursday night).

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    Default Re: new ep45-DS3L won't post short fast beeps

    Ahh ok! See I thought you moved an OS install from PN7 to P45, that is why I suggested that.

    Aight, get me your settings when you can and I will advise back, hopefully we can get you going

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    Default Re: new ep45-DS3L won't post short fast beeps

    Okay, here comes my current configuration:

    DRAM Performance Control:
    Performance Enhance : Standard
    Extreme Memory Profile XMP : Auto
    GMCH Frequency Latch : Auto
    System Memory Multiplier : Auto
    Memory Frequency : 1066 MHz
    DRAM Tming Selectable: Manual

    Standard Timing Control:
    CAS Latency Time : 5
    tRCD : 5
    tRP : 5
    tRAS : 15

    Advanced Timing Control: (default values)
    tRRD : 4
    tWTR : 4
    tWR : 6
    tRFC : 56
    tRTP : 4
    Command Rate : 0

    Channel A and B Timing Settings : (default)
    Static tRead Value: 6
    tRD Phase0 - 3 Adjustment : 0
    Trd2rd : 8
    Twr2wr : 8
    Twr2rd : 7
    Trd2wr : 9

    Channel A and B Driving Settings : all auto

    DRAM Voltage : 2,100 V

    I think that's all. If you need any other values specified, please let me know. Thanks again for your help !

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    Default Re: new ep45-DS3L won't post short fast beeps

    Ya I need the full settings, so I can advise back. I don't know what CPU settings you are using so I will wait until you post full settings to advise back.

    Static tRead Value of 6 could be what is causing your many fast beeps, if you are still getting that error. But I do need to see full settings before I can advise anything else.

    Template is in my signature for you to give me your full settings, please use that. Thanks!

    *Edit*

    Also, these should all be on Auto, if they are not please set Auto. Entering Zero will set Auto if you do not find Auto at the top of the listed settings.
    Trd2rd : 8
    Twr2wr : 8
    Twr2rd : 7
    Trd2wr : 9

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    Default Re: new ep45-DS3L won't post short fast beeps

    Alright, here's the rest:


    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:(option not available)
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.40GHz (266x9)


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 266 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: Auto
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 700mV
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 700mV
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Auto
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: Auto
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: Auto
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................ 5
    tRCD ......................................... 5
    tRP'........................................... 5
    tRAS.......................................... 15

    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................4
    tWTR..........................................4
    tWR............................................6
    tRFC...........................................56
    tRTP...........................................4
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:0

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................Auto

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:6 Auto
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:0 Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7 Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    DDR Write Training....................:Auto

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:6 Auto
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:0 Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7 Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    DDR Write Training...................:Auto

    Motherboard Voltage Control

    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.27500V Auto

    CPU Termination…...........: 1.200V Auto

    CPU PLL…………………...........: 2.550V Auto

    CPU Referen.…………...........: 0.805V Auto

    CPU Reference2………..........: (option not available)

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….................: 1.100V Auto
    MCH Reference….…….............: 0.760V Auto
    MCH/DRAM Ref.….......................: (option not available)
    ICH I/O………………......................: 1.550V Auto
    ICH Core…………...……..................: (option not available)

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……................: 2.100V
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: (option not available)
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: (option not available)
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: (option not available)

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Enabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: (option not available)
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: (option not available)
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Enabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Enabled]

    That's all from your signature, if you need to know something else, lemme know!

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    Default Re: new ep45-DS3L won't post short fast beeps

    Thanks, try these settings with all sticks. You may need to use one or two sticks just to set them, and then apply and reboot, then shut down and put in all sticks.

    Are you SURE you loaded and applied Optimized Defaults then saved and rebooted? If not, please do that now first!

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:(option not available)
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.40GHz (266x9)


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 266 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: Auto
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 700mV << Optimized default is 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 700mV << Optimized default is 900 (About these both: Don't just change them, please do load optimized defaults and apply/reboot. If these are set to 700/700 with optimized then it is ok to change, you just have to be sure you are starting with optimized not fail safe as there is hidden settings that will not be set properly if you do not)

    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Auto << Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: Auto
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: Auto << Set 4.00C (4x266=1066)
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................ 5
    tRCD ......................................... 5
    tRP'........................................... 5
    tRAS.......................................... 15 << use 18 for now

    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................4
    tWTR..........................................4 << Set 8 for now
    tWR............................................6 << Set 10 for now
    tRFC...........................................56 << Set 68 for now
    tRTP...........................................4 << Set 5 for now
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:0 << Set 2 always

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................Auto << Set 1066

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:6 Auto <<< Set manually to 8 for now, you can try 6-7 later. This is what causes many fast beeps on startup, to low of a value here
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:0 Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7 Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    DDR Write Training....................:Auto

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:6 Auto <<< Set manually to 8 for now, you can try 6-7 later
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:0 Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:0 Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7 Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9 Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    DDR Write Training...................:Auto

    Motherboard Voltage Control

    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.27500V Auto

    CPU Termination…...........: 1.200V Auto << Set 1.225-1.25

    CPU PLL…………………...........: 2.550V Auto

    CPU Referen.…………...........: 0.805V Auto

    CPU Reference2………..........: (option not available)

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….................: 1.100V Auto << Set 1.20-1.24 for 4GB, this is norm. Some boards need less than stock here such as 1.05 or 1.0, but expect to use 1.20-1.24 99% of the time
    MCH Reference….…….............: 0.760V Auto
    MCH/DRAM Ref.….......................: (option not available)
    ICH I/O………………......................: 1.550V Auto
    ICH Core…………...……..................: (option not available)

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……................: 2.100V << Set 2.15 for now (What is your ram spec voltage anyway? If you are unsure please give me the model #)
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: (option not available)
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: (option not available)
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: (option not available)

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Enabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: (option not available)
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: (option not available)
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Enabled] << Disable for now


    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Enabled] << Disable for now

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    Default Re: new ep45-DS3L won't post short fast beeps

    I loaded optimized defaults and set all settings as advised.

    With just 1 stick, the PC doesn't boot anymore at all. When I press the power button, it starts and just powers down again within a second.

    With 4 sticks, it doesn't power down, but I still get the beeps.

    I didn't manage to turn it back on ever since I set those settings. I probably won't get the time for a CMOS reset and to work on this again till next week end, so I'll just wait for further instructions.

    The RAM I am using are 4x 1 GB OCZ Reaper PC8500. Default voltage detected by the mainboard is 1.800 Volts, but it says 2.1 - 2.3 Volts on the OCZ homepage, which is why I set it to 2.100.

    Also, after loading optimized defaults and changing some settings, the default values of certain other settings changed automatically. I don't remember all of them, but the latency settings and advanced timing controls definitely changed to different values. Nevertheless, I overwrote them all and forced the settings you provided everywhere.

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