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    Default E8400 to 4.6GHz - EP45-UD3P

    I have 9 X 500MHz stable, but am having trouble moving to 9 X 512MHz (4.6GHz). With settings below I have run 10 loops of Intel Burn Test set on Maximum at 512MHz for FSB, with CPU at 8 X 512 for 4.096GHz. If I rasie my CPU multi to 9 for 4.6GHz, adn raise my CPU Voltage to 4.225 in Bios, 3.9V in Windows, it crashes in IBT. Shuts down completely and reboots with the Error message telling me that Windows has recovered from a fatal error. Looking for opinions as to wheter it is my CPU failing, in which case I will add some voltage to it, or could it be the memory or MCH failing with the added strain of the CPU flying at 4.6GHz?

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    Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [A]
    CPU Clock Ratio ......................: [8X]
    x Fine CPU Clock Ratio................: +0.0
    CPU Frequency ........................: 4.096GHz( 512X8)
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    PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)............: [100]
    C.I.A.2...............................: [Disabled]
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    >>>>> Advanced Clock Control..........: [Press Enter]
    <st1:street><st1:address>CPU Clock Drive</st1:address></st1:street>.......................: [800mV]
    <st1:street><st1:address>PCI Express Clock Drive</st1:address></st1:street>...............: [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew........................: [ 0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew........................: [ 0ps]
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    Extreme <st1:personname>Me</st1:personname>mory Profile(X.M.P.)........: [Disabled]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto]
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    <st1:personname>Me</st1:personname>mory Frequency(Mhz).....800.........: 1024
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    x CAS Latency Time................5...: [ 5]
    x tRCD ...........................5...: [ 5]
    x tRP.............................5...: [ 5]
    x tRAS...........................18...: [15]
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    x tRRD............................3...: [ 3]
    x tWTR............................3...: [ 3 (11 in Windows)]
    x tWR.............................6...: [ 5 (14 in Windows)]
    x tRFC...........................52...: [54]
    x tRTP............................3...: [ 1 (4 in Windows)]
    x Command Rate (CMD) .............0...: [ 2]
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    >>>>> Channel A Timing Settings.......: [Press Enter]
    x Static tRead Value.............10...: [11]
    x tRD Phase0 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase1 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase2 Adjustment ..........0...: Auto
    x tRD Phase3 Adjustment...........0...: Auto
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    x Trd2rd(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2wr(Different Rank)..........6...: Auto
    x Twr2rd(Different Rank)..........5...: Auto
    x Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..........8...: Auto
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    x DIMM1 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DIMM2 Clock Skew Control (ps).......: Auto
    x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
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    x DDR Write Training..................: Auto
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    x Cmd Driving Pull-Up level...........: Auto
    x Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level..........: Auto
    x Clk Driving Pull-Up Level...........: Auto
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    CPU Termination........1.200V.........: [1.300V]
    CPU PLL................1.500V.........: [1.65V]
    CPU Reference..........0.760V.........: [.76 (.7 when VTT is 1.2)]
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    Channel A Reference....0.900V.........: [1.05]
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    CPU EIST Function.....................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology.............: [Disabled]
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    Default Re: E8400 to 4.6GHz - EP45-UD3P

    You say CPU Flying @ 4.6Ghz Id say Frying. Lol. Im really not sure if that chip is gunna take anymore than what your giving it. So your running your vcore at what now?? 1.4v up from 1.25v? I think you have done pretty well getting the E8400 to were it is. If you want it to last a while id consider not pushing it harder. That Thermochill looks like a Automatic Transmission Oil cooler. lol
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    Default Re: E8400 to 4.6GHz - EP45-UD3P

    On one side you have a point, the percentage of chips that hit 4.5GHz is not that huge. However, there are plenty that do, and plenty that go further. I am planning that mine will be one of them.
    Frying? Hardly. First of all, 1.4V in BIOS and 1.38 in Windows isn't that much. 1.4225V in BIOS and 1.39V in Windows under load is getting a little high, but, I have not seen any what I would call proof that this is too high. For every anecdotal "evidence" of degradation, I can show you someone else running just as high without issue. Second, I am on water, and my temps in IBT do not go past 59-60C.
    Lastly, if a transmission oil cooler was as effective in maintaining good temps as a TC PA120.2, then I would say buy it.
    Thanks for your input, but, I have no concerns about heat or degradation. Worse comes to worse, I would have an excuse to get a new quad.
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    Default Re: E8400 to 4.6GHz - EP45-UD3P

    Have you tried it with the advance memory timings relaxed a little, might help?
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    Ah Yes, the Frying comment was made after i read this. vv.
    Quote Originally Posted by Capt Proton View Post
    If I rasie my CPU multi to 9 for 4.6GHz, adn raise my CPU Voltage to 4.225 in Bios, 3.9V in Windows.
    I then deleted whatelse I wrote after I read down further. I should really proof read my posts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Capt Proton View Post
    Worse comes to worse, I would have an excuse to get a new quad.
    LOL Thats the way. Love your thinking.
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    Default Re: E8400 to 4.6GHz - EP45-UD3P

    Oh P.S Do you like Star Trek Voyager?
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    Default Re: E8400 to 4.6GHz - EP45-UD3P

    Quote Originally Posted by D-an-W View Post
    Have you tried it with the advance memory timings relaxed a little, might help?
    But, if it passes 10 loops of IBT with the only difference being the CPU Multi down, does that not point to the CPU?
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    Default Re: E8400 to 4.6GHz - EP45-UD3P

    Reference voltages set seem to have served you well so far. MCH ref is the usual 1-2 ticks lower that I'd expect to get a stable 3.8GHz + Dual Core OC, so that's not the issue.

    Settings I would tinker with, in order would be CPU Ref, VTT then Vcore as a last resort. However I'm leaning toward thinking it needs more Vcore. Even on water, there's going to come a point where your chip will stop scaling well with voltage, and you'll need to give it a big bump up for little speed increase.

    Trying CPU ref one to two notches higher could be useful, and has been known to aid in reducing Vcore requirements. I haven't seen any magic "instant stability" effects with CPU ref, like I have with MCH ref, but it's worth trying. VTT can also be a major help in either reducing Vcore and/or stablising a system. Worth noting though that your nicely adjusted Ref volts might need re-tuning if you change it. I've found it's not just about the % VTT and sometimes a significant change in VTT requires a GTL re-think.

    As you're on water, as long as temps are still good I'd personally have no problem going to at least 1.45V (in Windows) with LLC on.

    I don't personally think RAM timings are to blame either. However it can be MCH related, even if instability arises from kicking up the multiplier. Your BUS could be stable enough to hold a conversation with a 4.5GHz CPU, but 4.6GHz may be too much for it.
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