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    Default Re: First build: very basic questions

    Terrible or not in terms of what people might think (about the orientation of the cooler), my system runs very cool, so... And I can't hear any appreciable noise coming from the PSU fan..

    Xbitlabs did a study on orientation and found the up orientation actually was better for some reason... (with the psu on top!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TranceFat View Post
    Terrible or not in terms of what people might think (about the orientation of the cooler), my system runs very cool, so... And I can't hear any appreciable noise coming from the PSU fan..

    Xbitlabs did a study on orientation and found the up orientation actually was better for some reason... (with the psu on top!)
    I luv Xbitlabs TranceFat!

    Link?

    Note: Is their site is down now?

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    Default Re: First build: very basic questions

    Quote Originally Posted by TranceFat View Post
    Terrible or not in terms of what people might think (about the orientation of the cooler), my system runs very cool, so... And I can't hear any appreciable noise coming from the PSU fan..

    Xbitlabs did a study on orientation and found the up orientation actually was better for some reason... (with the psu on top!)

    Ya, that very well could be due to the PSU Sucking in the heat and pushing it out the back. If you do not have any fans (Or PSU) up top I would not point it towards the top at all.

    Personally I wouldn't anyway, but that's just me what do I know

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    Default Re: First build: very basic questions

    Yes, the Antec 900 has 200mm fan at the top of the case. I once carved up a Dell case. When I saw the Antec 900, I realized it was sort of my vision for the ultimate case - big top fan, two big front fans blowing across the HDD's.

    I am leaving my Corsair 750 flipped, sucking in fresh air - it has to be cooler. Serendipity! Bottom fed cool air coming into the PSU rather than pre-heated air from inside the case. Whoot! I am raising the legs to get it higher off the floor to reduce dust intake. A creative mistake! I love it!
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    Default Re: First build: very basic questions

    If anything the PSU will find it more difficult to suck air in due to higher impedance, ie it's more difficult to take air in with only a 1-3 inch gap between fan and floor.

    Dust can be a problem too, no matter how far you raise the case. Cooling will definately be better with the fan on the inside, as the bottom front intake will blow fresh, cool air straight to it. There's no chance the air will be pre-heated, as any hotter air will rise way before it reaches the back of the case.

    Keep it that way if you wish, however if you happen to smell burning dust any time, you'll know where to look first.
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    Default Re: First build: very basic questions

    Tracefat,

    Ive decided to orient my cooler the same way. Reason: 200mm fan at the top of the case right over it. Im glad you mentioned that bc I was assuming the other orientation. Also, Ive decided to install a 4th 120mm in the side of the case where it will blow cool air in just below the cooler fan. cool air in>up through cooler> such out the top by 200mm.

    so big thanks! you got me to thinkin' ! :)
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    Not true - if you raise the case 3" you have actually EXCEEDED the requirements of the air intake. If you calculate it, at 3", you could block off 2 sides of the bottom and still get enough air for the PSU ...and to think that mine will be open on all sides. No leakage around bottom edge of my PSU - high temp gasket material!
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    Default Re: First build: very basic questions

    Quote Originally Posted by pchaplo View Post
    Not true - if you raise the case 3" you have actually EXCEEDED the requirements of the air intake. If you calculate it, at 3", you could block off 2 sides of the bottom and still get enough air for the PSU ...and to think that mine will be open on all sides. No leakage around bottom edge of my PSU - high temp gasket material!
    Calculate what exactly? As far as I know there are no listed specifications for any PSU as to how much clearance it would need. And having that gasket there will make no difference

    There will still be an increase in static air pressure over it being face up inside the case, and you'll be creating more noise due to air rushing around outside, being sucked in.

    I'm sure as much as any one else will recommend you install everything the propper way round, you would still do it your own way, so if you're happy with it, that's fine. It just seems like you're doing a lot of unnecessary thinking, about a "problem" that has had an optimum solution since case cooling was first thought of.
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