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    Default System Instability: EP45-UD3P, E2180, Crucial Ballistix 2.2V

    <meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><title></title><meta name="GENERATOR" content="OpenOffice.org 3.0 (Win32)"><style type="text/css"> <!-- @page { margin: 0.79in } P { margin-bottom: 0.08in } --> </style> This is my first overclocked rig. I originally had it at 3.0GHz (10x, 300MHz FSB) and the system was intermittently unstable (BSOD's anywhere from immediately upon loading of Vista desktop to after 8 hours of use). I knocked it down to 2.66GHz (10x, 266MHz FSB) with no change in stability. Changed overclock settings to 3.2GHz (8x, 400MHz FSB) with no change in stability. After crashing, system would reboot and may do any of the following:


    Boot normally with OC settings intact
    Try to POST, reboot with OC settings reverted to stock
    Try to POST, reboot, repeating endlessly


    Once in BIOS Setup after a crash, PC Health page shows all the voltages and temps at good levels.




    My Setup:
    Intel E2180 dual core processor (Stock 2.0GHz, OC 3.2GHz)
    Gigabyte EP45-UD3P Rev 1.1 F8 BIOS
    4 x 1GB Crucial Ballistix memory (Sticker on memory says 2.2V, 4-4-4-12)
    Corsair HX620W 620 watt power supply
    Nvidia GTX260
    Xigmatek HDT S1283
    Antec 900 case
    Vista Home Premium 64-bit



    My Current Overclock:
    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
     Robust Graphics Booster ...............: AUTO
     CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8
     CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.2GHZ
     
    
     
    
     Clock Chip Control  
     Standard Clock Control
     CPU Host Clock Control..................: ENABLED
     CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 400MHZ
     PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100 MHZ
     
    
     C.I.A.2 .................................: DISABLED
     
    
     
    
     Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
     CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800mV
     PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 900mV
     CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0ps
     MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0ps  
     
    
     
    
     DRAM Performance Control
     Performance Enhance...................: STANDARD
     Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: DISABLED
     (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: 400MHZ
     System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00D
     Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
     DRAM Timing Selectable ................: MANUAL
     
    
     Standard Timing Control
     CAS Latency Time........................5
     tRCD ......................................... 5
     tRP'........................................... 5
     tRAS......................................... 18
     
    
     
    
     
    
     Advanced Timing Control
     tRRD...........................................: AUTO
     tWTR..........................................: AUTO
     tWR............................................: AUTO
     tRFC...........................................: AUTO
     tRTP...........................................: AUTO
     Command Rate (CMD) ....................: AUTO
     
    
     Driving Strength Profiles
     Driving Strength ............................800 MHZ
     
    
     Channel A
     Static tRead Value.........................: AUTO
      tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: AUTO
     tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................: AUTO
      tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: AUTO
      tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: AUTO
     Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: AUTO
     Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: AUTO
     Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: AUTO
     Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: AUTO
     Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............: AUTO
     Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............: AUTO
     
    
     Channel B
     Static tRead Value.........................: AUTO
      tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................: AUTO
     tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................: AUTO
      tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................: AUTO
      tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................: AUTO
     Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................: AUTO
     Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................: AUTO
     Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................: AUTO
     Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................: AUTO
     Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............: AUTO
     Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............: AUTO
     
    
     Motherboard Voltage Control
     Voltage Type.………... Manual
     
    
     CPU
     CPU Vcore….……….........................: 1.425V
     CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: NORMAL
     CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: NORMAL
     CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: AUTO
     
    
     MCH/ICH
     MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.260V
     MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........: AUTO
     MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: AUTO
     ICH I/O……………….....1.550V............: AUTO
     ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: AUTO
     
    
     DRAM
     DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.2V
     DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: AUTO
     Channel A Reference 0.900V............: AUTO
     Channel B Reference 0.900V............: AUTO
     
    
     Advanced Settings
     Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: DISABLED
     No-Execute Memory Protect............: ENABLED
     CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: DISABLED
     CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: DISABLED
     CPU EIST Function.........................: DISABLED
     
    
     Integrated Peripherals
     Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............: ENABLED


    Speedfan Core Temps:
    Idle - ~27C
    100% Load – ~53C


    Memtest86+:
    4-4-4-12 produces numerous errors within 3 minutes of testing
    5-5-5-18 produces no errors after 15 minutes of testing


    OCCT Power Supply Test:
    1 hour, no error, all rails and core voltage within 5% tolerance


    LinX Test:
    Code:
    Intel(R) LINPACK x64 data - LinX 0.5.8
     
    
     Current date/time: Thu Apr 23 01:42:26 2009
     
    
     CPU frequency:    4.000 GHz
     Number of CPUs: 2
     Number of threads: 2
     
    
     Parameters are set to:
     
    
     Number of tests                             : 1
     Number of equations to solve (problem size) : 19380
     Leading dimension of array                  : 19384
     Number of trials to run                     : 50    
     Data alignment value (in Kbytes)            : 4     
     
    
     Maximum memory requested that can be used = 3005687136, at the size = 19380
     
    
     ============= Timing linear equation system solver =================
     
    
     Size   LDA    Align. Time(s)    GFlops   Residual     Residual(norm)
     
