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    Default need to tweak ep45ds3l

    Hello ,well i bought a new lcd a 1920x1080 res 21.5 LG monitor .This is an upgrade from my 15 LCD And now that I can play my games at higher res ive noticed some issues like studdering.When I built this system I thought it was bullet. Mabey I expected to much.
    Ive tried a little overclocking with minimal success on this system again mabey I expect too much like the old celery tweaking days.
    Id like to hit 4.0 ghz on air cooling is this practical or should I be thinking upgrade? Any and all help greatly appreciated

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................:10x
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:0 greyed out
    CPU Frequency ...........................:2.66Ghz (266x10) greyed out


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................:disabled
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............:mhz 266
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:auto

    C.I.A.2 .................................:disabled


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: 800
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: 0


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................:turbo
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....:auto
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............:auto
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)..............:auto
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1066 1066 both greyed out
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................:auto

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5 5
    tRCD .........................................5 5
    tRP'...........................................5 5
    tRAS..........................................11 15


    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................aut o
    tWTR..........................................auto
    tWR............................................aut o
    tRFC...........................................aut o
    tRTP...........................................aut o
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:auto

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................auto

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:4 auto
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:1 auto all greyed out
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:1 auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:auto
    ddr write training......................:auto
    Channel B
    Channel BStatic tRead Value.........................:4 auto
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:0 auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:0 auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:1 auto all greyed out
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:1 auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:8 auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:8 auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:7
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:9
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:auto
    ddr write training......................:auto


    Motherboard Voltage Control
    Voltage Type normal current
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….………........1.2125......: auto

    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......: auto

    CPU PLL…………………....1.550V*.......: auto

    CPU Referen.…………....0.805V*.......:auto



    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........:auto
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V...........;auto

    ICH I/O……………….....1.55V............: auto

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............: auto
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............:auto
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............:auto
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............:auto

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................:disabled
    No-Execute Memory Protect............:enabled
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................:disabled
    C2/C2E State Support....................:disabled
    x C4/C4E State Support..................:disabled greyed out
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........:enabled
    CPU EIST Function.........................:disabled




    heres my current settings
    Last edited by tweakn; 07-18-2009 at 07:08 AM. Reason: punctuation
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    Default Re: need to tweak ep45ds3l

    With some pacience and a little luck you might just make it to 4Ghz or even more, but even if you can only get 3.6-3.8Ghz that are very likely doable, what's to it? You still gain 35-42 gain in horse power and get to squeeze the most out of you memory that was just made for 400FSB.
    Post your current settings in a template that match your board settings and I'm sure someone will be happy to guide you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tweakn View Post
    Id like to hit 4.0 ghz on air cooling is this practical or should I be thinking upgrade? Any and all help greatly appreciated
    Keep upgrading.. Hitting 4ghz on your E7300 is not gonna be a walk in the park.

    Now maybe if you had at least an E8400, that would be a completely different story.


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    Default Re: need to tweak ep45ds3l

    Ive got lots of patience and my template is optimized defualts no tweaks yet
    Is There a template for my specs? Or with the specs I should be using? Ive spent many hours tweaking settings and found minimal gain useing game play fps as my benchmark. I dont really fully understand all the bios settings theres to many options. Ive tried all the different dividers makes little difference all work but doesnt make any performance gain What I need is some tutoring
    thanks again
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    Quote Originally Posted by tweakn View Post
    Ive spent many hours tweaking settings and found minimal gain useing game play fps as my benchmark. I dont really fully understand all the bios settings theres to many options. Ive tried all the different dividers makes little difference all work but doesnt make any performance gain What I need is some tutoring
    If you are talking about memory timings than you should be aware that 266FSB can benefit from memory speed up to DDR-800, anything above that would make very little difference in memory benchmarks, and none you can tell in normal use (games etc.)
    To take full advantage of your DDR-1200 you need at least 400FSB.

    With a multiplier of 10 it might get you to your desired 4Ghz if you're lucky.

    FPS in video games depend on CPU power, but most of all on the video card, if it reaches it's limit, no processor is going to make any difference.
    As I have less than little knowledge about video cards, you'd have to wait for a comment about yours from someone who does.

    Here is a template that might be good for your board. Ignore the values in it and replace them with your own. If there's missing settings you can add them and delete those you don't have, then post it back for ppl to have a reference to, and you'd keep changing it and posting it as you encounter obsticles along the way..
    Last edited by Chike; 07-18-2009 at 04:13 AM.

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    Default Re: need to tweak ep45ds3l

    thanks for the template Should be useful when i get to tweaking but no system has no tweaks just bios optimized I need the blanks filled in
    Last edited by tweakn; 07-18-2009 at 06:54 AM.
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    Default Re: need to tweak ep45ds3l

    I did not eman delete the values, put your values in wether auto or set manually, and the values shown on the left too.
    I meant if it has a value entry that your moard don't have, delete that entry, if there is one that is missing add it.
    Sorry if I wasn't clear about this.

