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    Default Re: E8400 and UD3R help to 4ghz

    CoreTemp shows it but mine is the same as displayed in the BIOS to the left of the actual setting...
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    Default Re: E8400 and UD3R help to 4ghz

    Fingers crossed for stability. Make sure to test for a minimum of 8 hours, and it's unlikely you'll see any real world instability if 8 hours passes.

    To see your unique VID download and run a copy of CoreTemp. There is an image atatched to this post showing my E7400, temps are during Prime Large FFT. I think it had been running for several hours (8 I think) when I took this shot. Cropped to just show Coretemp. My VID is on the high side for an E7400 as I've seen some of the same stepping with ~1.13V VIDs. Didn't stop me getting 3.9GHz though.
    Coolermaster CM 690 II advance Case
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    P55A-UD4 v2.0 @ F14
    Core i5 760 @ 20 x 201, 4.02GHz
    TRUE Black with a single Noctua NF-P12 pumping out 55 CFM @ 19db .
    2 x 2GB Mushkin Ridgeback (996902), @ 7-10-8-27, 2010-DDR, 1.66v
    2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 1024MB in SLI (Pre OC'd to 715MHz core and 1800MHz VRAM) @ 850 Core / 4100 Mem.
    Intel X25-M Boot Drive (OS and Programs) 200MB/s Read & 90MB/s Write
    Corsair X32 200MB/s Read & 100MB/s Write
    WD Caviar Blue 640GB C (Steam, Games, Storage, Temp Files & Folders, etc)
    Samsung F3 500GB Backup/Images
    Noctua 1300RPM 19dB case fan (rear extraction)
    3 x 140 MM Coolermaster LED fans (one front intake, one top extraction, one side intake)
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    Still stable.. holding out hope.

    Is there a particularly good way to test "real world" benefits of the overclock? 3dMark06 shows a significant improvement. Then I ran that Streetfighter IV benchmark tool and I actually got a drop in FPS (very slight.. like <1 frame drop so I call it pretty much even). How do I know exactly how much benefit I'm getting out of this? Temps are up 3-5 degrees and fans are louder so I want to make sure this is worth it..

    My VID is apparently 1.25v, which was what the motherboard was defaulting it to in BIOS as well.
    Last edited by Callistra; 06-22-2009 at 03:59 AM.

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    The SF4 benchmark is more GFX dependant than CPU dependant. The 1FPS loss you experienced is within the margin of error. Running it again may give you a +/- 2FPS or so difference. With everything maxed out completely and 8X AA I get around 82FPS average at both stock 2.8GHz and at 3.9GHz. Minimum frame rate is improved at the higher clock rate though.

    Far Cry 2's benchmarking tool is an excellent way to judge system changes. I see improvements in FPS even going from 3.4GHz to 3.9GHz, though not as dramatic as the jump in FPS from 2.8GHz to 3.4GHz.

    If you don't have a copy of Far Cry 2, Crysis has a CPU and a GPU benchmark too. I've used the Devil May Cry 4 demo benchmark too, but it uses the same engine as SF4, and is GFX limited for the most part.

    With my experience as far as my HD4850 goes, a clock speed of 3.4GHz and higher eliminates the CPU as a bottle neck in all but the most CPU intensive games (Flight Simulator X, GTA4, World of Warcraft etc can always benefit from more CPU power, IME).
    Coolermaster CM 690 II advance Case
    Corsair HX750 (CWT, 91%(80+ Gold rated @230V) single 62A 12V rail
    P55A-UD4 v2.0 @ F14
    Core i5 760 @ 20 x 201, 4.02GHz
    TRUE Black with a single Noctua NF-P12 pumping out 55 CFM @ 19db .
    2 x 2GB Mushkin Ridgeback (996902), @ 7-10-8-27, 2010-DDR, 1.66v
    2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 1024MB in SLI (Pre OC'd to 715MHz core and 1800MHz VRAM) @ 850 Core / 4100 Mem.
    Intel X25-M Boot Drive (OS and Programs) 200MB/s Read & 90MB/s Write
    Corsair X32 200MB/s Read & 100MB/s Write
    WD Caviar Blue 640GB C (Steam, Games, Storage, Temp Files & Folders, etc)
    Samsung F3 500GB Backup/Images
    Noctua 1300RPM 19dB case fan (rear extraction)
    3 x 140 MM Coolermaster LED fans (one front intake, one top extraction, one side intake)
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    Default Re: E8400 and UD3R help to 4ghz

    Thanks :) That's very helpful.

    I got 106.45 FPS on 16x AA and everything else maxed but I was only on 1280x800 res.

