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Thread: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB




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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

    Skew would be a valid thing to try, sure.

    I've found that anything over 350 on either value causes a failed boot, even with everything else at stock. YMMV though.

    Also worth trying is DRAM timing skw, it may be just as influential.

    Remember that skew delays for a short period the signal it is effecting. Eg MCH skew alters the sync of the FSB signal compared to everything else, DRAM does the same on the DRAM traces. The end result is to hopefully restore the right signal timings after a heavy oc has pushed them out of tolerance. Usually these settings don't need altering because mobo designers "snake" traces to make an equal length so hopefully all signals get there at the right time.

    Very basic guide to clock skew and some situations it might be useful in: http://www.overclock.net/faqs/119265...save-your.html
    Last edited by Psycho101; 06-15-2009 at 02:58 AM.
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    Default Progress @ 520FSB

    Hopefully psycho101 can tell me what this means...

    Driving Strength Profile............: [1066Mhz] <-- Fails to boot fully
    Driving Strength Profile............: [Auto] <-- Passes IBT without Error

    Full template, the voltages may well be higher than required...

    Code:
    *************************************
    *************************************
    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P (Rev. 1.0) - F9
    *************************************
    *************************************
    
    ******************************
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) 
    ******************************
    Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ......................: [8X]
    x Fine CPU Clock Ratio................: +0.0
    CPU Frequency ........................: 4.16GHz( 520x8.0)
    
    ********** Clock Chip Control ********
    
    >>>>>  Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control................: [Enabled]
    x CPU Host Frequency(Mhz).............: [ 520]
    PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)............: [100]
    C.I.A.2...............................: [Disabled]
    
    >>>>> Advanced Clock Control..........: [Press Enter] 
    CPU Clock Drive.......................: [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive...............: [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew........................: [  0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew........................: [  0ps]
    
    ******** DRAM Performance Control ********
    
    Performance Enhance...................: [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile(X.M.P.)........: [Disabled]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........: [2.00D]
    Memory Frequency(Mhz).....800.........: 1020
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [Manual]
    
    >>>>> Standard Timing Control
    x CAS Latency Time................5...: [5]
    x tRCD ...........................5...: [   5]
    x tRP.............................5...: [   5]
    x tRAS...........................18...: [  15]
    
    >>>>> Advanced Timing Control.........: [Press Enter] 
    x tRRD............................3...: Auto
    x tWTR............................3...: Auto
    x tWR.............................6...: Auto
    x tRFC...........................52...: Auto
    x tRTP............................3...: Auto
    x Command Rate (CMD) .............0...: Auto
    
    >>>>> Channel A Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter] 
    x Static tRead Value..............7...: [ 9]
    x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    
    x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
    x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto
    
    x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
    
    >>>>> Channel A Driving Settings......: [Press Enter] 
    x Driving Strength Profile............: [Auto] <-- Had to change to Auto to make stable
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto
    
    >>>>> Channel B Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter] 
    x Static tRead Value..............7...: [ 9]
    x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    
    x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
    x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto
    
    x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
    
    >>>>> Channel B Driving Settings......: [Press Enter] 
    x Driving Strength Profile............: [Auto] <-- Had to change to Auto to make stable
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto
    
    ****** Motherboard Voltage Control ******
    
    Voltage Types..........Normal...........Current
    -----------------------------------------------
    >>> CPU
    Load-Line Calibration.................: [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore..............1.27500V.......: [1.35000V] (Twelve up from default)
    CPU Termination........1.200V.........: [1.280V] (Four up from default)
    CPU PLL................1.500V.........: [1.570V] (One up from default)
    CPU Reference..........0.760V.........: [Auto]
    >>> MCH/ICH
    MCH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.360V] (Eleven up from default)
    MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.750V] (0.700V with CPU Termination @ 1.200V)
    MCH/DRAM Reference.....0.900V.........: [Auto]
    ICH I/O................1.500V.........: [Auto]
    ICH Core...............1.100V.........: [Auto]
    >>> DRAM
    DRAM Voltage...........1.800V.........: [2.020V] (One up from default - DDR18V = 2.016V in PC Health Status)
    DRAM Termination.......0.900V.........: [Auto]
    Channel A Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]
    Channel B Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]
    
