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    Default EP45-UD3R: need bios help

    Ep34-ud3r ver 1.1 F4 mobo
    9500gt 1gb ddr2 video card
    OCZ reaper 2g ddr2 1066mhz 2.1v (4 sticks= 8g)
    Intel core quad Q9550 @ 2.83mhz
    Window Vista 64bit ultimate

    ive updated mobo. mem voltage at 2.01 1066mhz. It runs fine at with 2X2g of mem. When i put all 4 stick in, windows becomes unstable. After couple minutes, i get the blue screen of death. after reboot, it says i have problem with hardware or a problem has occurred in windows. Ive done memory test and all checks fine. I even swapped out the original 2 sticks with the other 2 sticks and it still runs stable with no problem. This mobo suppose to support up to 16g and i cant even get more than 4g to work. Ive been reading forums and people say the bios needs to be set up correctly but i cant find the problem. Can anyone post a setup for me. Im not a computer genuis but i can follow simple instructions. Ive tried adjusting the voltage down to 1.2 and speed to 800mhz but still no luck. This has fustrated me for 2 months now and gigabyte tech support is no help. Please help!
    Last edited by pool4eva; 06-01-2009 at 09:54 AM.

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R: need bios help

    We would need more info than that.
    Copy this, paste it into Notepad. Run ET6 and Memset and fill out the values. What you can't get from there, get from your BIOS with pen and paper and then add it to this and post it here.
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................:
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:
    CPU Frequency ...........................:


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (FSB)(Mhz) ............: 400 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................:
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....:
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............:
    System Memory Multiplier ..............:
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............:
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................:

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time.......................
    tRCD ........................................
    tRP...........................................
    tRAS.........................................


    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................
    tWTR..........................................
    tWR............................................
    tRFC...........................................
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ...................


    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................


    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….………................................:
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*...............:
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*...............:
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*...............:


    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........:
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V............:
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V..............:
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............:
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V...........:

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............:
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: .9
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: .9
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: .9
    In ET6, go to the Advanced Tab of the Tuner menu, then click the voltages tab.
    Here is a link for Memset Save the zip file, extract it to a folder in Program Files, then run it.

    I am assuming that the UD3R BIOS is the same as the UD3P BIOS, if not, then I am sorry...
    Last edited by grishkafool; 06-01-2009 at 10:19 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex St. John
    Consider for a moment that what we think of as “intelligence” is the byproduct of a computing architecture that depends on massive parallelism to interact with the world in real time without stalling for progress bars. If our ancestors’ brains had depended on running Vista on current dual-core processors for their survival, they would have been eaten by bears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho101
    Obey the one and only rule without question when you overclock.... don't cause a fire. Fires are hot and burny... not good.
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R: need bios help

    2 months is looong.
    Aside from the usual disclaimers of .. buy a matched 4 stick set ..or see if the memory is certified for your mbrd.

    I ran a set of value ram 5300 samsung with my 6400 gskills loaded optimum defaults ..everything on auto then put in the 4 sticks.. it went to around 350 mhz 700mhz on the 8 gig which is about what you would expect.
    Ie the bios dumbed down my 800mhz memory.


    Check the profiles on your ram if theres a 333mhz profile on it enter those settings for 2 sticks turn it off then reboot.
    Or just enter standard 333mhz timings + volts(1.84) for 2 sticks save n then turn off n put in 4.

    If it works ok u can save the settings n gradually work up from there.
    Or possibly upgrade bios?
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R: need bios help

    Oh, in Memset, Write to Precharge Delayed = tWR.
    All Precharge to Activate = Not in your BIOS/Auto
    All Precharge to Refresh Delay = Not in your BIOS/Auto
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex St. John
    Consider for a moment that what we think of as “intelligence” is the byproduct of a computing architecture that depends on massive parallelism to interact with the world in real time without stalling for progress bars. If our ancestors’ brains had depended on running Vista on current dual-core processors for their survival, they would have been eaten by bears.

