Please report all spam threads, posts and suspicious members. We receive spam notifications and will take immediate action!
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 21 to 30 of 30

Thread: How Do I Get the Standard Speed From GA-EP45T-UD3LR?




  1. #21
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    J'Habite En Angleterre
    Posts
    2,431

    Default Re: How Do I Get the Standard Speed From GA-EP45T-UD3LR?

    If the reaction of Linux is the same as Windows to slightly off settings, then the CRC error was nothing to worry about really. In Windows, when certain settings are off, problems may occur in the boot process. I've had messages warning me of corrupted files only to boot fine when restoring stable settings, with no damage. As always though, definitely make sure everything is backed up. If your data is unique and/or valuable, it's better safe than sorry.

    On a side note the CRC error is probably to do with your MCH Reference needing to be tweaked. On the fly incription/decription can be MCH/RAM intensive as well as CPU intensive to a point.

    If you have enough drive space or a spare disk, would you have any objections to installing Windows 7 RC? There are many more tools available, such as vital stability testing programs that don't exist for Linux and don't have the desired effect when run in WINE, due to them needing a native Windows system to fully stress components. I and others are also much more Windows oriented. I've used Linux and enjoyed it, it's fantastic for image editing, web browsing, video transcoding etc, but I fond myself going back to Windows for its familiarity, easier driver installs (for me) and the fact that I'm into video gaming.
    Coolermaster CM 690 II advance Case
    Corsair HX750 (CWT, 91%(80+ Gold rated @230V) single 62A 12V rail
    P55A-UD4 v2.0 @ F14
    Core i5 760 @ 20 x 201, 4.02GHz
    TRUE Black with a single Noctua NF-P12 pumping out 55 CFM @ 19db .
    2 x 2GB Mushkin Ridgeback (996902), @ 7-10-8-27, 2010-DDR, 1.66v
    2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 1024MB in SLI (Pre OC'd to 715MHz core and 1800MHz VRAM) @ 850 Core / 4100 Mem.
    Intel X25-M Boot Drive (OS and Programs) 200MB/s Read & 90MB/s Write
    Corsair X32 200MB/s Read & 100MB/s Write
    WD Caviar Blue 640GB C (Steam, Games, Storage, Temp Files & Folders, etc)
    Samsung F3 500GB Backup/Images
    Noctua 1300RPM 19dB case fan (rear extraction)
    3 x 140 MM Coolermaster LED fans (one front intake, one top extraction, one side intake)
    Dell Ultra Sharp 2209WAf E-IPS @ 1680x1050

  2. #22
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    11

    Default Re: How Do I Get the Standard Speed From GA-EP45T-UD3LR?

    I'm glad to hear the disk reading errors are probably nothing to worry about. Yes, I do have everything backed up, so it wouldn't be the end of the world if I killed the drive, it just wouldn't be fun to have to reinstall.

    I guess running Win 7 RC in a virtual machine probably wouldn't work, would it? I did download a copy of the RC and could install it in VirtualBox, I suppose. I really don't want to partition this drive to do a separate install of Window$...

  3. #23
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    J'Habite En Angleterre
    Posts
    2,431

    Default Re: How Do I Get the Standard Speed From GA-EP45T-UD3LR?

    I understand your concerns RE data integrity. re-installing is never fun, and always seems like robbed time.

    I must confess that I'm not too knowledgable when it comes to VM's. I understand that it's a form of emulation though in a way. Is this a correct assumption? If so it would probably not be a good idea to run stability tests in a virtual environment. There's no way to be sure that anything reported by the program, either errors or lack thereof is accurate.

