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    Default Re: Newb needs help

    Additional note:
    You'll probably have the best results using the 4.00B system memory multiplier.
    The 4.00A and 4.00C system memory multipliers might not boot or might cause instability for your system.
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    Default Re: Newb needs help

    this was going to be my next question. thank you for reading my mind and saving us time.
    i am going to leave this thing at 400 9X for 3.60MHz and ram at 1600 and run it to see where it stands as far as being proper.

    anyone have any other suggested settings not mentioned already?

    also, does windows vista recognize cpu over 3.6? meaning as in what it shows when right clicking on my computer icon then properties.

    last also, cant help but notice while watching cpuid info cpu freq lowers during idle. what controls this? windows? bios? just curious

    thanks to all who have helped so far. i feel much better about money spent. i gained 15fps in GTA IV compared to auto settings.

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    Aye, GTA is sensative to RAm bandwidth more than timings, but both being optimum is always best.

    The mechanism changing your multiplier to 6 at idle is Intel Speedstep. You can disable it in the BIOS by disabling C1E and EIST in the Advanced BIOS Features section. I recommend you leave it on though. Any time the CPU is being used intensely such as when you play GTA, it will restore the multiplier to 9.

    Windows does have issues with CPU speeds in some instances. Currently I have an E7400 clocked to 3.8GHz and Windows 7 insists it's running at 4.44GHz.... I wish! seems it's using my current FSB of 423 and timesing it by the default multiplier of 10.5, rather than the 9 multi I have set. Nothing to worry about though, it's just Windoze being thick.

    Glad you got some real world performance out of it, and I hope it makes you a better violent pimping, drug and gun running bad ass (in game of course!).
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    Psycho101 You are indeed right in saying windows is using the default Multiplier and times it by the FSB. On my Sig system when I was running it @ 9X400=3.6Ghz to "Warm up" My CPU bindows told me in that screen that it was 3.8Ghz. Also what individual Scores do you get for windows Experience Index. My Sig system has an experience rating of 5.9 @ stock CPU Speeds. I think my HDD is the only thing holding it back.
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    Same for me. My HDD scores 5.9, so it holds the rest back.
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    well, i give up. i cant get this thing to perform right. doesnt matter how i try to acheive 1600, it acts the same.
    seems like some settings arent actually being implemented such as cpu volts and dram volts. for example...i can save bios dram @ 1.9V but it shows up in cpuid and sisoft sandra as ~1.2V ??? dont understand this. seems that no matter what i adjust it to it still reads the same by these programs. whats up with that? the only way to get it nice is to leave it alone at 1066. timings arent near 7-7-7-24, more like 8-9-9-19. voltage difference? this is above my skill set.
    it ran beautifully (hence my post on 06-08-2009, 02:32 PM) that evening. the next day it wouldnt boot. went back to optimized defaults...still wouldnt boot. cleared cmos and loaded defaults and its weird now. farcry2 wont run fullscreen although GTAIV does. performance is way down. what have i done? bios seems glitchy. guess i will just start over.

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    Re-load optimised defaults and enter the values again.

    There's no way your RAM voltage is at 1.2V, it likely wouldn't work at any speed with such a low voltage. To find out your RAMs exact voltage look in the PC Health section of the BIOS. Don't trust software utilities to show voltages. According to SpeedFan, my 12V supply is running at 0.64V, which is just not possible. Also as far as I know CPUID (CPU-Z) doesn't show DRAM voltage.

    Far Cry running in windowed mode will have nothing to do with any settings in the BIOS. To restore it to full screen, select the window and press [ALT] + [ENTER].
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    i dont know what was going on. have been on state medevac flood duty for a few weeks now averaging around 3-4 hrs of sleep a night. my brain hasnt been working so well.

    this whole mess has been my fault due to me not doing enough research before purchasing components. this motherboard claims to support dram ocing up to like 2200. after careful review it only makes those claims with single sided sticks, all others it says to "downgrade to 1333".

    called gigabyte tech support and they of course pointed fingers at dram manufacturers. dram manufacturer points finger at board maker. yadayada....
    info was right there in front of me the whole time i just overlooked it. AAHHH!

    i certainly made a mess of this one. sticking with stock 3.0ghz and 1.9V 7-7-7-24 multiplier of 4 @ 333 for 1333 for that is what seems best. i get a little tearing here and there, not sure what to do with that. just nitpicking really.

    maybe later i wiil try to run around 3.6ghz with lower dram multiplier to stay around 1333 for i did see some benefit with the cpu up a bit. maybe i am just asking for trouble. flying out in the morning for a short deployment excercise lasting a few weeks so i will have some time to dwell on it.

    thanks again for all input. does anyone know how to overclock my HH60?

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    I spent some time at the OCZ forum and was amazed at the number of issues with ddr3 memory. This isn't knocking OCZ, just that running higher speed ddr3 memory on some mobos can be troublesome.

    I'll get back to you by Sunday night with some possible solutions.

    BTW, the GB memory QVL is not the last word on compatible memory, it only includes the limited subset of memory that they've tested with for each mobo model. Every QVL list contains a sentence at the top of the list that basically says "these are the only modules that we've tested with that work and we can't test every model of memory with every mobo."
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    The tearing in your games has to do with the way your GFX card and your monitor work together. If the framerate of a game isn't synchronised with the monitor's refresh rate, it causes slight tring. This is because the monitor is refreshing and displaying several frames drawn by the card. For example the top 1/4 of the screen could be displaying frame 1, the middle 2/4 displaying frame 3 and the last quater frame 5. This makes the image appear torn.

    You can eliminate this by enabling Vsync in games. The advantage is that tearing is completely eliminated. The GFX card if forced to wait for the monitor to signal for another frame. Eg for a 60Hz refresh rate (most LCD's) your frame rate will be locked to 60 FPS.

    There is one drawback though. Enabling Vsync leads to a drop in over all performance. If your card can't produce 60 FPS in a game, like if the frame rate dips in GTA4, then Vsync drops down to the next available synchronous rate, which is 45 FPS, then 30 FPS and then 15 FPS. Performance is lost because the GFX card is waiting around with both frame buffers full, and computational time is lost while it does nothing.

    You can enable Tripple Buffering which helps boost you back to 60 FPS if you're falling a little short and dropping to 45 FPS with Vsync. |Tripple buffering creates an extra frame buffer, meaning the GFX card can work on three frames at once, and keep itself busy, and your frame rate smoother.

    Another annoyance is that some games don't come with a Tripple Buffering option in their menu, and ATI & Nvidia only support forcing Triple Buffering in OpenGL, not DirectX. You can get round this using a program called D3DOverrider. The program comes with Rivatuner and lets you force Triple Buffering and Vsync in almost any game.
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