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  1. #11
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P dual channel ram issues

    Unless you can get hold of some different, preferably known compatible RAM, it's hard to eliminate either component as the cause unfortunately.
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P dual channel ram issues

    My only other thought is to get into bios, load optimized defaults - F10 and yes to save it,
    let it reboot, see if that works for you, if not then write down your specifications listed so we can see if there is anything out of whack.
    Also your MCH Core should work anywhere between 1.22V and 1.28V (not overclocking)

    Post your bios settings in this handy chart (courtesy of Lsdmeasap)


    Code:
    Motherboard: Model:  Rev#:  Bios Version:
    Cpu: Model
    Ram: Brand, Model/Part#, Link to your ram's specs
    Power Supply Unit: Brand, Model#, Wattage
    
    Default settings for new setups that are not overclocked.
    
    note: replace all ?? with the value displayed in your bios.
    ----> Replace "Auto" with manually set values.
    
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto] <--- FAST is OK
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [##]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.0] < ignore if not available
    CPU Frequency ---------------------: ####
    
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [Mhz]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [Auto] <--- Set to 100, never leave this on Auto
    
    C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]
    
    Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<<
    MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<<
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance ------------------- : [Turbo] <--- set to DISABLED when overclocking
    Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : [Disabled] <--- Leave this Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [Auto]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : [Auto]
    DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Auto] <-- set to MANUAL for overclocking
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tRCD  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tRP --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tRAS  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tWTR  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tWR --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tRFC  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tRTP  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) -------------------- : [Auto] <--- Auto or 0 is OK
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength --------- : Press Enter <--- press ENTER to modify memory sub-timings when overclocking
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Voltage Types------------ Normal -------- Current -----
    Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore --------------- 1.?????  ---- : [Auto] <--- set to the 1.????? value
    
    CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ----- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left (Auto over-volts this too much when overclocking) Auto is OK if not overclocking
    CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V* ----- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left (Auto over-volts this too much when overclocking) Auto is OK if not overclocking
    
    CPU Reference ----------- 0.755V* ----- : [Auto] <--- Auto Will set this correctly
    CPU Reference2 ---------- 0.800V* ----- : [Auto] <--- Auto Will set this correctly
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to 1.20 for 2x2GB ram (1.24 - 1.26, or 1.05 might be needed)
    MCH Reference ----------- 0.800V ------- : [Auto]
    MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.900V  ------ : [Auto]
    ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left
    ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the max rated ram voltage (for most memory)
    DRAM Termination -------- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    Channel A Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    Channel B Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function  --------------------- : [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled] <--- Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect  ------------- : [Enabled] <--- set to Disabled when overclocking (this must be enabled to flash or boot from a USB drive)
    Case: Cooler Master Sniper
    PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower 750
    UPS: APC CS 500
    CPU: Intel QX9650 3.00 GHZ Cooler: Xigmatek Black Knight
    MB : Gigabyte GA-EP45T-DS3R Rev 1 Bios:F2 Bus:333
    Ram: 4GB (2X2GB) DDR3 Corsair XMS TW3X4G1600C9DHX (9 9 9 24 1.8V ver 3.2)
    GPU: EVGA Nvidia 8800 GTX 768 MB
    HDD: Western Digital Raptor 150GB SATA
    DVD: Memorex CD/DVD Writer 52X/32X/16X
    Display: Sharp LC-42D72U 42 in LCD 60Hz
    OS: Windows XP PRO SP3
    Misc: Seagate 300GB SATA Drive in Kingwin hot swap module (used for image backups)


  3. #13
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P dual channel ram issues

    Yeah I already tried loading the optimized defaults and saving it - still a no go when trying to use ram in dual channel. Thanks for the chart ... I've filled it out now based on the optimized defaults

    Code:
    Motherboard: EP45-UD3P  Rev#:1  Bios Version:F10b
    Cpu: Intel e8200
    Ram: G.Skill, F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK , http://www.gskill.com/images/images_products/F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK-Installation%20Guide.pdf
    Power Supply Unit: Corsair VX450W, 450W
    
    Default settings for new setups that are not overclocked.
    
    note: replace all ?? with the value displayed in your bios.
    ----> Replace "Auto" with manually set values.
    
