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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

    Eeh, I don't believe in asynchro mode :D

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

    there's no difference any more 1:1 and 1:2 ratios being worthwhile are now a thing of the past. the last kind of systems where I'd go out of my way to go 1:1 would be an Athlon 64 X2. Using a non 1:1 multi now gives far more performance than the ever so slight increase in latency it causes. I'm sure that BIOS authors have also gotten clever with strap programming.

    After all, Core 2 architecture was a radical re-design when it first came out, leaving even AMD's fancy pants integrated RAM controller and decent processing power in the dust. It was designed to absolutly minimise RAM access and bandwidth requirements.

    If it were a choice between a 1:1 multi and getting DDR-1033 and a non 1:1 with DDR-1066, maybe a 1:1 would win out given identical timings. However the closest multi to 2.00 is 2.4, giving a 20% increase in RAM clocks (if my maths is correct). thgis 20% more than out muscles a tiny bit of extra latency.

    Go with what you feel comfortable with though. If yyou wanted you could run the 2.00B/2.00D (what ever works) and possibly get 4-4-4-12 timings going. 890 with 4-4-4-12 should be ok, maybe requireing at least the same voltage as 1066 at 5-5-5-15/18.
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

    I still think the FSB speed means something though - but I am no expert. Is there any performance benefit in 500+FSB over say 450? Just this by itself? Or do we only care about the CPU speed in the end?

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

    cpu speed =number1,fsb speed= number 2,memory speed= number 3
    high fsb once u can hold memory timings will increase your bandwidth/pc performance.

    dunno what this thread is about.. its long..ud3p will boot with 450 fsb tho.. if its about something else it would be an idea to make a new post
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    It used to be. Now we are debating about hippies. We like to be together.

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

    Quote Originally Posted by kick View Post
    cpu speed =number1,fsb speed= number 2,memory speed= number 3
    high fsb once u can hold memory timings will increase your bandwidth/pc performance.

    dunno what this thread is about.. its long..ud3p will boot with 450 fsb tho.. if its about something else it would be an idea to make a new post

    We should have this thread renamed to like "Odd ramblings from around the world about life with the GA-EP45-UD3P hosted by D-and-W"

    Poor D-and-W.. his thread has been hyjacked so many times.. but I can't help myself!!

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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

    I dug out my 533 and 540 templates and wrote them down. Well, 540 simply refuses to work. It used to be 1.28 MCH, and with 1.3 it still failed after 7 hours, and later after 40 minutes. Argh. Not going for 1.32 at all. Not gonna happen.

    Briefly tried 445x9, 2.50A, but instant fail. Guess low FSB template needs totally different settings.

    These are the templates that WERE 24+24 hours stable and even raised MCH doesn't work now. Oh well. The PC is kicking me in the ass.

    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) 
    ******************************
    Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ......................: [7]
    x Fine CPU Clock Ratio................: [0.5]
    CPU Frequency ........................: []
    
    ********** Clock Chip Control ********
    
    >>>>>  Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control................: [Enabled]
    x CPU Host Frequency(Mhz).............: [533]
    PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)............: [100]
    C.I.A.2...............................: [Disabled]
    
    >>>>> Advanced Clock Control..........: [Press Enter] 
    CPU Clock Drive.......................: [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive...............: [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew........................: [ ]
    MCH Clock Skew........................: []
    
    ******** DRAM Performance Control ********
    
    Performance Enhance...................: [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile(X.M.P.)........: [Disabled]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........: [2.00B]
    Memory Frequency(Mhz).....800.........: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [Manual]
    
    >>>>> Standard Timing Control
    x CAS Latency Time................5...: [5]
    x tRCD ...........................5...: [ 5]
    x tRP.............................5...: [ 5]
    x tRAS...........................18...: [15]
    
    >>>>> Advanced Timing Control.........: [Press Enter] 
    x tRRD............................ ...: [Auto]
    x tWTR............................ ...: [Auto]
    x tWR............................. ...: [Auto]
    x tRFC...........................  ...: [Auto]
    x tRTP............................ ...: [Auto]
    x Command Rate (CMD) .............0...: [2]
    
    >>>>> Channel A+B Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter] 
    x Static tRead Value.............. ...: [10]
    x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    
    x Trd2rd(Different Rank).......... ...: Auto
    x Twr2wr(Different Rank).......... ...: Auto
    x Twr2rd(Different Rank).......... ...: Auto
    x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank).......... ...: Auto
    
    x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
    
    >>>>> Channel A Driving Settings......: [Press Enter] 
    x Driving Strength Profile............: [1066]
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto
    
