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    Default Ep45-ds5 / Memory issues

    Hello ;)

    Heya everyone!

    So this is my first time on forums that are english, And i came here because seems alot of peopel here resolve and help out when it comes to issues and overclocking.

    I recently bought an new motherboard, Ep45-ds5, And somehow i doesnt want me to get Dual channel running with my memories.

    Memories are Crucial Balistix Pc-6400 2x2GB, I been using them on a ep35 ds3 and ds4, also did work on a Xfx nforce 780i and on a ep45 ds3. But on the Ds5 it doesnt seem to work. And my Corsair pc8500 4x1GB didnt work either on dual channel.

    Only way to get them to run is either single ram 2GB in Dim 1 or 2, or using both in dim 1 and 2 > runnings single channel ;(

    The PC reboots and starts wich black screen, after couple of seconds same circus all over. I ran Memtest86 with no issues, and i basicly tought it was my motherboard wich didnt work as supposed, So i got a new one, same model from the same company and still wont work.

    So question is if its the memorys or the motherboard.

    The pc itself is this:

    E0 Quad 9550 2.83Ghz Stcok > running 4.0Ghz
    Ep45-DS5
    Thermalright 120 Extreme + Noctua P12-1300
    Gainward 275GTX
    Crucial Balistix Pc-6400 2x2GB > running 1000 mhz 2,1 v 5-5-5-15 timings
    Coolermaster Realpower 850
    2x Seagate 320GB 16 cache
    Antec 900 + 3x Noctua S12-1200
    Schyte Kama Fan Controller

    Any help atm would be great, Thanks and take care.

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    Default Re: Ep45-ds5 / Memory issues

    Are these the 2.2V Crucial or 2.0V ones? I know for sure the 2.0V ones work just fine in dual channel, I did a review on two sets of them (See Signature for review)

    If you are not sure of the model # or the rated Voltage can you please post me a screenshot of CPU-z SPD Tab.

    I do know some issues were present with the 2.2V rated ones, that is why they switched chips and started making the 2.0V ones.

    I can help for sure either way, just trying to gather some more info before I advise you a little bit, could just be settings.

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    Default Re: Ep45-ds5 / Memory issues

    So i made a screen shot.



    Im not sure why them wont start, Iv tried random settings, with 800 mhz 2 x yellow slots, and nothing. Tried to get volt up too 2.0 and little above and still nothing.

    Thanks for you time
    Last edited by Cxod; 07-08-2009 at 04:21 PM.

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    Default Re: Ep45-ds5 / Memory issues

    Have you tried the other slots? Just wondering, you should be fine using the yellow ones as they are the correct ones to use.

    That is the exact ram I reviewed. I posted several sets of settings in my review for Gigabyte and Crucial users. Have you had a chance to look over the review and settings I posted.

    If you haven't read it yet, please do. Then if you find it has not helped you any please go ahead and give me your settings in full that you are trying and I will advise back

    This is Just a template I use to ask people their settings, pay no attention to the numbers in it, replace with yours

    CPU = Model #
    Motherboard = Model, Revision #
    BIOS Version =
    Ram = Brand, Model#, Part#, And or Link

    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto or Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................
    tRCD .........................................
    tRP'...........................................
    tRAS..........................................
    
    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first.  Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................
    tWTR..........................................
    tWR............................................
    tRFC...........................................
    tRTP...........................................
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
     tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
     tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
     tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto 
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto 
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto 
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:Auto if not overclocking, if you are overclocking please do find and set your own voltages
    
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much.  Optimal range for overclock would be 1.2-1.5 depending on Vcore, try to keep at least .1 under vcore.  Auto is fine if not overclocking
    
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: << If overclocking Please set to stock, Auto overvolts this way to much.  Optimal range for overclock would be 1.5-1.65.  Auto is fine if not overclocking
    
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......:<<< .67% Of Vtt (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly 
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: << 
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB

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    Default Re: Ep45-ds5 / Memory issues

    Thanks for you time once again.

    Iv done the settings that are standard for the crucials 2x2GB with the settings you used in ur review. I followed everything exaclty and nothing, keeps rebooting everytime, Doesnt get any thing on screen and fans running on max.

    Also i tried to put the memories in yellow slots wich are dual and of course the red aswell. And keeps rebooting. Also above > i followed ur bios specs and the ones i was supposed to fill out, the pc just keeps doing the same, Reboots then dies, reboots and then dies.