    Best Quote Ever...
    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho101
    Obey the one and only rule without question when you overclock.... don't cause a fire. Fires are hot and burny... not good.
    Intel E8400 EO@445x9--Gigabyte EP45-UD3P v1.1 ~ F9--EVGA 9800GT @ 700/1750/1100--8GB Gskill 1066

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R: need bios help

    still no luck everyone.. ive already tried what KICK suggested. GRSIHKAFOOL, im a newbie so is the memset in bios? My friend help me build this computer but cant help with the settings.

    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8X
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:+.5
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.83Ghz (333X8.5)


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [DISABLED]
    CPU Host Frequency (FSB)(Mhz) ............: 333 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: AUTO


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: TURBO
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: AUTO
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: AUTO
    System Memory Multiplier ......(SPD): AUTO
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable .......(SPD).: AUTO

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time....................... 5
    tRCD ........................................ 5
    tRP........................................... 5
    tRAS......................................... 15


    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD........................................... 4 AUTO
    tWTR.......................................... 4 AUTO
    tWR............................................ 6 AUTO
    tRFC........................................... 72 AUTO
    tRTP........................................... 4 AUTO
    Command Rate (CMD) ................... 0 AUTO


    Channel A
    Static tRead Value......................... 6 AUTO
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value......................... 6 AUTO


    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Load-Line Calibration ...........................: (DISABLED)
    CPU Vcore….……….......1.3750V..............: AUTO
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*...............: AUTO
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*...............: AUTO
    CPU Referen.…………....0.760V*...............: AUTO


    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: AUTO
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V............: AUTO
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V..............: AUTO
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: AUTO
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V...........: AUTO

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.100v
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: AUTO
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: AUTO
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: AUTO

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R: need bios help

    Memset is a program that lets you see your Memory Timings on your Desktop.
    Here is a location for a zip of it. You can actually use it like ET6 to make small changes on the fly to your memory timings (ET6 can make small changes to your voltages); when you use it for that you can click Apply, BUT NEVER CLICK SAVE

    Anyway...
    First I think you should try the following:
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: TURBO <------Set to Standard
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: AUTO
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: AUTO
    System Memory Multiplier ......(SPD): AUTO
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable .......(SPD).: AUTO
    Then launch Easy Tune 6* and record the actual values for:
    CPU Vcore….……….......1.3750V..............: AUTO
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*...............: AUTO
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*...............: AUTO
    CPU Referen.…………....0.760V*...............: AUTO


    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: AUTO
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V............: AUTO
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V..............: AUTO
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: AUTO
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V...........: AUTO

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.100v
    To find them in ET6 click "Tuner" tab, then click "Advanced" tab, then click "Voltages" tab. Your BIOS is set to Auto, but ET6 will show the actual voltages that are being used. Essentially, you are saying that you can put any two RAM cards in either Channel 1 or Channel 2 DIMMs and everything works fine; but when you populate both Channel 1 and Channel 2 DIMMs, you get a BSOD....

    What it could be is that the AUTO setting for MCH Core might be using too little volts for 8GB of RAM. But we don't want to change anything till we know what the actual number is...

    *I am assuming that you have ET6 installed on your machine. It came on the Disk with your Motherboard and you definitely want to install it if you haven't already.

    Ok, let us know what you find.
    Last edited by grishkafool; 06-04-2009 at 09:00 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex St. John
    Consider for a moment that what we think of as “intelligence” is the byproduct of a computing architecture that depends on massive parallelism to interact with the world in real time without stalling for progress bars. If our ancestors’ brains had depended on running Vista on current dual-core processors for their survival, they would have been eaten by bears.

    Best Quote Ever...
    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho101
    Obey the one and only rule without question when you overclock.... don't cause a fire. Fires are hot and burny... not good.
    Intel E8400 EO@445x9--Gigabyte EP45-UD3P v1.1 ~ F9--EVGA 9800GT @ 700/1750/1100--8GB Gskill 1066

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R: need bios help

    Ive ran the ET6 and this is what i got.