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto] <--- FAST is OK
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [8X]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.0] < ignore if not available
    CPU Frequency ---------------------: 2.66 Ghz (333x8)
    
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [Mhz]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [Auto] <--- Set to 100, never leave this on Auto
    
    C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]
    
    Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<<
    MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<<
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance ------------------- : [Turbo] <--- set to DISABLED when overclocking
    Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : [Disabled] <--- Leave this Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [Auto]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : [Auto]
    DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Auto] <-- set to MANUAL for overclocking
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------- 5 ---------- : [Auto]
    tRCD  ------------------- 7 ---------- : [Auto]
    tRP --------------------- 7 ---------- : [Auto]
    tRAS  ------------------- 20 ---------- : [Auto]
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD  ------------------- 4 ---------- : [Auto]
    tWTR  ------------------- 4 ---------- : [Auto]
    tWR --------------------- 8 ---------- : [Auto]
    tRFC  ------------------- 68 ---------- : [Auto]
    tRTP  ------------------- 4 ---------- : [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) -------------------- : [Auto] <--- Auto or 0 is OK
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength --------- : Press Enter <--- press ENTER to modify memory sub-timings when overclocking
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Voltage Types------------ Normal -------- Current -----
    Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore --------------- 1.1625  ---- : [Auto] <--- set to the 1.????? value
    
    CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ----- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left (Auto over-volts this too much when overclocking) Auto is OK if not overclocking
    CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V* ----- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left (Auto over-volts this too much when overclocking) Auto is OK if not overclocking
    
    CPU Reference ----------- 0.760V* ----- : [Auto] <--- Auto Will set this correctly
    CPU Reference2 ---------- 0.800V* ----- : [Auto] <--- Auto Will set this correctly
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.2V ------- : [Manual] <--- set to 1.20 for 2x2GB ram (1.24 - 1.26, or 1.05 might be needed)
    MCH Reference ----------- 0.760V ------- : [Auto]
    MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.900V  ------ : [Auto]
    ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left
    ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 2.1V ------- : [Manual] <--- set to the max rated ram voltage (for most memory)
    DRAM Termination -------- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    Channel A Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    Channel B Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function  --------------------- : [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled] <--- Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect  ------------- : [Enabled] <--- set to Disabled when overclocking (this must be enabled to flash or boot from a USB drive)
    [/QUOTE]

  4. #14
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P dual channel ram issues

    Just wanted to make sure that both sticks work individually in the system fine, my only other thoughts are try MCH Core @ 1.26V - and with what Psycho said - if you have access to some other Ram that you could try would probably go a long way in troubleshooting.
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    PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower 750
    UPS: APC CS 500
    CPU: Intel QX9650 3.00 GHZ Cooler: Xigmatek Black Knight
    MB : Gigabyte GA-EP45T-DS3R Rev 1 Bios:F2 Bus:333
    Ram: 4GB (2X2GB) DDR3 Corsair XMS TW3X4G1600C9DHX (9 9 9 24 1.8V ver 3.2)
    GPU: EVGA Nvidia 8800 GTX 768 MB
    HDD: Western Digital Raptor 150GB SATA
    DVD: Memorex CD/DVD Writer 52X/32X/16X
    Display: Sharp LC-42D72U 42 in LCD 60Hz
    OS: Windows XP PRO SP3
    Misc: Seagate 300GB SATA Drive in Kingwin hot swap module (used for image backups)


  5. #15
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P dual channel ram issues

    yeah the sticks work fine individually. I tried bumping up MCH to 1.26V as you said but the ram still doesn't seem to play nice. Unfortunately I don't own any of the recommended sets of ram listed on the Gigabyte website... what I do have is another set of RAM (OCZ2RPR800C44GK PC2 6400) ram - I can confirm that set of ram works fine but once again the motherboard doesn't seem to take them in dual channel mode.

    gah... this problem is killing me
    Last edited by poonsmjj; 07-06-2009 at 10:21 AM.

  6. #16
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P dual channel ram issues

    What is the static tRead value at?
    Case: Cooler Master Sniper
    PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower 750
    UPS: APC CS 500
    CPU: Intel QX9650 3.00 GHZ Cooler: Xigmatek Black Knight
    MB : Gigabyte GA-EP45T-DS3R Rev 1 Bios:F2 Bus:333
    Ram: 4GB (2X2GB) DDR3 Corsair XMS TW3X4G1600C9DHX (9 9 9 24 1.8V ver 3.2)
    GPU: EVGA Nvidia 8800 GTX 768 MB
    HDD: Western Digital Raptor 150GB SATA
    DVD: Memorex CD/DVD Writer 52X/32X/16X
    Display: Sharp LC-42D72U 42 in LCD 60Hz
    OS: Windows XP PRO SP3
    Misc: Seagate 300GB SATA Drive in Kingwin hot swap module (used for image backups)


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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P dual channel ram issues

    static tRead Value is at 8 on Auto. Btw, thanks to all that have helped so far... you have no idea how much I appreciate it

  8. #18
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P dual channel ram issues

    I am definitely not a guru here like Psycho, Lsdmeasap, ProfJim and others, but almost all the problems I have had (when they popped up) were due to RAM issues.