    ******** Advanced BIOS Features ********
    Hard Disk Boot Priority...............: [Press Enter]
    First Boot Device.....................: [USB-HDD]
    Second Boot Device....................: [Hard Disk]
    Third Boot Device.....................: [CDROM]
    Password Check........................: [Setup]
    HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability.............: [Enabled]
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect.............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...............: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support................:  Disabled
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.....................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology.............: [Disabled]
    Delay For HDD (Secs)..................: [ 0]
    Full Screen LOGO Show.................: [Disabled]
    Init Display First....................: [PEG]
    
    ******** Integrated Peripherals ********
    USB Keyboard Function.................: [Enabled]
    USB Mouse Function....................: [Enabled]
    USB Storage Function..................: [Disabled]
    * CPU: Intel i7-3770K @ Stock * Cooling: Corsair H80i / Noctua NF-F12 x2 * MoBo: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H (Rev. 1.1 - BIOS F16 Mod16) * RAM: Crucial 1600MHz DDR3 32GB (4x8GB) *
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

    RAM Driving Strength, rather than being a timing, is the fource by which a board will strobe and address RAM. Think of the strengths as like having to apply increasing force to get a physical object to move.

    Although Gigabyte have labeled their Driving Strength as RAM speeds, there's no reason why this should be the case. Different RAM IC's from different manufacturers can prefer different driving strengths. DFI have used both "Weak, Normal, Strong" and numbers -14 to +14 to represent the changes.

    If you have trouble booting, it would be interesting to know if another of the driving strengths will work, or if Auto is able to tweak even further than the pre-determined values available. Start with DS @ 667. Then try 800, 1200 and 1333.

    The results would be interesting to see.

    Edit** Try enabling and disablink DRAM Write Training with 1066 DS enabled, it may make a difference if you try and fail at all the other driving strengths.
    Forgot to add.. Good job so far!
    Last edited by Psycho101; 06-15-2009 at 04:22 AM.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

    I'll give your suggestions a go tonight, currently running a 20hr OCCT test that will complete when I get home.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

    OC-1200 was a BIG no no, complaining about corrupt files etc when trying to boot Windows.
    800Mhz however has passed a quick 5x IBT, going to try DRAM Write Training disabled with 1066 now...
    * CPU: Intel i7-3770K @ Stock * Cooling: Corsair H80i / Noctua NF-F12 x2 * MoBo: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H (Rev. 1.1 - BIOS F16 Mod16) * RAM: Crucial 1600MHz DDR3 32GB (4x8GB) *
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

    Nice one. Fingers crossed.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

    Was a no go that one psycho101, froze in Windows.

    Just been having a play with 530FSB, doesn't seem far off but wanted to leave Prime testing 520FSB overnight.

    Can I run 3 lots of Prime (Blend/Small/Large) at the same time to try and reduce testing time (I know I can run them OK, wondered if it considered good testing procedure though)?
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

    sounds dangerous to me...
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex St. John
    Consider for a moment that what we think of as “intelligence” is the byproduct of a computing architecture that depends on massive parallelism to interact with the world in real time without stalling for progress bars. If our ancestors’ brains had depended on running Vista on current dual-core processors for their survival, they would have been eaten by bears.

    Best Quote Ever...
    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho101
    Obey the one and only rule without question when you overclock.... don't cause a fire. Fires are hot and burny... not good.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

    Says a man running a 3GHz CPU @ 4.5GHz
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

    Not dangerous, but not a good idea. With all three tests going, they'll be arguing over resources, meaning the CPU and RAM might not get 100% stressed, as load swaps from one instance to the other, with a lower total load in between. It could also cause odd behaviour that usually wouldn't occur, such as crashes from software errors rather than hardware ones.
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