    Does Linux have any tools that can shrink partitions? Windows 7 has the ability to shrink a non OS partition by a specified amount, then create a new partition in the empty space. If you could do something like that, then delete Win 7 and merge the partitions when done, it would minimize the inconvenience. The other alternative is of course unhooking your Linux/data drive(s) then using a spare just for Win 7. Not everyone will have a spare drive to hand though of course.
    Coolermaster CM 690 II advance Case
    Corsair HX750 (CWT, 91%(80+ Gold rated @230V) single 62A 12V rail
    P55A-UD4 v2.0 @ F14
    Core i5 760 @ 20 x 201, 4.02GHz
    TRUE Black with a single Noctua NF-P12 pumping out 55 CFM @ 19db .
    2 x 2GB Mushkin Ridgeback (996902), @ 7-10-8-27, 2010-DDR, 1.66v
    2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 1024MB in SLI (Pre OC'd to 715MHz core and 1800MHz VRAM) @ 850 Core / 4100 Mem.
    Intel X25-M Boot Drive (OS and Programs) 200MB/s Read & 90MB/s Write
    Corsair X32 200MB/s Read & 100MB/s Write
    WD Caviar Blue 640GB C (Steam, Games, Storage, Temp Files & Folders, etc)
    Samsung F3 500GB Backup/Images
    Noctua 1300RPM 19dB case fan (rear extraction)
    3 x 140 MM Coolermaster LED fans (one front intake, one top extraction, one side intake)
    Dell Ultra Sharp 2209WAf E-IPS @ 1680x1050

  4. #24
    Chike is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Israel
    Posts
    6,531

    Default Re: How Do I Get the Standard Speed From GA-EP45T-UD3LR?

    Quote Originally Posted by linux4me View Post
    I guess running Win 7 RC in a virtual machine probably wouldn't work, would it? I did download a copy of the RC and could install it in VirtualBox, I suppose. I really don't want to partition this drive to do a separate install of Window$...
    Your CPU supports Intel® Virtualization Technology, your BIOS can enable it, Linux kernel support it too.
    I am not familier with VirtualBox but virtual machine should now work better then it have before.
    Last edited by Chike; 07-17-2009 at 09:13 AM. Reason: KVM link

  5. #25
    Lsdmeasap's Avatar
    Lsdmeasap is offline GIGABYTE Guru
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    PCB Island
    Posts
    25,940

    Default Re: How Do I Get the Standard Speed From GA-EP45T-UD3LR?

    + 1 ^^

    Just be sure to enable it in the BIOS and set it according to your system MAIN OS x86/x64

  6. #26
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    11

    Default Re: How Do I Get the Standard Speed From GA-EP45T-UD3LR?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho101 View Post
    I understand your concerns RE data integrity. re-installing is never fun, and always seems like robbed time.

    I must confess that I'm not too knowledgable when it comes to VM's. I understand that it's a form of emulation though in a way. Is this a correct assumption? If so it would probably not be a good idea to run stability tests in a virtual environment. There's no way to be sure that anything reported by the program, either errors or lack thereof is accurate.

    Does Linux have any tools that can shrink partitions? Windows 7 has the ability to shrink a non OS partition by a specified amount, then create a new partition in the empty space. If you could do something like that, then delete Win 7 and merge the partitions when done, it would minimize the inconvenience. The other alternative is of course unhooking your Linux/data drive(s) then using a spare just for Win 7. Not everyone will have a spare drive to hand though of course.
    Yes, Linux has some tools that can shrink partitions, so what you suggest is possible. I just don't have the space on this drive to spare. In fact, that's why I haven't set up the VM for Win 7 yet. I'd have to remove some stuff. At the moment I have spares of everything but drives at the moment. It figures.

