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    Default Re: Help with GA-EP45C-DS3R, won't post reliably

    Make the following changes in your bios:

    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: 400 <-- set to AUTO
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 200D <-- set to AUTO

    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual] <-- set to AUTO

    CPU
    CPU Vcore ...............1.?????....... :Auto <--- set to the value displayed in your bios
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......:Auto <--- set to the value displayed in your bios
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......:Auto <--- set to the value displayed in your bios

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........:Auto <--- set to 1.22
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............:Auto <--- set to the value displayed in your bios

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.1 <--- set to 2.00

    The 4.00B memory multiplier will not work. You can't run 1066 memory at 1333MHz.

    Post a screenshot that includes:
    Memset using the SPD and ">>" tabs.
    cpu-z main screen
    EasyTune6 -->ADVANCE tab --> TUNER tab --> VOLTAGE tab

    You should run Memtest86+ to verify that everything is OK.
    Each pass includes 8 tests and will take about 30 minutes per pass.
    6 - 8 passes is the minimum. An overnight test is best.
    If there are any errors, note how long the test ran, the failed test number and the pass number of the failed test.

    FYI, load OPTIMIZED settings is the required first step.
    These additional settings are often required for any system to operate properly.
    The memory and MCH core settings need to be set differently for each system.

    Once your system is stable, we can offer some memory settings that will improve performance.
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    Default Re: Help with GA-EP45C-DS3R, won't post reliably

    Quote Originally Posted by profJim View Post
    Make the following changes in your bios:

    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: 400 <-- set to AUTO
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 200D <-- set to AUTO

    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual] <-- set to AUTO

    CPU
    CPU Vcore ...............1.?????....... :Auto <--- set to the value displayed in your bios
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......:Auto <--- set to the value displayed in your bios
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......:Auto <--- set to the value displayed in your bios

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........:Auto <--- set to 1.22
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............:Auto <--- set to the value displayed in your bios

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.1 <--- set to 2.00

    Tried these new settings, but experienced system shut downs even when in bios settings screen.

    Spent a couple of days playing with the settings and got frustrated and shut it off for a day.

    Reset bios to default, loaded optimized settings and set everything back to your original suggestions. System is more stable, but still randomly resets. I mean the power turns off and it then restart with a new post.

    Would certainly appreciate any further assistance that could be given. Thank you.
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    Default Re: Help with GA-EP45C-DS3R, won't post reliably

    You need to verify that your memory is ok by using Memtest86+ running from your cd/dvd drive.

    Make the following bios changes:

    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0.5 <--- set this to zero
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.66GHz (333X8.0)


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: Auto <--- set this to 100, never on AUTO

    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: 400 <--- set to 333
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 200D <--- set to 2.00B
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 667
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual] <--- is this really set to Manual?

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................ 5
    tRCD ......................................... 7 Cannot Change <--- set this to 5
    tRP'........................................... 7 Cannot Change <--- set this to 5
    tRAS.......................................... 24 Cannot Change <--- set this to 15

    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:Auto <--- set this to the value displayed in your bios
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......:Auto <--- set this to the value displayed in your bios
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......:Auto <--- set this to the value displayed in your bios

    When you post your results, tell us exactly what values you entered!

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........:Auto <--- set to 1.20 (1.24 might be needed, tell us what settings you tried)

    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............:Auto <--- set this to the value displayed in your bios

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.1<--- set to 2.02

    You will now be running at 667MHz memory speed. Run two full passes with Memtest86+. If you have any errors, report all your bios settings, elapsed run time when the error occurred, test # and pass # of the failure(s).

    If there are no errors, set:
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00B <--- set to 2.40B
    Your memory speed will now be 800MHz. Run two more Memtest86+ loops and report any errors as detailed above.

    If there are no errors, set:
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.40B <--- set to 3.20B
    Your memory speed will now be 1066MHz. Run at least six more Memtest86+ loops (more is better) and report any errors as detailed above.

    Details are very important verify that the bios settings you post exactly match the settings you used in your testing.
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    Default Re: Help with GA-EP45C-DS3R, won't post reliably

    Well folks, I just don't know what to think now. The system is now incredibly unstable and will not reliably pass post. Usually very difficult to access bios settings. I have tried all your suggested settings multiple times and none of them seem to help anymore. The very first setup you gave me worked well for an entire day, but on day two the system started the reboot nightmare. It even reboots while in bios settup screens.

    I did try Memtest86+ and the first time I ran it, the system made it through 6 plus cycles and I left to watch some tv. When I returned the system had rebooted and was failing in the first test step 1. It now does this every time I try to run it. Errors immediately in step 1, locks and hangs until the system reboots. Don't know if Memtest is doing the reboot or if it just hangs until the system reboot problem occurs. I do know that Memtest will not respond to a normal reboot command.

    I get the same results with each RAM stick by itself and with both installed. It does not make any difference which stick is in what slot, same reboot issue.

    I am thinking this means my RAM may be faulty, but I do not have any other DDR2 or DDR3 RAM to try.