    Computers can be finicky sometimes - and it is frustrating - so I know where you are coming from.

    Well, unfortunately my little brain has no other suggestions. Trying to think if I have missed something........
    Case: Cooler Master Sniper
    PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower 750
    UPS: APC CS 500
    CPU: Intel QX9650 3.00 GHZ Cooler: Xigmatek Black Knight
    MB : Gigabyte GA-EP45T-DS3R Rev 1 Bios:F2 Bus:333
    Ram: 4GB (2X2GB) DDR3 Corsair XMS TW3X4G1600C9DHX (9 9 9 24 1.8V ver 3.2)
    GPU: EVGA Nvidia 8800 GTX 768 MB
    HDD: Western Digital Raptor 150GB SATA
    DVD: Memorex CD/DVD Writer 52X/32X/16X
    Display: Sharp LC-42D72U 42 in LCD 60Hz
    OS: Windows XP PRO SP3
    Misc: Seagate 300GB SATA Drive in Kingwin hot swap module (used for image backups)


  9. #19
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P dual channel ram issues

    Hey guys just wanted to add that I am experiencing exactly the same problem on a new build. I did one for my brother back around Christmas using a Q9550, EP45-UD3P 1.0, and 8gb of GSkill 4x2gb PC8500 (got a safe 3.6 OC out of it - he didnt want a dramatic oc).

    Anyway, I have tried everything in this thread and a few more things.

    Currrent build
    Q9400
    2x2gb GSkill PC8500
    EP45-UD3P 1.1
    Saphire HD4850 (512)
    Corsair 650 PS

    A little background, everything booted fine when I first got it assembled, ran memtest 86+ through 5 runs just fine, PC Health all good (voltages, temps etc). Downloaded and installed Bios F10B (from bios thread) using qflash, everything went fine. After resetting MB came up with the fast beeps and recycling (trying to find settings it can boot with - standard with this board I have found).
    I, as with poon, have found that with just one stick (usually in slot 2 - second yellow) it would at least get to post. So I tried all the settings mentioned here and a few more; Dram Voltage, MCH, TRFD, etc. etc., nothing thus far allows me to even post with 4gb in or even with just 2gb in slot 0 - first yellow).

    Things I have tried:
    Bioses F6, F9, and F10B (loading optimized settings after each flash)
    Reset CMOS (multiple times)
    Memory in both Dual Channel sets of slots (yellow set and orange set)
    Memory tested in another box (works great)
    Another set of slower PC8500, same result no post

    and yeah I know what I am doing around electronics, been working with them for 20 years or so.

    So I thought I would pitch in that its not just poonjsmjj having this issue.

    T_O
    Last edited by The_Omni; 07-06-2009 at 06:02 PM. Reason: add sig
    GA EP45-UD3P Rev1.1 (Bios F9), Intel Q9400, GSKill PC2 8500 CLD5 (4gb Kit), Saphire HD4850 (512), Arctic 7 Cooler, Corsair TX650 PS
    Eventually Vista 64 Ultimate

  10. #20
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P dual channel ram issues

    Ok after all that and posting the above I tried one more time. F9 Bios, optimized settings, both sticks in. This time I decided to just let it recycle for awhile (normally I would just let at try two/three cycles), it finally posted on try number 8 to 10 (I wasn't counting).

    It defaulted to 5-7-7-20 on the memory, and thus far it posts, and runs memtest +86.

    More later after I have had time to tinker.

    poonsmjj, reset your CMOS, with both sticks in and this time just let it recycle for awhile. Yours might do as mine did, and finally catch.

    T_O
    GA EP45-UD3P Rev1.1 (Bios F9), Intel Q9400, GSKill PC2 8500 CLD5 (4gb Kit), Saphire HD4850 (512), Arctic 7 Cooler, Corsair TX650 PS
    Eventually Vista 64 Ultimate

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