    Here are the settings I tried to get the 1600 out of my RAM with the 7.5 multiplier and the 400 FSB as you suggested that gives me a CRC error:

    CPU = Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0 GHz 1333 MHz FSB
    Motherboard = GA-EP45T-UD3LR
    BIOS Version = F5
    Ram = 8 GB (2 GB X 4) OCZ (model OCZ3N1800SR4GK) PC3 14400 1.9v DDR3 SDRAM
    ******************************
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    ******************************
    Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ......................: [7x]
    x Fine CPU Clock Ratio................: [+0.5]
    CPU Frequency ........................: 3.00 GHz (400 x 7.5)
    ********** Clock Chip Control ********
    >>>>> Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control................: [Manual]
    x CPU Host Frequency(Mhz).............: [400]
    PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)............: [100]
    C.I.A.2...............................: [Disabled]
    >>>>> Advanced Clock Control..........: [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive.......................: [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive...............: [800mV]
    CPU Clock Skew........................: [0]
    MCH Clock Skew........................: [0]
    ******** DRAM Performance Control ********
    Performance Enhance...................: [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile(X.M.P.)........: [] - don't have this one
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........: [4.00B]
    Memory Frequency(Mhz).............: 1066 1600
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [Manual]
    >>>>> Standard Timing Control
    x CAS Latency Time.............7......: [8]
    x tRCD ........................7......: [8]
    x tRP..........................7......: [8]
    x tRAS.........................16.....: [27]
    >>>>> Advanced Timing Control.........: [Press Enter]
    x tRRD.........................4......: [Auto]
    x tWTR.........................4......: [Auto]
    x tWR..........................8......: [Auto]
    x tRFC.........................60.....: [85]
    x tRTP.........................4......: [Auto]
    x Command Rate (CMD) ..........0......: [2]
    >>>>> Channel A Timing Settings
    x Static tRead Value.............7...: [8]
    >>>>> Channel B Timing Settings
    x Static tRead Value.............7...: [8]
    >>>>> Channel A Driving Settings
    x Driving Strength Profile..........: [Auto]
    >>>>> Channel B Driving Settings
    x Driving Strength Profile............: [Auto]

    ****** Motherboard Voltage Control ******
    Voltage Types..........Normal...........Current
    -----------------------------------------------
    >>> CPU
    Load-Line Calibration.................: [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore..............1.30000......: [Auto]
    CPU Termination........1.200......: [Auto] 1.22 gave me "invalid compressed format" error
    CPU PLL................1.550......: [Auto]
    CPU Reference..........0.805......: [Auto]
    >>> MCH/ICH
    MCH Core...............1.100......: [Auto]
    MCH Reference..........0.760......: [Auto]
    MCH/DRAM Reference...........: [Auto]
    ICH I/O................1.550......: [Auto]
    ICH Core...............1.100......: [Auto]
    >>> DRAM
    DRAM Voltage...........1.500......: [1.900V]
    DRAM Termination.......0.750......: [Auto]
    Channel A Reference..........: [] - don't have this one
    Channel B Reference..........: [] - don't have this one

    I tried with tRFC at 60 and at 85 as shown here and it didn't seem to make any difference. (The OCZ forums recommended a tRFC of 72-88 with 8 GB of RAM.)

    Unless you guys can see something obvious that should be changed, I don't want to monopolize any more of your time on this. I think I will just be happy with the way it is.

  7. #27
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    11

    Default Re: How Do I Get the Standard Speed From GA-EP45T-UD3LR?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chike View Post
    Your CPU supports Intel® Virtualization Technology, your BIOS can enable it, Linux kernel support it too.
    I am not familier with VirtualBox but virtual machine should now work better then it have before.
    Thanks, Chike, I already have virtualization enabled. My VM with a Win XP SP3 guest does run much better on this board/CPU/RAM than it did on my old one.

  8. #28
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    J'Habite En Angleterre
    Posts
    2,431

    Default Re: How Do I Get the Standard Speed From GA-EP45T-UD3LR?

    I notice that clock drive is set to 800mv for both CPU and PCIe. If this is the case then I recommend loading optimized defaults and saving first.

    The setting that causes most Windows based stability problems for me is MCH ref. If everything else is set up perfect, altering this a1-3 steps down from default can mean the difference between an instant fail the second a stability test is started and a 24 hour clear run.