    I'll look into benchmarking with those other games.

    ETA: You should review the 2209WA when you get it.. I'm really close to picking one up.
    Last edited by Callistra; 06-22-2009 at 04:19 AM.

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    Default Re: E8400 and UD3R help to 4ghz

    Cool.

    On a side note, what did you think of SF4?

    I think they did an excellent job on the PC version. As with Devil May Cry 4, it seems extremely well optimized. I ran the demo on my Q8200 with 4GB RAm and a 7900GTX, CPU at 2.33GHz, and with a little tweaking (low soft and self shadows, low motion blur but full background and character detail with 8x anisotropic filtering) and 2x AA got a 62 fps average.

    Can't wait until July 3rd. Round one...... FIGHT!
    Coolermaster CM 690 II advance Case
    Corsair HX750 (CWT, 91%(80+ Gold rated @230V) single 62A 12V rail
    P55A-UD4 v2.0 @ F14
    Core i5 760 @ 20 x 201, 4.02GHz
    TRUE Black with a single Noctua NF-P12 pumping out 55 CFM @ 19db .
    2 x 2GB Mushkin Ridgeback (996902), @ 7-10-8-27, 2010-DDR, 1.66v
    2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 1024MB in SLI (Pre OC'd to 715MHz core and 1800MHz VRAM) @ 850 Core / 4100 Mem.
    Intel X25-M Boot Drive (OS and Programs) 200MB/s Read & 90MB/s Write
    Corsair X32 200MB/s Read & 100MB/s Write
    WD Caviar Blue 640GB C (Steam, Games, Storage, Temp Files & Folders, etc)
    Samsung F3 500GB Backup/Images
    Noctua 1300RPM 19dB case fan (rear extraction)
    3 x 140 MM Coolermaster LED fans (one front intake, one top extraction, one side intake)
    Dell Ultra Sharp 2209WAf E-IPS @ 1680x1050

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    Hadouken
    * CPU: Intel i7-3770K @ Stock * Cooling: Corsair H80i / Noctua NF-F12 x2 * MoBo: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H (Rev. 1.1 - BIOS F16 Mod16) * RAM: Crucial 1600MHz DDR3 32GB (4x8GB) *
    * GPU: Intel HD 4000 (768MB) * Mon 1: Dell U2410 (A07) * Mon 2: Panasonic TX-P55VT50B * Cam: Logitech C910 HD * BD: Pioneer BDR-208DBK * HD 1: Crucial SSD M4-CT256M4SSD2 256GB *
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    Default Re: E8400 and UD3R help to 4ghz

    Hy there, sorry to interfere with you topic but i'm runing into sort of the same problem. My CPU and MB ar the same.

    I'm using the settings listed below:
    PHP Code:
    CPU E8400 E0
    Motherboard 
    Ep45-UD3R rev 1.1
    BIOS Version 
    F9
    Ram 
    A-Data Vitesta Extreme Edition CL4 800+

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: fast
    CPU Clock Ratio 
    .............................:
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio
    .....................:0
    CPU Frequency 
    ..............................:4000


    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control
    ..................: enabled 
    CPU Host Frequency 
    (Mhz) ............: 500
    PCI Express Frequency 
    (Mhz) .........: 100


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance
    ...................: disabled
    Extreme Memory Profile 
    (X.M.P.).....: disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: auto
    System Memory Multiplier 
    ..............: 2.00D
    Memory Frequency 
    (Mhz) ..............: 1000
    DRAM Timing Selectable 
    ................: manual

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time
    ........................: 5
    tRCD 
    .............................................:5
    tRP
    .................................................:5
    tRAS
    ..............................................:15


    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD
    ...........................................:auto
    tWTR
    ..........................................:auto
    tWR
    ............................................:auto
    tRFC
    ...........................................:auto
    tRTP
    ...........................................:auto
    Command Rate 
    (CMD) ....................:auto


    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:(also tryed 10)
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:9


    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    LLC enabled
    CPU Vcore…
    .………................................:up to 1.3625
    CPU Termination…
    ..... 1.200V*...............:1.24 (tryed up to 1.28)
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......:1.50 (also tryed 1.57)
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*...........:auto (tryed different valuesfrom 0.65 to 0.80

    MCH
    /ICH
    MCH Core……………
    .....1.100V...........: 1.26 (tryed up to 1.34)
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V............: auto (tryed different valuesfrom 0.65 to 0.80
    MCH
    /DRAM Ref.…......0.900V..............: auto
    ICH I
    /O……………….....1.500V............: 1.50
    ICH Core…………
    ...……1.100V...........: 1.1 (also tryed 1.2)

