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    Default Re: Q6600 and EP45 UD3P mild overclock problem

    The timings in the SPD you're looking to match initially are in the 533 column. As DDR2 SDRAM, like DDR SDRAM before it is Double Data Rate, 533*2=1066 = PC8500.

    It seems as though Mushkin couldn't be arsed with completing the SPD for 533 fully, but I'm guessing the last part would be something conservative such as: 30-68-4-8-4-4.

    Sorry if I'm not giving much of a detailed answer at the minute, as it's 3:30 AM here and I'm knackered. I'll try again in the morning.
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    Default Re: Q6600 and EP45 UD3P mild overclock problem

    When you post your bios settings, ALWAYS include ALL of the settings. This is especially important when you're having problems.

    The values in the SPD panel are programmed by the memory manufacturer and are default values that the bios uses. These settings are "safe" and not the optimal values for any system.

    The 266 settings are only used if you're running your memory at 533MHz speeds. With your current system memory multiplier, you're running your memory at 2 x 533 or 1066 speeds.

    Your ET6 screen-shot verifies that you are using 1.24 volts for the MCH Core setting and this matches your most recent partial bios post. Increase MCH Core to 1.26 volts and test again.
    Have you tested with MCH Core = 1.22 volts?

    A quick way to perform a single test in Memtest86+ is:
    press the "c' key
    press the "1" key
    press the "3" key
    press the "5" key (this is to run the #5 test only)
    press the ENTER key
    press the "0" (zero) key to start the test

    I suggest running 10 or more loops of the #5 test. On some occasions, my first #5 error didn't occur until after the 6th or 8th loop.

    The selected test will now run indefinitely, until the ESC key is pressed or you can repeat the sequence above to repeatedly run one of the other tests. Pressing C and then 7 will restart the standard Memtest86+ series of all 8 tests.
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    Default Re: Q6600 and EP45 UD3P mild overclock problem

    Sorry about the abbreviated BIOS settings...all the stuff I left off were AUTO settings.

    I've tried 1.2, 1.24, and 1.26 on the MCH but not 1.22. Is it really that finicky? But could be the magic number, I guess.

    OK...latest update. I reset optimized defaults and lowered my multiplier to 3.0A to get 800mhz (PC2-6400) and ran 6 passes of that &^%$ #5 test on memtest 86+ with no problems (a first). It ain't much but it's a start. I'll be back at it this afternoon.

    Again, thanks for all your help and suggestions.

    Thanks to you guys, I've learned a huge amount. I went back and reread LSDs memory tutorial last night and it all started making sense. First time I tried reading it (a couple weeks ago) my eyes sort of glazed over it was so beyond my understanding. Still over my head but I feel like I'm getting somewhere. This forum is pretty terriffic, I gotta say.
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    I'm about to throw in the towel. I tried everything I could think of...all the voltages on MCH from 1.2 to 1.32...driving strength from 800mhz up to 1200OC all the static read settings from 8 to 11...even went to the 333mhz strap and overclocked the CPU a little. Nothing but nothing seems to make these puppies want to pass the *&^% #5 test in memtest 86+. On the other hand they run solid as a rock as soon as I give up on trying to run em at 1066 and go to 800.
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    Quote Originally Posted by w1awb View Post
    Now this is weird...some of the settings that show up in Memset are nothing like the ones I have set in the BIOS.
    Known issue. On my board, tWTR is 8 higher in Memset than BIOS, tWR 8, and tRTP 3. Some posts have slightly different values than mine.
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    Default Re: Q6600 and EP45 UD3P mild overclock problem

    Capt Proton is 100% correct.

    I think it's mentioned somewhere in this thread, though I don't know precisely which page: New Memory Tweaker for Intel Chipsets - XtremeSystems Forums. Interesting reading none the less.

    If your RAM does test OK at DDR-800, maybe consider contacting Mushkin and seeing about a possible RMA. They should run as rated, although it may be that they're fine and the board doesn't like them at DDR-1066. It would be good to find out, even if real-world performance between 800 and 1066 isn't huge.
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    Default Re: Q6600 and EP45 UD3P mild overclock problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Capt Proton View Post
    Known issue. On my board, tWTR is 8 higher in Memset than BIOS, tWR 8, and tRTP 3. Some posts have slightly different values than mine.
    Now here's a stupid question: what do I go by? The tRTP, for instance, seems to read 2 higher than set. If I'm supposed to set at 6 to I put in 4? And what about that tWTR that reads 8 higher? What do you do with that?

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    Default Re: Q6600 and EP45 UD3P mild overclock problem

    It really doesn't matter.

    Pay attention to the settings in the advanced memory timings part of the BIOS. Adjust those down one value at a time one by one while remaining stable. You're after the lowest memory timings. It doesn't matter in the slightest if the values end up looking different in Memset.

    Start by setting the advanced timings to 4-4-8-68-4 and tighten them up from there.

    You don't really need to know what to set in Memset that matches settings in the BIOS, because you shouldn't be altering timings in Memset. Always use the BIOS. Memset is just handy for observing what [Auto] settings are at.
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    Default Re: Q6600 and EP45 UD3P mild overclock problem

    Changing any settings in MemSet immediately crashes my computer so I don't do that. An early lesson. I'm still confused. What's the bogus reading? The MemSet one or the one I'm putting in? Also...should I be setting the MCH latch frequency to something other than auto? I'm gonna at least try to get up to 960. Really don't want to RMA this memory.
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    Default Re: Q6600 and EP45 UD3P mild overclock problem

    It's not an error in Memset, some values are +2 or +8 higher than the settings in the bios.
    Lsdme covers this briefly in his memory tweaking guide.
    As Psycho101 said don't worry about, it's a non-issue. Confusing? Yes. Problem? No.
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