    To adjust MCH ref, it's important that you first set CPU Termination to 1.200V. Now set 0.760V MCH ref, and using Page up/down, reduce it to 0.740V to start with. Now you can restore CPU term to the setting you desire. When you increase CPU term, notice that MCH ref voltage values rise. This is normal, as MCH ref scales as a % of VTT (CPU Term). If you get CRC errors still, again with 1.2VTT set, enter 0.720V for MCH ref, then increase VTT back up.

    Try the following in order:

    1. Set 0.740V MCH Ref at 1.2VTT, leave 1.2VTT and test.
    2. If unstable try 1.22VTT,1.24VTT etc all the way up to one tick under your current Vcore. eg if Vcore is 1.35V try VTT up to 1.34V
    3. If this doesn't work then try 0.720V at 1.2VTT and repeat ine increases in VTT.


    I've also amended your template below. It's vital that you give slightly more Vcore than normal, even though you're running at stock CPU speed. It needs a bit more juice to be able to interface with the increased FSB. The value displayed on the left in the BIOS is the default VID (Voltage ID). Setting 2-3 ticks up from this is perfectly safe. You are covered up to 1.3625V, so a couple of ticks is nothing. Eg if the VID is 1.250V then set around 1.2750-1.28xx.

    The following template contains voltages and timings that are above stock /looser than stock but well within the safe range. This is because of your large amount of RAM, the fact that I'm not 100% sure how far DDR3 can be pushed on sub-timings etc.

    Code:
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) 
    ******************************
    Robust Graphics Booster ..............: [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ......................: [7x]
    x Fine CPU Clock Ratio................: [+0.5]
    CPU Frequency ........................: 3.00 GHz (400 x 7.5)
    ********** Clock Chip Control ********
    >>>>> Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control................: [Manual]
    x CPU Host Frequency(Mhz).............: [400]
    PCI Express Frequency(Mhz)............: [100]
    C.I.A.2...............................: [Disabled]
    >>>>> Advanced Clock Control..........: [Press Enter] 
    CPU Clock Drive.......................: [800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive...............: [800mV]  <-- with optimized defaults this should be 900, don't set manually though, use "Load optimized Defaults"
    CPU Clock Skew........................: [0]
    MCH Clock Skew........................: [0]
    ******** DRAM Performance Control ********
    Performance Enhance...................: [Standard]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch................: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)........: [4.00B]
    Memory Frequency(Mhz).............: 1066 1600
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD)..........: [Manual]
    >>>>> Standard Timing Control
    x CAS Latency Time.............7......: [8]
    x tRCD ........................7......: [8]
    x tRP..........................7......: [8]
    x tRAS.........................16.....: [27]
    >>>>> Advanced Timing Control.........: [Press Enter] 
    x tRRD.........................4......: [5] <--this and below set 1 looser to eliminate timing issues. tRFC is set nice and loose after your research, so 85 is fine.
    x tWTR.........................4......: [5]
    x tWR..........................8......: [9]
    x tRFC.........................60.....: [85]
    x tRTP.........................4......: [5]
    x Command Rate (CMD) ..........0......: [2]
    >>>>> Channel A Timing Settings
    x Static tRead Value.............7...: [9]
    >>>>> Channel B Timing Settings
    x Static tRead Value.............7...: [9]
    >>>>> Channel A Driving Settings 
    x Driving Strength Profile..........: [Auto] <-- try setting as close to 1600 as you are able to select
    >>>>> Channel B Driving Settings 
    x Driving Strength Profile............: [Auto]<--try setting as close to 1600 as you are able to select
    
