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    Default Re: Issues booting on x58-UD5 (OC)

    Are you sure they actually tested it, and tested it at it's stock speed of 1333 and not 1066? Just wondering.

    To do Memtest86+ yourself you would need to either burn a CD ISO, or Floppy, or put the correct version on a Bootable USB Stick and boot to it. Here is the latest version 2.11
    Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool

    I do see you are way overclocking your ram (1520Mhz), especially for being unstable and not setting your own voltages. This is likely a main part of your issues.

    *EDIT*

    I am posting you some settings, please update your BIOS. I will post stock settings, and some for you to try at 190 Blck.

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    Default Re: Issues booting on x58-UD5 (OC)

    I would imagine your round trip latency being set in the 70's would be corrected by the BIOS update as well. I think in the 50's would be better, but it is hard to set manually. You can try the following equation, starting in the 60';s and work your way down if you like (Later on, as I don't think it should cause you issues only hinder performance)

    Channel 1 = x
    Channel 2 = x+2
    Channel 3 = x+4 (but channel 3 can sometimes be x+5 as well)

    This is what you should use for stock (CPU and RAM)

    Stock

    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [19x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [disabled] << Enabled
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [disabled] << Enabled
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [enabled]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [enabled]
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled]
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
    QPI Link Speed .............................. 4.78ghz
    Uncore Frequency .......................... 20
    Uncore Frequency .......................... 2.66mhz
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 133
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [Auto] << 100

    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Turbo] << Standard until you are stable
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled] *** dont have this on mine (Memory specific is why, just means they did not program your memory with XMP Data)
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [AUTO] << 10.0 (1333Mhz)
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [AUTO] << Manual

    Channel A + B + C

    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ...................... 9
    tRCD .......................................9
    tRP ......................................... 9
    tRAS ....................................... 24

    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................ 27 Auto
    tRRD ....................................... 4 Auto
    tWTR ...................................... 4 Auto
    tWR ........................................ 8 Auto
    tWTP ....................................... TRTP ? 4 Auto
    tWL ........................................ TWR ? 8 Auto
    tRFC ....................................... 60 Auto
    tRTP ....................................... 4 Auto
    tFAW ...................................... 20 Auto
    Command Rate (CMD) ................ 1

    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ................... 74 Auto

    Advanced Voltage Control:

    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore ............................... 1.3V Auto
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ 1.15V-1.35
    CPU PLL 1.800v ....................... 1.8V Auto

    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ........................... 1.5v Auto
    QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... 1.1v Auto
    IOH Core 1.100v ..................... 1.1v Auto
    ICH I/O 1.500v ....................... 1.5v Auto
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................ 1.1v Auto

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. 1.5-1.55
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]



    Overclocked

    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ................................ [19x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [disabled] << Enabled
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................ [All]
    CPU Multi Threading .......................... [disabled] << Enabled
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [enabled] << DISABLED
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ............................ [enabled] << DISABLED
    Virtualization Technology ................... [Enabled]
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed .............................. x36
    QPI Link Speed .............................. 6.84ghz
    Uncore Frequency .......................... 16
    Uncore Frequency .......................... 3040mhz
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... 190
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [Auto] << 100

    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ..............................[800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance ...................... [Turbo] << Standard until you are stable
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled] *** dont have this on mine (Memory specific is why, just means they did not program your memory with XMP Data)
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [AUTO] << 8.0 (1520 Mhz, your ram just may not do this and be stable without excess voltages, it is 1333Mhz kit remember.)

    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [AUTO] << Manual

    Channel A + B + C

    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ...................... 9/10
    tRCD .......................................9/10
    tRP ......................................... 9
    tRAS ....................................... 24/27/28

    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................ 27 Auto
    tRRD ....................................... 4 Auto
    tWTR ...................................... 4 Auto
    tWR ........................................ 8 Auto
    tWTP ....................................... TRTP ? 4 Auto
    tWL ........................................ TWR ? 8 Auto
    tRFC ....................................... 60 Auto <<< Set 84-88
    tRTP ....................................... 4 Auto
    tFAW ...................................... 20 Auto
    Command Rate (CMD) ................ 1

    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ................... 74 Auto

    Advanced Voltage Control:

    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore ............................... 1.3V << Set this manually, auto will give it way to much. You will need to find your own stable voltage, I start high and work backwards but you can do it anyway you like.