    CPU Vcore….……….......1.3750V..............: 1.13750V
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*...............: 1.20000V
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*...............: 1.50000V
    CPU Referen.…………....0.760V*...............: .76000V


    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.1000V
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V............: .76000V
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V..............: .90000V
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: 1.50000V
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V...........: 1.10000V

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.1000v
    DRAM Termination..... .900V ...........: .90000V
    Channel A Reference... .900V .........: .90000V
    Channel B Reference... .900V .........: .90000V

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R: need bios help

    Two things I see that might be problems.
    CPU Vcore….……….......1.3750V..............: 1.13750V
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*...............: 1.20000V
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*...............: 1.50000V
    CPU Referen.…………....0.760V*...............: .76000V


    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.1000V
    Your CPU Vcore-- you typed a 1.1375, is this a typo? If not, then that is a problem. It is too low. And the default value of 1.375 is too high according to Intel, they show 85V – 1.3625V as the nominal range.

    Also, I think that MCH Core 1.1v is probably a tad low. Nudge this to 1.2v and get your vCore fixed and see what happens.

    Performance Enhance...................: TURBO
    Did you change this to Standard?

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value......................... 6 AUTO
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value......................... 6 AUTO
    Oh, this is definitely too low for 8GB of RAM, change these to 11 and see what happens.
    Last edited by grishkafool; 06-08-2009 at 07:18 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex St. John
    Consider for a moment that what we think of as “intelligence” is the byproduct of a computing architecture that depends on massive parallelism to interact with the world in real time without stalling for progress bars. If our ancestors’ brains had depended on running Vista on current dual-core processors for their survival, they would have been eaten by bears.

    Best Quote Ever...
    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho101
    Obey the one and only rule without question when you overclock.... don't cause a fire. Fires are hot and burny... not good.
    Intel E8400 EO@445x9--Gigabyte EP45-UD3P v1.1 ~ F9--EVGA 9800GT @ 700/1750/1100--8GB Gskill 1066

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R: need bios help

    Some of the Memset displayed values differ from the settings in the bios:

    Taken from Lsdmeasap's guide:

    * ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)________________ 3-4
    * Rank Write to READ Delay (tWTR)_______ (4-6) 9-11 (Note Actual Value set in BIOS Vs. What system Uses will be 7+)
    * Write to Precharge Delay (tWR)_________ 3-5 (Note Actual Value set in BIOS Vs. What system Uses will be 5+)
    * Refresh to ACT Delay (tRFC)___________ 38-42 (2X1GB) 52-62+ (2x2GB)
    * Read to Precharge Delay (tRTP)_________ 3-6 (Note Actual Value set in BIOS Vs. What system Uses will be 2+)
    * Static tRead Value (tRD)______________ (5/6) 7-10 (800Mhz) 7-12 (1066Mhz)
    * Static tRead Phase Adjust______________ 1-31*


    The full version is here: Memory Timings Explained W/ Suggested Timings & Memset VS. BIOS
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3R: need bios help

    His CPU Vcore is fine as it is. It's not uncommon for E0 quad cores to have VIDs that low. To verify you can run CoreTemp, it will show the VID programmed into your specific CPU.

    Try the following settings, with particular emphasis on disabling XMP (useless), setting performance enhance to Standard, MCH voltage changes and advanced timings lossened (including tRead).

    Code:
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8X
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:+.5
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.83Ghz (333X8.5)
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
    CPU Host Frequency (FSB)(Mhz) ............: 333 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: Standard
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: AUTO
    System Memory Multiplier ......(SPD): 3.20B
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable .......(SPD).: Manual
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time....................... 5
    tRCD ........................................ 5
    tRP........................................... 5
    tRAS......................................... 15
    
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD........................................... 4
    tWTR.......................................... 4 AUTO
    tWR............................................ 9
    tRFC........................................... 78
    tRTP........................................... 4 AUTO
    Command Rate (CMD) ................... 2
    
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value......................... 7
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value......................... 7
    
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Load-Line Calibration ...........................: (DISABLED)
    CPU Vcore….……….......1.3750V..............: AUTO
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*...............: 1.200V
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*...............: 1.500V
    CPU Referen.…………....0.760V*...............: AUTO
    
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.240V
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V............: AUTO
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V..............: AUTO
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: AUTO
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V...........: AUTO
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.100v
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: AUTO
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: AUTO
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: AUTO
    You may be able to lower Static tRead later but try that for now.

    Don't worry too much about Memset, and what the values mean. The advanced settings in the BIOS are all you really need to know, and that bigger numbers can give more stability.
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