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    Default Re: Cool, quiet, fast & sexy - long road to enlightment

    What's your opinion on LLC then? It almost looks like you prefer it off?

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    I don't mind LLC. It's a really useful feature in some circumstances. However it does mean that you're running the CPU other than in accordance to specifications.

    The whole idea behind Vdroop is that as the CPU's supply voltage fluctuates (spikes happen as part of normal operation) is that your Vcore will never, ever go over what you set in the BIOS. LLC disables droop, and means that sometimes when CPU Vcore spikes, it actually goes above what you've set. This isn't necessarily harmful though, and as long as voltage is reasonable for the type of cooling you have, the spikes are harmless.

    Personally I will only use LLC for 24/7 when I can't get stable with it off using 1.3625V. I'll use it with 1.3-1.35V and test again. Everyone has their own style and opinion, but personally I don't see the point in running something like 1.25V with LLC on, unless you get some sort of benefit like a decrease in temperature etc. Vdroop is often made out to be the bad guy, but it's a safety feature really.
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    Default Re: Cool, quiet, fast & sexy - long road to enlightment

    Keep in mind to high of a voltage, even for testing, can cause instability and make you think you need more of xx voltage or something else, when all you really needed to do was use less voltage to begin with.

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    Ok the heatsink is installed, it only JUST fit!!! Bloody X-fi Forte!! Curious about temperatures.
    Testing 533FSB and 1.28 MCH core. Wondering how low can I get!
    And damn I might become another D-a-n :D

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    Damn, I wish I had more PCI-e slots! The heatsink is hot as hell :) I could swap the soundcard with network card, but then I would block half the fan on VGA :D tough choices. On the other hand it might still be able to throw enough air on the VGA while somehow cooling the soundcard at the same time. Well, we will see... In worst case I will get me a small fan, slow it down a little and place on the NB heatsink.

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    You can remove the blue cover on the NB and put a 40-50 MM Fan on there if you like, or put a larger 80-120 MM fan at the backside of your GFX Cards blowing down the cards towards the back, and across the NB from the side.

    I actually have a 80MM fan hangin on my CPU bolt from my water block right now, sitting on my GFX Card and blowing on my ram and NB.

    Many ways to cool things if you aren't trying to be pretty

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    What I got is Radeon 4870 with Accelero S1 rev2 with 120mm Noctua mounted on it. Wish I had a camera. Well the LAN card is right "on" the Noctua, but only covers very small part of the fan. Then a little room, then soundcard and right on it is the new heatsink. It looks sexy btw!
    I will experiment with an intake fan - got me another new Noctua :)
    Anyway - 40 mins of test and no crash, so as one wise man around here said before - LET IT BURN! :D

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    Default Re: Cool, quiet, fast & sexy - long road to enlightment

    Would you think there is ANY chance to get stable with 533FSB and less than 1.26V MCH Core?

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    It's possible.

    I think the reason you don't see many people running super low MCH Core is because it takes a balance of other voltages to get it down. People may either not want to bother tuning just to get MCH core a little lower, or they may need their current VTT, VDIMM, PLL and References the way they are for CPU stability.

    It depends on how much time you want to spend on MCH. As you get further up in FSB speed and change Refs, VTT and PLL to remain stable, you may find that these changes then give you the ability to use a lower MCH without directly having that as your goal.
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