    
     19380  19384  4      696.055    6.9726   3.818145e-010 3.606526e-002
     19380  19384  4      696.504    6.9681   3.818145e-010 3.606526e-002
     19380  19384  4      694.741    6.9858   3.818145e-010 3.606526e-002
     19380  19384  4      694.244    6.9908   3.818145e-010 3.606526e-002
     19380  19384  4      680.030    7.1369   3.818145e-010 3.606526e-002
     19380  19384  4      693.166    7.0016   3.818145e-010 3.606526e-002
     19380  19384  4      692.477    7.0086   3.818145e-010 3.606526e-002
     19380  19384  4      692.913    7.0042   3.818145e-010 3.606526e-002
     19380  19384  4      692.000    7.0134   3.818145e-010 3.606526e-002
     19380  19384  4      690.639    7.0273   3.818145e-010 3.606526e-002
     19380  19384  4      691.372    7.0198   3.818145e-010 3.606526e-002
     19380  19384  4      691.201    7.0216   3.818145e-010 3.606526e-002
     19380  19384  4      690.013    7.0336   3.818145e-010 3.606526e-002
     19380  19384  4      688.688    7.0472   3.818145e-010 3.606526e-002
     19380  19384  4      688.840    7.0456   3.818145e-010 3.606526e-002
     19380  19384  4      686.410    7.0706   3.818145e-010 3.606526e-002
     19380  19384  4      685.801    7.0768   2.629874e+001 2.484115e+009


    Any suggestions on what I should do next?


    I suspect the memory might be out of spec since I can't seem to run it at the specified timings without errors in memtest86+ (though the instability of the system seems only marginally improved when running at 5-5-5-18 when running in Windows). Hopefully it is not bad hardware and just an error on my part in the overclock settings.


    Let me know if more info would help in figuring out what's up.





    Thanks

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    Default Re: System Instability: EP45-UD3P, E2180, Crucial Ballistix 2.2V

    I would try to run those settings with only 2 RAM sticks installed. 4 sticks is tougher on the mainboard, especially when overclocking.
    If you have no problems with 2 sticks then we know it's memory related and if you still have problems then we know it doesn't have anything to do with the 4 sticks of RAM and we can look elsewhere.


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    Default Re: System Instability: EP45-UD3P, E2180, Crucial Ballistix 2.2V

    Did you initially verify that your system is Memtest86+ and Linpack stable at stock (non-overclocked) settings?
    This is ALWAYS the first thing I do with a new build or when upgrading components.

    Most of your bios settings look good.
    The following should help:

    CPU Termination ....... 1.200V*.......: [NORMAL] <-- set to the value displayed in the bios (more might be needed when overclocking, use this carefully)
    CPU PLL .................. 1.500V*.......: [NORMAL] <-- set to the value displayed in the bios (1.57 might help when overclocking)

    ICH I/O ................... 1.550V............: [AUTO] <-- set to the value displayed in the bios (1.57 might help when overclocking)
    ICH Core ................. 1.100V............: [AUTO] <-- set to the value displayed in the bios (1.20 might help when overclocking)

    When overclocking:
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ...........: [ENABLED] <-- set to Disabled while overclocking

    When disabled, you won't be able to boot from a usb storage device.
    Once your system is stable, see if enabling usb storage detection causes instability.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
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    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
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    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
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    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
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    Default Re: System Instability: EP45-UD3P, E2180, Crucial Ballistix 2.2V

    Thanks for the feedback. I tried doing a 50 tests with LinX using stock settings and couldn't even boot into Vista without getting a blue screen. I then labeled all 4 of my memory sticks and did a single memtest86+ pass on each. 2 of the sticks went without error, the other 2 produced errors. I did about 25 LinX tests with the 2 good sticks in the system and so far, so good. I plan to run these two through a full 50 test run tonight.

    So now that I know I have at least 2 bad sticks of memory, I can either RMA them or get new stuff. I'm leaning towards getting some faster memory.

    Is having 4 sticks of memory on the system really that much more stressful? Should I go with 2 memory sticks instead of 4?

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    Default Re: System Instability: EP45-UD3P, E2180, Crucial Ballistix 2.2V

    I suggest going with 2x2GB of PC2-8500 ram. The retail price difference between PC2-8500 and PC2-6400 is usually less than $5 per kit.

    RMA all 4 memory sticks and ask Crucial to replace them with the newer 2.0 volt Crucial memory. With your current setup, PC-6400 memory would suffice, but might limit you in the future if you upgrade your cpu and want to increase your overclock.

    There has been talk of the premature failure rate with the Crucial 2.2 volt memory. Check out Lsdme's Crucial 2.0 Memory Review which covers the newer 2.0 volt replacements.

    With the low cost of DDR2 memory, you might want to upgrade to a 4x2GB setup. Keep in mind that overclocking with an 8GB setup is more challenging and that most memory manufacturers do NOT guarantee that their memory will operate at full rated speed when running more that 4GB.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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