    ****** Motherboard Voltage Control ******
    Voltage Types..........Normal...........Current
    -----------------------------------------------
    >>> CPU
    Load-Line Calibration.................: [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore..............1.30000......: [Auto] <--Set 2-3 ticks up from the value that's shown on the left.
    CPU Termination........1.200......: [Auto]<-- Don't leave on Auto, as it can be dangerous. See main body of my post for how to set.
    CPU PLL................1.550......: [1.57]
    CPU Reference..........0.805......: [Auto] <--Auto is OK.
    >>> MCH/ICH
    MCH Core...............1.100......: [1.240V]<-- You may need less or more. Maybe more due to the amount of RAM
    MCH Reference..........0.760......: [Auto] <-- see main body of my post for how to set
    MCH/DRAM Reference...........: [Auto]
    ICH I/O................1.550......: [Auto] <--Manually set to the voltage indicated on the left.
    ICH Core...............1.100......: [1.100V] <--Any problems with USB, PCIe or HDD controllers, try 1.200V thou 99% sure it's not necessary and 1.100V is fine.
    >>> DRAM
    DRAM Voltage...........1.500......: [1.900V]
    DRAM Termination.......0.750......: [Auto]<-- Fine on Auto for this clock.
    I know it seems like a lot of stuff to do, however it's really only a hour or two if everything goes well. You have a backup, and Linux is more robust than Windows IMO when it comes to file corruption etc, so I'm positive you will have no trouble. Getting 1600 or more on the RAM will be worth it for the type of system usage.

    @ Lsdmeasap:

    As you know I'm not a DDR3 user so if you have any suggestions should there be stability problems, your input would be invaluable. I've just followed the universal rule of more MHz = looser timings, which is the safe route. I'd never recommend settings if I wasn't 100% sure there would be no data loss and this means that things may be set too loose, meaning some wasted performance.
    Coolermaster CM 690 II advance Case
    Corsair HX750 (CWT, 91%(80+ Gold rated @230V) single 62A 12V rail
    P55A-UD4 v2.0 @ F14
    Core i5 760 @ 20 x 201, 4.02GHz
    TRUE Black with a single Noctua NF-P12 pumping out 55 CFM @ 19db .
    2 x 2GB Mushkin Ridgeback (996902), @ 7-10-8-27, 2010-DDR, 1.66v
    2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 1024MB in SLI (Pre OC'd to 715MHz core and 1800MHz VRAM) @ 850 Core / 4100 Mem.
    Intel X25-M Boot Drive (OS and Programs) 200MB/s Read & 90MB/s Write
    Corsair X32 200MB/s Read & 100MB/s Write
    WD Caviar Blue 640GB C (Steam, Games, Storage, Temp Files & Folders, etc)
    Samsung F3 500GB Backup/Images
    Noctua 1300RPM 19dB case fan (rear extraction)
    3 x 140 MM Coolermaster LED fans (one front intake, one top extraction, one side intake)
    Dell Ultra Sharp 2209WAf E-IPS @ 1680x1050

  9. #29
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    11

    Default Re: How Do I Get the Standard Speed From GA-EP45T-UD3LR?

    Hey Psycho,

    When attempting to use the settings you suggested for the initial trial, I noticed a couple of things that I wasn't able to configure according to your suggestions, which may explain why the machine wouldn't post:

    • 800mV is the optimized default for CPU Clock Drive and PCIe Clock Drive.
    • "Auto" is the only option I have for Driving Strength Profile. I couldn't see a way to change it.
    • CPU PLL options jump from 1.550 to 1.650, so I couldn't try a setting of 1.570.

    I tried all the other first-go-round settings and the machine wouldn't post. It just clicked a few times with no display output and restarted with the failsafe defaults. I'm going to play around with it a little more to see if I can figure out what I'm doing wrong.

  10. #30
    Chike is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Israel
    Posts
    6,531

    Default Re: How Do I Get the Standard Speed From GA-EP45T-UD3LR?

    Quote Originally Posted by linux4me View Post
    Drive.
    • "Auto" is the only option I have for Driving Strength Profile. I couldn't see a way to change it.
    .
    Could it be that this optios does not apply to DDR3?

Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •