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    Default X58 Extreme Cold Boot Issue

    My X58 mobo doesn't post the first time after I start it from a windows shutdown. It shuts down at least once and sometimes twice, even with the default bios settings.

    If I do a restart from windows and enter the bios, I can over clock my machine as far as I want to go and it is stable, but as soon as I shut it all the way down, it won't come back up until it has reset the bios back to default settings?

    It barely seems to boot with the default settings and if I make any changes to the base clock, even mild ones, it won't post from a cold start.

    I tried the online tech support at the Gigabyte website and they said I was out of luck, see quote below;

    "Unfortunately any results off from overclocking are not guarantee, you will need to perform on your own to determine the most stable results for your system setup"

    Which in my case means that I just paid $350 for a board that can only run my processor at stock speeds, if I actually want to shut it completely down.

    Has anyone else seen this issue with the X58 Extreme?

    Thanks,

    Josh

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    Default Re: X58 Extreme Cold Boot Issue

    There are several bios settings that are probably causing your problems.
    For us to help you, check this post for information that you'll need to provide.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
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    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
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    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
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    You are not alone....

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    Default Re: X58 Extreme Cold Boot Issue

    By any chance does your mobo when it fails to boot, light 2 LEDS next to the DIMMS one in Yellow and one in green?

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    Default Re: X58 Extreme Cold Boot Issue

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    There are several bios settings that are probably causing your problems.
    For us to help you, check this post for information that you'll need to provide.
    Unfortunately this template isn't designed for the X58 chipset. The X58 chipset is quite a bit different, because of the QPI settings. However, If I have all of the default optimized settings in the bios set and I raise the base clock from 133 to 140 and under clock my RAM to less than 1066 at 1.5V, just to make sure it isn't caused by the RAM, it wont cold boot. Basically, if I change anything, no matter how small, it won't cold boot. The X58 extreme motherboard has serious problems and please don't recommend it to anyone.

    Josh
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    Default Re: X58 Extreme Cold Boot Issue

    I just discovered something crazy. If I completely shut the machine down and use the power button on the motherboard to reboot it, it boots fine with all of my stable overclock settings. What is up with that????

    Update: I just reversed the polarity of the power signal lines coming from my chassis and it now my system will cold boot no problem. I now have green on the left and black on the right. Is this correct? Or is something wired wrong, chassis or mobo?. The mobo still powers up with the polarity the other way, it is just really unstable. Does the polarity of the power switch really matter? I still think that this is a bug on the mobo, because if the polarity is switched, it should do one of two things, power up correctly, or not at all.

    Any insight would be much appreciated,

    Josh
    Last edited by joshuatree74; 04-21-2009 at 10:57 PM.
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    Default Re: X58 Extreme Cold Boot Issue

    A quick forum search found this X58 bios template.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: X58 Extreme Cold Boot Issue

    mem voltage helps mem controller and uncore scales with it...it is not just for mem. DRAM volts needs to be set to 1.64v as a starting point, regardless of your mem speed, especially using 12gb ram...which most mobos are having issues with. And using 12 gb ram may need higher qpi/vtt.

    What bios are you using? have you tried F7c?

    I run 4.2ghz stable but with 6gb ram, and bench 4.3-4.8 without cold boot issues...except for certain bioses...such as f4 final and some F5betas I had similar issues above 180 bclk.
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    Default Re: X58 Extreme Cold Boot Issue

    I just discovered something crazy. If I completely shut the machine down and use the power button on the motherboard to reboot it, it boots fine with all of my stable overclock settings. What is up with that????

    Update: I just reversed the polarity of the power signal lines coming from my chassis and it now my system will cold boot no problem. I now have green on the left and black on the right. Is this correct? Or is something wired wrong, chassis or mobo?. The mobo still powers up with the polarity the other way, it is just really unstable. Does the polarity of the power switch really matter? I still think that this is a bug on the mobo, because if the polarity is switched, it should do one of two things, power up correctly, or not at all.

    Any insight would be much appreciated,

    Josh
    Intel Core i7 920 - stock
    Gigabyte GA-EX58-Extreme
    12GB Corsair Dominator @1600MHz. - stock
    XFX GTX285 - stock
    2x WD Velociraptor
    Swiftech Ultima WC
    CM Stacker Case
    Corsair 1000w PSU

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    Default Re: X58 Extreme Cold Boot Issue

    Is it still working? I have cool-boot issue sometimes and I would like to try it.

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