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    Yes, your PSU is definitely ok. Unfortunately you get no warning when they're on the edge. They simply "let go" rather that die slowly; sometimes with fireworks and smellovision. This is the only time you're likely to break the number 1 rule of overcloking: Never start a fire, fires are hot and burny... not good. Your Antec 500 Earthwatts should be more than capable of powering your system.

    Your best option is to replace components plugged into the board one by one until it springs into life. Shorting the clear CMOS pins between each swap is a good idea.

    Start with the most likely suspect, which I also think is RAM. Get a hold of a known good stick from a friend, or ideally two to also test dual channel operation.

    Next in line for me would be the GFX card, regardless of if the 9800gt works ok. Using an ancient PCI card would be great. I have an S3 Virge 4MB card purely for this reason. An ollder PCIe card which doesn't need a PCIe power connector would be second choice. I have a X800GT for this job.

    If this is fruitless, then first try re-seating the CPU in the socket. Before placing it back in, llook at the socket for damaged pins. If there are one or two bent pins, heating with a hairdryer then using a plastic or wooden pick to straighten them can work. Be careful though, if in doubt.

    You can of course do these steps out of order, if you can't find a spare GFX card wor a while, check the CPU etc.

    Testing your RAM in another board may prove that there's no hardware fault, but a compatibility issue could remain with your board and those modules. From reading here, it seems Kingston and Gigabyte don't always play nice either.

    If you do by chance happen to get into the BIOS, disable Legacy USB Support in the advanced features menu. It has been known to cause many problems.
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    creamsoda,
    I actually had the battery out the entire time I was following Lsd's method. Anyway, I had the battery out for a few hours now. I'm trying to have it out for the full 24hrs and see if that's going to make a difference.

    genec57,
    I know my old PSU has only 400watts, but I only hooked up the board and the video card to the PSU and nothing else...not even fans. Shouldn't that be enough power to get into BIOS?

    Psycho101,
    Thanks for the detailed reply. I'll give your suggestion a try, but it'll be difficult to find some old school PCI video cards. I wonder if they had any of those at the recycling center.

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    Default Re: Could this be my PSU or my GA-EP45-DS3R?

    $50 Bucks is on the HDD

    EDIT: Well now that Ive read the rest of the thread, the fact that your having trouble getting into BIOS may not mean that the HDD is the Problem. If your computer gets into a reboot loop leave it for a while and sometimes they come good. If not there is always the possibility of a short? or something. I would completely dismantle your entire system (MB out of case) and start from Scratch. Its not out of the Question that your PSU is fuc.ked. I had one that did kinda what your saying. Turn the system on Fans spin up and lights come on for a second then off again. Ive also had another PSU that would make my computer BSOD, Restart or just switch off randomly, and it was a dic.ky 5v Rail that was dropping way out of spec with low volts. So yeah. 400Watts should be enough to get you into windows with your current system. I wouldnt recommend gaming up that 9800GT as they are a little power hungry. But 4 pin PSU will be fine for your Chip. They are really only using the 8 pins on the Extreme Edition CPUs and Super High Overclocking and stuff. There you go a few more suggestions to try.
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    You could disconnect the power from your HD just to see if it has a fault and is contributing to another problem, which is having the effect of loading the PSU (too greatly) at startup.

    But you really need to stick to basics now, ie just one stick of ram and/or an alternative make/model.

    The power supply is possibly another issue, especially if your 400watt PSU (which you are using for troubleshooting) is more than 5 years old? If it is, it might be adding an extra problem and not really proving if the Antec 500watt PSU is ok. (I've been talking about atx revisions which covers this in another thread)

    Also I note that you state your Bios version (which is good to do). But have you recently upgraded your bios, or even just before this problem occurred?
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    Default Re: Could this be my PSU or my GA-EP45-DS3R?

    The troubleshooting suggestions in this post might help.
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    Thanks everyone for all the suggestions. Well, I don't have an old PCI video card and don't know where to find one. I do have everything else and managed to get a 350watts PSU. So, I gave it another try. I took out the mobo and reseated everything and found no damaged pins in the CPU socket. I started to reconnect everything from scratch like I did the first time I built it. I only connected just enough of the required stuff to get into BIOS. I got no luck and still run into the power loop with all 3 PSUs. I decided to removed the video card and the ram and tested it again just to see if the lights on the mobo stayed lit or not. That turned out didn't help anything...the lights on the mobo kept turning on and off themselves.

    Here's the interesting part.

    I removed the CPU. So, right now I only had the mobo connected to the PSU and the power button cable from the case. I turned the power back on and this time the lights on the mobo stayed lit. I tried it will all 3 PSUs and the lights remained lit. I decided to put the CPU back into its socket and see what'll happen. After I had the CPU back into the mobo and turned the power back on, the lights on the board went nuts again with all 3 PSUs.

    So, could the culprit be my Q6600? I didn't OC it and I had the Zalman on it the whole time and the temp had always been normal under Everest. My other system's running a Pentium 4 chip right now. Is it wise to take that chip out and put it in the GA-EP45-DS3R to see if it boots into BIOS?

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    still need more information, hook a speaker up to your mobo and tell us what beeps it plays. if its a "power" beep then you need to reseat, reseat and reseat again. when psus go bad they dont work anymore. i had this same issue, except i actually RMAd my psu, and they sent me a new one, but i got the new psu and same problem!! kept power failing like when it doesnt like the voltages in the bios. all you need to do is reseat, and everyone lies.. if you didnt reseat just go ahead and do it. use a can of air, i had a piece of cat hair in my DDR2_1 slot and it gave me a power error. now my computer works. i hope this helps you.

    remember, can of air, blow out pcie/ddr/sata/cpu slots/sockets.
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    Default Re: Could this be my PSU or my GA-EP45-DS3R?

    There's no beeping sound. I've never heard any beep. Just checked it again, no beeps.

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    Default Re: Could this be my PSU or my GA-EP45-DS3R?

    well certainly there must be a beep, do you not have a motherboard speaker? theres always a power beep when you turn your machine on. Power on>short beep>POST.
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    Default Re: Could this be my PSU or my GA-EP45-DS3R?

    Well, I just realized that case I'm using (Antec P180) doesn't come with the internal speaker wire for the board, so that's why I've never heard any start up beep. My mobo does make noise, though. It gave me this long and loud continuous beeping noise this one time when I forgot to hook up the 6-pins PCI-E connector to the 9800gt...and that was the only beeping noise I've ever heard from the board.

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