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Thread: First OC w/ ep45-UD3P and e5200...couple of questions




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    Default First OC w/ ep45-UD3P and e5200...couple of questions

    Just did my first OC and had a couple of questions...

    1) I have an e5200 and I kept my multiplier at 12.5 and just boosted the FSB to 280 giving me a 3.5ghz processor. Is this OC just as good as if I would have lowered the multiplier to 8.5 and boosted the FSB to 400? I have ddr2 sdram 800 (4-4-4-12). My CPU VCore is at 1.30v and after 24hrs of stability on Prime95 I have max idle temps of 40c and load temps of 61c...too hot?

    2)

    As shown in the above picture my Vista 64 welcome center is reporting my OC'd e5200 at 3.33. Yet, in the BIOS I set the OC to 3.5 (280 x 12.5 multiplier) My BIOS were verified by CoreTemp (as well as HWMonitor and CPU-Z) yet the welcome center is showing 3.33.

    It's not a huge deal, but I am a perfectionist and I would like it to show my correct overclock. Anyone know what's going on here? I was told that this might be a Speedstep or C1E problem, but I can't seem to find that option in my BIOS to disable?

    Mobo: Gigabyte ep45-UD3P
    RAM: Patriot Viper 4gb ddr2 sdram pc6400
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    Default Re: First OC w/ ep45-UD3P and e5200...couple of questions

    12x280= 3.336
    12.5x280=3.5

    Windows just doesnt pick up the .5 multi:) perfectly normal and as far as I'm aware, cannot be changed unless you somehow manipulate the screen to show false information!
    61'c is not to hot.
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    Default Re: First OC w/ ep45-UD3P and e5200...couple of questions

    Quote Originally Posted by WaltonsMountain View Post
    Just did my first OC and had a couple of questions...

    1) I have an e5200 and I kept my multiplier at 12.5 and just boosted the FSB to 280 giving me a 3.5ghz processor. Is this OC just as good as if I would have lowered the multiplier to 8.5 and boosted the FSB to 400? I have ddr2 sdram 800 (4-4-4-12). My CPU VCore is at 1.30v and after 24hrs of stability on Prime95 I have max idle temps of 40c and load temps of 61c...too hot?

    2)

    As shown in the above picture my Vista 64 welcome center is reporting my OC'd e5200 at 3.33. Yet, in the BIOS I set the OC to 3.5 (280 x 12.5 multiplier) My BIOS were verified by CoreTemp (as well as HWMonitor and CPU-Z) yet the welcome center is showing 3.33.

    It's not a huge deal, but I am a perfectionist and I would like it to show my correct overclock. Anyone know what's going on here? I was told that this might be a Speedstep or C1E problem, but I can't seem to find that option in my BIOS to disable?

    Mobo: Gigabyte ep45-UD3P
    RAM: Patriot Viper 4gb ddr2 sdram pc6400
    CPU: Intel e5200
    Cooler: Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
    PSU: Antec Earthwatts 500w
    Vid Card: ATI Radeon HD4870<!-- google_ad_section_end --><!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
    Start OCing with the following Advanced settings:

    Code:
    ____________________________________________________
    ____________________________________________________
    __________Advanced BIOS Features:___________________
    ____________________________________________________
    ____________________________________________________
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3______________[Disabled]_______
    No-Execute Memory Protect__________[Enabled]________
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)____________[Disabled]_______
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2)_________[Enabled]________
    CPU EIST Function__________________[Disabled]_______
    Virtualization Technology__________[Disabled]_______
    (*Note* Must be enabled for VMware/Virtual PC)______
    ____________________________________________________
    ____________________________________________________
    And including CPU-Z in Screen Shots that pertain to CPU speeds would be the most advisable thing to remember. That way, not only would ppl see the speed that Windows registers, but also something completely independent of Windows.

    Edit:

    woops. I guess you covered the independent thingy with Core Temp. sry WaltonsMountain, my bad.
    Last edited by Bee_Dee_3_Dee; 05-11-2009 at 02:45 AM.
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    Default Re: First OC w/ ep45-UD3P and e5200...couple of questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Dodgexander View Post
    12x280= 3.336
    12.5x280=3.5

    Windows just doesnt pick up the .5 multi:) perfectly normal and as far as I'm aware, cannot be changed unless you somehow manipulate the screen to show false information!
    61'c is not to hot.
    Okay that can't be it because I just changed my multiplier to 12 and bumped the FSB to 300 for a 3.6 and it is still showing 3.33 in the Windows Help Center....any other explainations?

    Also about question #1... is 12.5 x 280FSB just as good as 8.5 x 400FSB??? Is it faster with a faster FSB? I just don't see the advantages... can someone explain?
    Last edited by WaltonsMountain; 05-11-2009 at 05:45 AM.

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    Default Re: First OC w/ ep45-UD3P and e5200...couple of questions

    anybody know?

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    Default Re: First OC w/ ep45-UD3P and e5200...couple of questions

    okay figured it out. For those that get this conflicting info...make sure you disable C1E and the CPU E1ST Function in advanced BIOS options. The Vista Welcome Center will then accurately read your OC, but only the stock multiplier.

    So for example, I had my highest stable OC at 12.0multiplier x 300FSB = 3.6GHz, but Vista read it as 12.5 (e5200 stock multiplier) x 300FSB so it ended up showing 3.75GHz...

    just for accuracy and stability issues I decided to take it down to 12.5 x 280FSB = 3.5GHz. Shows up in both. :) Hope that makes sense.

    Final OC (stable 24hrs in Prime 95)

    Intel e5200 @ 3.5Ghz (CPU VCore = 1.28v)
    Last edited by WaltonsMountain; 05-11-2009 at 11:38 AM.

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    Default Re: First OC w/ ep45-UD3P and e5200...couple of questions

    Quote Originally Posted by WaltonsMountain View Post
    okay figured it out. For those that get this conflicting info...make sure you disable C1E and the CPU E1ST Function in advanced BIOS options. The Vista Welcome Center will then accurately read your OC, but only the stock multiplier.

    So for example, I had my highest stable OC at 12.0multiplier x 300FSB = 3.6GHz, but Vista read it as 12.5 (e5200 stock multiplier) x 300FSB so it ended up showing 3.75GHz...

    just for accuracy and stability issues I decided to take it down to 12.5 x 280FSB = 3.5GHz. Shows up in both. :) Hope that makes sense.

    Final OC (stable 24hrs in Prime 95)

    Intel e5200 @ 3.5Ghz (CPU VCore = 1.28v)
    You mean like the following said to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bee_Dee_3_Dee View Post
    Start OCing with the following Advanced settings:
    [^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^]

    Code:
    ____________________________________________________
    ____________________________________________________
    __________Advanced BIOS Features:___________________
    ____________________________________________________
    ____________________________________________________
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3______________[Disabled]_______
    No-Execute Memory Protect__________[Enabled]________
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)____________[Disabled]_______
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2)_________[Enabled]________
    CPU EIST Function__________________[Disabled]_______
    Virtualization Technology__________[Disabled]_______
    (*Note* Must be enabled for VMware/Virtual PC)______
    ____________________________________________________
    ____________________________________________________
    And including CPU-Z in Screen Shots that pertain to CPU speeds would be the most advisable thing to remember. That way, not only would ppl see the speed that Windows registers, but also something completely independent of Windows.

    Edit:

    woops. I guess you covered the independent thingy with Core Temp. sry WaltonsMountain, my bad.
    <<< LGA2011 System Summary >>>
    > Power Supply: CORSAIR AX Series AX860 860W 80 PLUS PLATINUM Haswell Ready Full Modular (NE Link)
    > Chipset : Intel X99
    > Mainboard :Gigabyte GA-X99-Ultra Gaming
    (NE Link)
    > Processor : i7-6850K (NE Link)
    > AIO: Corsair Hydro Series H100i V2 (NE Link)
    > Physical Memory : G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 3200 Model F4-3200C14Q-32GTZSW (NE Link)
    > Video Card : 2x ASUS ROG STRIX-GTX1070-O8G-GAMING (NE Link)


    <<< LGA1366 System Summary >>>
    > Power Supply:
    >>>Original PSU (2011-01) :
    Corsair 620HX (NE Link)
    >>>Upgrade PSU (2012-01) : CORSAIR AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W (NE Link)
    > Chipset : Intel X58
    > Mainboard : Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R (REV.2.0) (FB BIOS)
    (NE Link MPP Link)
    > Processor : i7-950 (Revision D0) 3.0GHz @3.84GHz
    (NE Link MPP Link)
    > HSF:
    Noctua NH-D14 (NE Link MPP Link)
    > Physical Memory :
    >>>Original RAM (2011-01) : G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Model F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ
    >>>Upgrade RAM (2012-01) : Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) w/FrostByte Heatsink Model 998990 (NE Link MPP Link OverClockersClub Dot Com Article)
    > Video Card :
    >>>Original Vid Card (2011-01) : BFG Geforce GTX295 (
    NE Link)
    >>>Upgrade Vid Card(2012-01) : (2) EVGA 02G-P3-1568-KR GTX 560 Ti (2GB)-SLI (
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    > DVD-Rom Drive : TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B ATA Device
    > Monitor :
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    > Operating System : Windows 7 Ultimate
    > Case : COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel (
    NE Link)

    <<< LGA775 System Summary >>>
    > Power Supply: Corsair 620HX (
    NE Link)
    > Mainboard : Gigabyte P35-S3G (F2 BIOS)
    > Chipset : Intel P35
    > Processor : Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale (Revision C0) 3.0GHz @ 3950 MHz
    > HSF: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
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    Link)
    > Video Card : BFG Geforce GTX295
    > DVD-Rom Drive : TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B ATA Device
    >
    Monitor : ViewSonic Pro Series VP2655wb Black 26"
    > Operating System : Windows 7 Ultimate


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