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    Default 450FSB problems with Crucial Balistic

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    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P (Rev. 1.1) - F9
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    ******************************
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) 
    ******************************
    Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [Fast]
    CPU Clock Ratio ......................: [7X]
    x Fine CPU Clock Ratio................: +0.0
    CPU Frequency ........................: 3.15GHz( 450x7)
    
    ********** Clock Chip Control ********
    
    >>>>>  Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control................: [Enabled]
    x CPU Host Frequency(Mhz).............: [450]
    PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)............: [100]
    C.I.A.2...............................: [Disabled]
    
    >>>>> Advanced Clock Control..........: [Press Enter] 
    CPU Clock Drive.......................: [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive...............: [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew........................: [  0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew........................: [  0ps]
    
    ******** DRAM Performance Control ********
    
    Performance Enhance...................: [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile(X.M.P.)........: [Disabled]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........: [2.00D]
    Memory Frequency(Mhz).....800.........: 900
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [Manual]
    
    >>>>> Standard Timing Control
    x CAS Latency Time................5...: [ 5]
    x tRCD ...........................5...: [ 4]
    x tRP.............................5...: [ 4]
    x tRAS...........................18...: [12]
    
    >>>>> Advanced Timing Control.........: [Press Enter] 
    x tRRD............................3...: [ 3]
    x tWTR............................3...: [ 3]
    x tWR.............................6...: [ 6]
    x tRFC...........................52...: [52]
    x tRTP............................3...: [ 3]
    x Command Rate (CMD) .............0...: [ 2]
    
    >>>>> Channel A Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter] 
    x Static tRead Value.............11...: [ 9]
    x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    
    x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
    x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto
    
    x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
    
    >>>>> Channel A Driving Settings......: [Press Enter] 
    x Driving Strength Profile............: [1066MHz]
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto
    
    >>>>> Channel B Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter] 
    x Static tRead Value.............11...: [ 9]
    x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    
    x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
    x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto
    
    x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
    
    >>>>> Channel B Driving Settings......: [Press Enter] 
    x Driving Strength Profile............: [1066MHz]
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto
    
    x Data Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Cmd Driving Pull-Down level.........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Down Level.........: Auto
    
    ****** Motherboard Voltage Control ******
    
    Voltage Types..........Normal...........Current
    -----------------------------------------------
    >>> CPU
    Load-Line Calibration.................: [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore..............1.27500V.......: [1.2500V]
    CPU Termination........1.200V.........: [1.200V]
    CPU PLL................1.500V.........: [1.500V]
    CPU Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.760V]
    >>> MCH/ICH
    MCH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.260V]
    MCH Reference..........0.760V.........: [0.760V]
    MCH/DRAM Reference.....0.900V.........: [0.910V]
    ICH I/O................1.500V.........: [1.570V]
    ICH Core...............1.100V.........: [1.200V]
    >>> DRAM
    DRAM Voltage...........1.800V.........: [2.080V]
    DRAM Termination.......0.900V.........: [Auto]
    Channel A Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]
    Channel B Reference....0.900V.........: [Auto]
    
    ******** Advanced BIOS Features ********
    Hard Disk Boot Priority...............: [Press Enter]
    First Boot Device.....................: [USB-HDD]
    Second Boot Device....................: [Hard Disk]
    Third Boot Device.....................: [CDROM]
    Password Check........................: [Setup]
    HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability.............: [Enabled]
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect.............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)...............: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support................:  Disabled
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.....................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology.............: [Disabled]
    Delay For HDD (Secs)..................: [ 0]
    Full Screen LOGO Show.................: [Disabled]
    Init Display First....................: [PEG]
    
    ******** Integrated Peripherals ********
    USB Keyboard Function.................: [Enabled]
    USB Mouse Function....................: [Enabled]
    USB Storage Function..................: [Disabled]
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    Lsdmeasap in his review of the Crucial Ballistic PC6400 2x2G memory said he could get 450FSB with 4-4-4-12
    and a tRD of 8. What am I doing wrong? I can only get stable with a 5-4-4-12 and a tRD of 9.

    thanks

    -devoh
    Last edited by devoh; 05-22-2009 at 07:52 AM.
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    Default Re: 450FSB problems with Crucial Balistic

    Even with identical hardware and bios setups, there will usually be minor variations.

    Lsdme states:
    2x2GB

    444-12 tRD 8 with the 2x2GB also tested and is fine. I just cannot find my image of the HCI test. All settings were tested in Memtest86+ as well as said above. This was a initial test but I found them to be fine at 444-12 as well (Adjusted MCH Ref Voltages after this run, .76 % was too much, my motherboard/CPU needed .70 to run these 2x2GB at 900Mhz 444-12 tRD 8)
    He was probably using the 2.00B System Memory Multiplier which should allow tRD = 8 at 450MHz.

    A quick scan of both of bios templates shows some differences in the Reference Volt settings.

    You might be able to achieve similar results by lowering your cpu speed to 440MHz, testing, and then increasing your cpu speed in small increments.

    In the this post, you stated that you had problems when using the 2.00B multiplier.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
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    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
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    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
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    Default Re: 450FSB problems with Crucial Balistic

    I can't get 44412 to even boot currently but 54412 is fine so I feel your pain.

    Going to work some more on it tonight so I will keep you posted...
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    Default Re: 450FSB problems with Crucial Balistic

    FWIW, my P35-DS3L runs 4 sticks of Crucial Ballistix (2.2 volt) memory with 4-4-4-10 primary settings at 875MHz memory speeds.

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    E2140, 75% o/c = 2.8GHz
    cpu clock = 350MHz
    tRD = 5
    3GB ram: 2x1GB PC2-6400 + 2x512MB PC2-6400 memory.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
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    Default Re: 450FSB problems with Crucial Balistic

    My own 6400 memory
    epp 800 mhz 4-4-4-12 1.8-1.9v
    will run 450mhz at those timings at 2.1v.(B multiplier)
    It will go a little higher at 4-4-4-12 but not much.

    Customer experiences with the memory (from newegg) vary from 880mhz-910mhz maximum at cas4.
    It doesnt worry me too much tho because after 460 cpu ref the performance drop switching to cas 5 is outweighed by the increased memory speed.
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    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

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