    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ............ 1.3-1.45
    CPU PLL 1.800v ....................... 1.8V Auto

    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ........................... 1.5v Auto
    QPI PLL 1.100v ....................... 1.16-1.24
    IOH Core 1.100v ..................... 1.14-1.24
    ICH I/O 1.500v ....................... 1.5v Auto
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................ 1.14v

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v .............. 1.6-1.66
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Last edited by Lsdmeasap; 07-08-2009 at 04:26 PM.

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    Default Re: Issues booting on x58-UD5 (OC)

    @lsdmeasap , If My DIMMS are at 1.65V already and I feel I just need a little more voltage to get it stable , would increasing the QPI Voltage help?

    Am at 1.65V - DDR3 1600 7,7,7,24, and VTT/QPI @ 1.35 V , Fails Intel Burn test at Maximum stress.

    The same settings with 1.68 V passes the Intel Burn test.... you think reducing the DIMMs back to 1.65V and increasing the VTT/QPI would help here?
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    Default Re: Issues booting on x58-UD5 (OC)

    Yeap it for sure can, you can even raise your vdimm if you like. I run 1.68-1.75 all the time, just be sure you keep the .5 difference. But yes, try a bit more QPI/Vtt first as it may be all you need, some CPU's IMC's are just stronger and need less, and some are not so strong so they need more.

    You could test both ways, either would be safe and fine for your system as neither is an extreme anyway.

    I have some sets I can run 1600MHz using 676-18 if I use 1.45-1.5+ QPI/Vtt, leaving the ram at 1.65, and the same if I raise the ram voltage and use less QPI/Vtt

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    A 190 BCLK overclock is that using the stock CPU cooler and what is the room temperature? 190 BCLK is pretty much depending on CPU cooler, room temparature and the airflow in your case. You could actually just be having a heat problem that when your CPU is loading and getting hot, it will give you a BSOD and then it needs 6-7 tries to revert to default BIOS settings.

    i am sure Lsdmeasap will have some suggestions to a overclock and help you with that. but you should list what CPU cooler you have and what room temperature and such.

    Try downloading Everest Ultimate and see what the temperatures are when you overclock. The temperatures can be found under sensor - here is a link to download a free trial version of Everest Ultimate. Remember to get the Ultimate version.

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    Sorry Lsdmeasap

    I did not see you guys were actually in the middle of resolving this. I was writing as you were posting.

    Poul

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    Default Re: Issues booting on x58-UD5 (OC)

    @lsdmeasap , thats good to hear , could you explain what you mean by "keep the .5 difference"
    I was under the impression that anything greater than 1.65V VDIMM would kill the CPU soon.. but that may be a misconception.
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    I guess I should be reading before posting. Now I see the x19 which should be an OK overclock even with the stock CPU cooler.

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    Default Re: Issues booting on x58-UD5 (OC)

    Morning,

    So I installed the new bios, had a 5 boot on start up, but the BIOS didn't revert itself to factory (bonus). I looked into the idea that I actually have different ram than what they sold me (although the package I have says that it's 1333 ram). I reset the BIOS to factory-fail safes and this is what I get:



    This ram says that it should operate at 1333 @ 9-9-9-24... not 1058 @ 8-8-8-20.

    These screenshots are at factory spec, no OC.

    I reset to factory until we get the RAM issue figured out.

    Thanks,

    Justin.

    PS : I took the proper precautions with OC and upgraded my CPU cooler to a V8 coolermaster and upgraded all of my fans to 1900rpms.

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    Default Re: Issues booting on x58-UD5 (OC)

    I called the store to ask one of the tech-folks about the different timings. He said it was normal for the clocks to tighten up on i7 machine on this motherboard, as the memory controller is CPU controlled. He said to set the frequency to 1333 manually.

    He wasn't the most helpful, =)

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