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……
    ....1.800V............: 2.04 (tryed up to 2.1)
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: auto
    Channel A Reference 0.900V
    ............: auto
    Channel B Reference 0.900V
    ............: auto 
    Everything is stable at 500x7.5 using only 1.27 vcore, but when trying 800x5 the PC restarts at the first iteration of prime even with 1.3625 vcore.
    I really don't know what else i could try. I've tryed both F8 and F9 bios with a LOT of different settings and i can't seem to get it stable. Mainly, I've been trying this for the last 2 days, since i replaced my old EP45-DS3L with the UD3R.
    GA-EP45-UD3R (F12)
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    Asus EN9800GT Ultimate @ 810/2000/2200
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    Asus DRW 1608-P
    BenQ G2010WP
    Thermaltake TR2 500W
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    Default Re: E8400 and UD3R help to 4ghz

    @ morph. Try the following and see if it's stable:

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    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: fast
    CPU Clock Ratio .............................:8 
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:0
    CPU Frequency ..............................:4000
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: enabled 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 500
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: disabled
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: auto
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1000
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: manual
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................: 5
    tRCD .............................................:5
    tRP.................................................:5
    tRAS..............................................:15
    
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................:auto
    tWTR..........................................:auto
    tWR............................................:auto
    tRFC...........................................:auto
    tRTP...........................................:auto
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:auto
    
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:10
    Channel B                                                   Change these to 9 and try a stress test if these settings bring stability.
    Static tRead Value.........................:10
    
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    LLC enabled
    CPU Vcore….………................................:1.3500V < If stable try working it down step by step.
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*...............:1.26V - 1.32V try all values in that range.
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: up to 1.61 is is safe, but don't go beyond)
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*...........:Set CPU Termination to 1.2V before changing this value to 0.760V. Adjust MCH Ref too, then set CPU termination back to the desired voltage
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.24 - 1.34 beyond should not be needed.
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V............: Set CPU Termination to 1.2V before setting this to 0.740V. If not stable try 0.720V @1.2V CPU term, then set CPU termination back to the desired voltage
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V..............: auto
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: 1.57
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V...........: 1.2 (also tryed 1.2)
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.1 (tryed up to 2.1)
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: auto
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: auto
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: auto
    take extra care to only adjust CPU Ref and MCH Ref when CPU Termination is set to 1.200V. After setting suggested values for those two referances, set CPU Termination back to the value you're testing. CPU Termination is safe to increase up to 1.400V, but it should usually be below Vcore by at leat a smaill amount, eg at 1.3625V, don't set more than 1.32V-1.34V.
    Coolermaster CM 690 II advance Case
    Corsair HX750 (CWT, 91%(80+ Gold rated @230V) single 62A 12V rail
    P55A-UD4 v2.0 @ F14
    Core i5 760 @ 20 x 201, 4.02GHz
    TRUE Black with a single Noctua NF-P12 pumping out 55 CFM @ 19db .
    2 x 2GB Mushkin Ridgeback (996902), @ 7-10-8-27, 2010-DDR, 1.66v
    2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 1024MB in SLI (Pre OC'd to 715MHz core and 1800MHz VRAM) @ 850 Core / 4100 Mem.
    Intel X25-M Boot Drive (OS and Programs) 200MB/s Read & 90MB/s Write
    Corsair X32 200MB/s Read & 100MB/s Write
    WD Caviar Blue 640GB C (Steam, Games, Storage, Temp Files & Folders, etc)
    Samsung F3 500GB Backup/Images
    Noctua 1300RPM 19dB case fan (rear extraction)
    3 x 140 MM Coolermaster LED fans (one front intake, one top extraction, one side intake)
    Dell Ultra Sharp 2209WAf E-IPS @ 1680x1050

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    Default Re: E8400 and UD3R help to 4ghz

    Thanks for the template, I'll give it a try in the morning. For the night I'm gonna leave prime blend with 500x7.5 to make sure this is fully stable.
    GA-EP45-UD3R (F12)
    Zalman CNPS-7000C-CU
    E8400@3.6GHz
    2x2GB A-DATA Vitesta 800+ CL4 Extreme Edition @ 1066MHz@2.0V (5-5-5-15)
    Asus EN9800GT Ultimate @ 810/2000/2200
    Seagate 250GB + WD 500GB + WD 640GB
    Asus DRW 1608-P
    BenQ G2010WP
    Thermaltake TR2 500W
    Windows 7 Pro x64

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