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    Sound advice so far.

    Going from a 15in screen (1280x1024 or maybe even 1024x768?) to a 1920x1080 is a big jump. You're GFX card is processing just over 1.3 million pixels at 1280x1024, but needs to work about 700,000 more at your new resolution.

    A faster CPU will always help, but after about 3.4GHz, all but the most CPU intensive games will be more GPU bound. If you're running at stock speed on the CPU atm, overclocking to at least 3.4GHz will do wonders for your frame rates. As you get over this mark, you will see improvements, but they will be considerably less MHz for MHz after this point.

    For example on my old Q8200 stock 2.33GHz, with Far Cry 2 I was getting ~30 FPS as a minimum frame rate using the benchmarking utility at my chosen settings. Overclocking to 3.2GHz bought this up to a whopping 55-57 FPS minimum. My average frame rate at 2.33GHz literally became my minimum at 3.4GHz, and I got averages then of over 70 FPS with peaks of over 100.

    As a realistic goal, go for 3.4-3.6GHz initially on your CPU. E7xxx series are great chips but aren't as highly binned as the E8xxx series. Getting to 4GHz air cooled on reasonable voltages would only be possible on the top 2-3% of E7xxx's. I'm giving 1.425V (1.48-something in the BIOS) to be stable at 3.9GHz with mine. It took me a week of over night testing and countless restarts and problems to get here, and then just as long to tune performance, timings and voltages as high/low as they could go.

    Chike seems to have an exceptional chip. The way Intel works is to make only a few variations of the same CPU and test the quality of the silicone produced before deciding what Exxx they should be. The best stuff is put into the E8xxx pile, then it's further "binned" to decide which E8xxx series.

    Sometimes there will be for example, an E8xxx grade chip that has some faulty cache. If possible, Intel could disable 3MB of cache, then place the chip in the E7xxx pile. Anyone getting this CPU would possibly have an awesome overclocker, capable of much more than a regular CPU of the same model, as it's premium silicone in disguise.
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    If i could reach 3.33 ghz id be happy. but fsb speeds lower than that hang my games Im better off playing at stock speeds at least the games dont hang but can get a little choppy when lots going on with full blown graphics and res.
    Ive heard of chip to chip stick to stick mb mb if thats my issue well im a gotta see it to beleive it type of guy. Im just looking to try some settings beyond that are beyond my tweaking days
    I added my current bios config template to first post so any one can jump right in I guess I dont need to now why just the best values voltages that work
    Thanks again
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    Quote Originally Posted by tweakn View Post
    If i could reach 3.33 ghz id be happy. but fsb speeds lower than that hang my games Im better off playing at stock speeds at least the games dont hang but can get a little choppy when lots going on with full blown graphics and res.
    Anyone who can read can reach 3.33, to reace a stable 3.33 yake a little more than that. Not much just a little.

    Quote Originally Posted by tweakn
    Ive heard of chip to chip stick to stick mb mb if thats my issue well im a gotta see it to beleive it type of guy. Im just looking to try some settings beyond that are beyond my tweaking days
    Fiddeling with settings will maybe get you there but in a long time, firsy you need to know the basics.

    Quote Originally Posted by tweakn
    I added my current bios config template to first post so any one can jump right in I guess I dont need to now why just the best values voltages that work
    If you want an instant OC that's fine. A lot will be happy to post a template and say try this, not me.
    I can only show you some of the way, but you are the one that will gave to walk through it.
    And BTW don't save forum paper, we can't go back each time to the first thread, repost tham as they changed, and wrap them with code tag (the # icon on the post editor)


    The first basic, load optimized defaults if you havn't already.
    The second, set PCI clock manually before OC to 100Mhz.
    Third, change turno to standard.

    Now, I suggest you leave memory tweaks to the end if OC is what you going to do, but we still want them at max speed.
    To do this select the apropriate XMS profile (if you have more than one, the one that gives the highest speed.)
    Set DRAM Voltage according yo the RAM specs at DDR-1200.
    Set the highest multiplier for your current strap (FSB, there's a table that shows wich one belong to what strap on the right,), that does not exceed DDR-1200. You will have to change multiplier again when you change FSB.
    Change timings to manual, but leave all on auto while OCing, with the exception of Static tRead Value, for a start leave it on auto. If it does not work in 266FSB try to set yt manually, to 7 or 8.
    This should get you best auto RAM speed in any FSB.
    T
    ry this for a start. no OC yet, as I am not familiar with all P45 votage options and they may need tweaking while OCing, , so I'll leabe that to someone who does.

    You won't experiance any noticeable improvement yet as RAM does not have that effect above DDR-800 at 266FSB.
    Last edited by Chike; 07-18-2009 at 08:55 AM.

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