    So now to the questions u gave me

    CPU = Model # Inte Core 2 Quad 9550 Revison is E0
    Motherboard = Model Gigabyte Ep45-DS5 Revision 1.0
    BIOS Version = F12, Also tried F10 + F9
    Ram = Crucial Balistix Pc6400 2x2GB / Stock timings 4-4-4-12 and Stock volt 2.0

    Thats all i know atm, seems to me as i will have to change the rams, I talked to the ppl from the store i got the motherboard, and they said it could be the rams that arent supported.

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    Default Re: Ep45-ds5 / Memory issues

    Well I wanted to have you post back the settings you are trying that fail, that is a blank template above so you can do so. Then I will post back settings for you to change and try

    The ram is supported for sure, fully as you can see in my review. The board is the same as your's minus a LAN and 2 SATA Ports. Crucial sent me those sets just for the purpose of making sure they both worked in Gigabyte boards.

    Are you setting your own Memory Multi, if so which? Also the same for tRD (Static tRead Value), what are you setting?

    Are you overclocking your CPU at all or not? If you are, are you sure it is stable and what is your FSB?

    Have you ran Memtest86+ on each stick one by one at stock settings? That would be manually set Ram voltage 2.0, manually set Memory multi 2.40B (FSB at 333), manually set Ram Main timings 444-12 and everything else on auto? I would run the test 5-10 passes on each stick to be sure they are not faulty
    Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool

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    Default Re: Ep45-ds5 / Memory issues

    I want to overclock, but too get the rams first to work i cant, so i used what u said i should.

    Im not sure why, but my Girlfriends Ep45ds3 > runs the crucial memories.
    Without any problems. And this motherboard is new since yesterday, i picked it up "second time" bc i though it didnt work as supposed, but now i seen alot of ppl Running the OCZ HPS memories wich do seem work. Not sure, Memtest, That takes alot of time if im not wrong? And atm im busy ;(
    Have had so much trouble past week, im going nuts soon.

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    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: 0.5
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.83


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: Auto
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................ 4
    tRCD ................................... 4
    tRP'.................................... 4
    tRAS.....................................12

    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................15
    tWTR..........................................31
    tWR............................................31
    tRFC...........................................255
    tRTP...........................................15
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value......................... 7 < Was there already
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: 7 < Same as above
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control

    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................Auto

    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.200


    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.500

    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: Auto

    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: Auto

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.100 // Tried 1.200
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: <<< Leave
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: 2.000 // Tried 2.1
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

    Integrated Peripherals

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    Default Re: Ep45-ds5 / Memory issues

    Memtest86+ will take you about maybe 1-1 1/2 hours altogether, that's for each stick to test 5-10 separately. it depends on your CPU Overclock if any though, could be less or more.

    The ram for sure works fine on your model of board, trust me.

    I see some VERY OFF Settings, maybe that is your issues?

    Try these and see how you get along

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 8
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................: 0.5
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 2.83


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.40B
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 800
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................ 4
    tRCD ................................... 4
    tRP'.................................... 4
    tRAS.....................................12

    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3-4 (3 is fine)
    tWTR..........................................3-6
    tWR............................................4-6
    tRFC...........................................54-58
    tRTP...........................................3-5 (3 is fine)
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................ << Set this to 800, test 1066 later

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value......................... Set to 8 for now Manually
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: Set to 8 for now Manually
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control

    CPU
    CPU Vcore….……….........................Auto

    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: 1.200 << Set to 1.225-1.25


    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......: 1.500

    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*.......: Auto

    CPU Reference2………,,0.800V*.......: Auto

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: 1.100 // Tried 1.200 << Set to 1.24
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........; <<< Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: <<< 1.54
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< 1.14

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: Set 2.05
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: <<< Leave

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled] Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC

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    Default Re: Ep45-ds5 / Memory issues

    Thanks for your help

    But it failed. Rebooted, didnt work, pc died, rebooted and circuls maximus is up an running again ;)

    I maybe should change rams? Memories arent to expensive, and seems mine wont work either, If this wont get sorted, id gladly take a suggiestion ;)
    Last edited by Cxod; 07-08-2009 at 06:52 PM.

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    Default Re: Ep45-ds5 / Memory issues

    Can you test those sticks on another PC as stated above, or on yours one at a time? This way we know for sure if they are faulty or not? The above settings should work fine, you did set the higher of the values I noted out right?

    Here try the above but make these changes and see if it will boot through or not, if not please test them one by one on your board or another.

    tWTR..........................................3-6 << Set 10
    tWR............................................4-6 << Set 12

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