    ****** Motherboard Voltage Control ******
    
    Voltage Types..........Normal...........Current
    -----------------------------------------------
    >>> CPU
    Load-Line Calibration.................: [Enabled]
    CPU Vcore..............1.25000V.......: [1.36875] I believe I was stable with 1.32500
    CPU Termination........1.200V.........: [1.220]
    CPU PLL................1.500V.........: [1.570] 
    CPU Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.760]
    >>> MCH/ICH
    MCH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.260] 
    MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.740] 
    MCH/DRAM Reference.....0.900V.........: [Auto]
    ICH I/O................1.500V.........: [.1570]
    ICH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.200]
    >>> DRAM
    DRAM Voltage...........1.800V.........: [2.100] 
    DRAM Termination.......0.900V.........: [1.050]
    Channel A Reference....0.900V.........: [1.050]
    Channel B Reference....0.900V.........: [1.050]
    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) 
    ******************************
    Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ......................: [7]
    x Fine CPU Clock Ratio................: [+0.5]
    CPU Frequency ........................: [4050]
    
    ********** Clock Chip Control ********
    
    >>>>>  Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control................: [Enabled]
    x CPU Host Frequency(Mhz).............: [540]
    PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)............: [100]
    C.I.A.2...............................: [Disabled]
    
    >>>>> Advanced Clock Control..........: [Press Enter] 
    CPU Clock Drive.......................: [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive...............: [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew........................: [ ]
    MCH Clock Skew........................: []
    
    ******** DRAM Performance Control ********
    
    Performance Enhance...................: [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile(X.M.P.)........: [Disabled]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........: [2.00B]
    Memory Frequency(Mhz).....800.........: 1080
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [Manual]
    
    >>>>> Standard Timing Control
    x CAS Latency Time................5...: [5]
    x tRCD ...........................5...: [ 5]
    x tRP.............................5...: [ 5]
    x tRAS...........................18...: [15]
    
    >>>>> Advanced Timing Control.........: [Press Enter] 
    x tRRD............................ ...: [Auto]
    x tWTR............................ ...: [Auto]
    x tWR............................. ...: [Auto]
    x tRFC...........................  ...: [Auto]
    x tRTP............................ ...: [Auto]
    x Command Rate (CMD) .............0...: [2]
    
    >>>>> Channel A+B Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter] 
    x Static tRead Value.............. ...: [10]
    x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    
    x Trd2rd(Different Rank).......... ...: Auto
    x Twr2wr(Different Rank).......... ...: Auto
    x Twr2rd(Different Rank).......... ...: Auto
    x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank).......... ...: Auto
    
    x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
    
    >>>>> Channel A Driving Settings......: [Press Enter] 
    x Driving Strength Profile............: [1066]
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto
    
    ****** Motherboard Voltage Control ******
    
    Voltage Types..........Normal...........Current
    -----------------------------------------------
    >>> CPU
    Load-Line Calibration.................: [Enabled]
    CPU Vcore..............1.25000V.......: [1.36875]
    CPU Termination........1.200V.........: [1.200]
    CPU PLL................1.500V.........: [1.590]
    CPU Reference..........0.760V.........: [Normal]
    >>> MCH/ICH
    MCH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.280]
    MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.740]
    MCH/DRAM Reference.....0.900V.........: [Auto]
    ICH I/O................1.500V.........: [.1570]
    ICH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.200]
    >>> DRAM
    DRAM Voltage...........1.800V.........: [2.100]
    DRAM Termination.......0.900V.........: [1.050]
    Channel A Reference....0.900V.........: [1.050]
    Channel B Reference....0.900V.........: [1.050]
    Last edited by Octopuss; 09-04-2009 at 01:49 PM.

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    I had to reduce the Driving Strength Profile down from OC-1333 to 1066MHz to get Prime Small to run for longer than 1/2 an hour, before I had to turn the power off it had run for about 3hrs (Kitchen fit in progress)...
    * CPU: Intel i7-3770K @ Stock * Cooling: Corsair H80i / Noctua NF-F12 x2 * MoBo: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H (Rev. 1.1 - BIOS F16 Mod16) * RAM: Crucial 1600MHz DDR3 32GB (4x8GB) *
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    Default Re: GA-EP45-UD3P - Won't boot with 450FSB

    I will do last attempt to get 540 stable, though still no idea which values to change. Maybe will play with 0.720 MCH ref.

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    Don't tell me you are out drinking when you are supposed to spend sleepless night behind the screen :D

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