    I will wait to hear further suggestions before I order more RAM. As always thanks to all for your help.
    Last edited by Alsim; 05-16-2009 at 02:23 AM.
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    If you have a friend with a DDR2 running rig, could you beg/borrow 2 sticks from them? Even offer to take your PC there to quickly test.

    It's not beyond the realms of possibility that one or more slots on your motherboard are bad, but as always better to swap RAM first, to see.

    As profJim said in his last post, are you sure you entered the settings correctly into the motherboard template.

    As he says, you state that you can't alter primary RAM timings, but you have "DRAM timing selectable" to enabled. This isn't possible the only time primary settings are greyed out is if you have "DRAM timing selectable" disabled.

    It is easy to miss enter settings sometimes, I've done it myself. I'm sure this problem is frustrating you greatly. I'd be tempted to walk into the middle of a large firld and scream my head off for a hour!

    Please do read profJims post, and enter everything exactly as he's written it. Take your time and be thorough. A beer usually helps me, so if you have one in the fridge drink it while you enter the settings. Just don't spill any on your PC.
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    Default Re: Help with GA-EP45C-DS3R, won't post reliably

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho101 View Post
    If you have a friend with a DDR2 running rig, could you beg/borrow 2 sticks from them? Even offer to take your PC there to quickly test.

    It's not beyond the realms of possibility that one or more slots on your motherboard are bad, but as always better to swap RAM first, to see.

    As profJim said in his last post, are you sure you entered the settings correctly into the motherboard template.

    As he says, you state that you can't alter primary RAM timings, but you have "DRAM timing selectable" to enabled. This isn't possible the only time primary settings are greyed out is if you have "DRAM timing selectable" disabled.

    It is easy to miss enter settings sometimes, I've done it myself. I'm sure this problem is frustrating you greatly. I'd be tempted to walk into the middle of a large firld and scream my head off for a hour!

    Please do read profJims post, and enter everything exactly as he's written it. Take your time and be thorough. A beer usually helps me, so if you have one in the fridge drink it while you enter the settings. Just don't spill any on your PC.
    I apologize for my inexperience and for not being clear in my replies. You are certainly correct about the frustration and I must admit the idea of a beer is very enticing.

    I always adjust all settings as profJim suggested and I always restore optimized settings before I make any new changes. I use a print of the bios settings that they provided to follow as a checklist for making the changes to the settings.

    I have adjusted these settings as profJim has indicated, I thought the RAM timing fields were disabled since they had red backgrounds and I could not get any numbers to change in the fields. I later discovered that I was using the numeric keypad and the NumLock was off. I am used to this being enabled by default, but it doesn't happen until after windows begins to start.

    I will ask around to see if anyone I know has some RAM they will loan me for a test. Thanks so much for the suggestions, you guys make this easier to deal with. At the back of my mind I always wonder if it is me and not the hardware.
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    It can be difficult to put into words what you have done etc. Just look at my posts, you will see I edit them alot. Mainly because my wireless keyboard is a PITA, but sometimes to clarify my ramblings.

    I know it seems like the oposite is true, but if it were you at fault it would be better than the hardware being dodgy. People are all capable of improvement. We're natures ultimate computer. Have confidence in yourself, and as a precaurion always double check any settings. I weite them down once, then read and check off each time. I've caught myself out many a time in my early days OCing on this board. It's normal.

    Hardware is never always perfect, and even with today's precise manufacturing techniques it's possible for a turd to be packaged with a bunch of diamonds. Hardware and compatability is always an issue somewhere. Hopefully Mushkin will sort you out a RMA if needed, hear their customer support is good. Also if it turns out to be the board, Gigabyte have improved greatly in this area from what they were a couple of years ago.
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    All,

    It seems that I may have found a work around to this problem. I am wondering if anyone else may have had this experience, or know why this seems to work.

    My system has been terribly unstable since I purchased it 6 months ago. I have tried all the wondeful suggestions from the good people here and even took it to a local computer repair shop without success.

    I was visiting with some friends recently and mentioned my problem. One of the guys volunteered to help. We intially went down all the same avenues, but he had the idea to configure the RAM in single channel mode. This seems to take care of the instability and the system has been running for 12 plus hours without a spontaneous reboot.

    Can anyone explain why this might occur?? Thanks in advance for any info you may have to share.
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    Default Re: Help with GA-EP45C-DS3R, won't post reliably

    I'll assume that you were originally using memory slots #1 and #3, and that you're now using slots #1 and #2 for single channel mode. If this is correct, your #3 memory slot might be defective.

    Go back to dual channel mode, using memory slots #2 and #4 and let us know if system stability is good or bad.

    I ran my system with my Mushkins for several months using the #2 and #4 slots with no problems or changes in system/memory performance.

    I also ran my system in single channel mode (slot #1 and slot#2) for several hours with no problems. Memtest86+ completed with no errors, but the memory bandwidth displayed in the upper left corner of the screen showed that there was a 10% reduction.
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