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    Default UD3LR 8gb memory crash

    Alright ever since i opened it out of the box the PC would be incredibly unstable with 4 sticks of ram in. So i decieded to remove the last stick of RAM from slot 4.
    The mode chagned to FLEX instead of Interleaved :(, but it runs stable i think the slot is broke. Though i would appreciate some help.

    I did send a email to Gigabyte but they havent responded in 2 days :(

    The BSOD were as follows not in order

    Driver_Irql_not_less_or_equal
    0xd1
    ACPI.sys

    System_service_exception(while playing a game)
    0x3b
    Nvlddm?

    another one with win32k.sys

    also Page_fault_in_non_paged_area or similar







    This by the way is my first build.


    Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775
    Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops

    OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W
    Newegg.com - OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply compatible with core i7 - Power Supplies

    GIGABYTE GA-EP45T-UD3LR LGA
    Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-EP45T-UD3LR LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3
    Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL8D-4GBHK - Desktop Memory


    all in a antec 300 witha zalman 9700NT coming and 2 more fans

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    Default Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

    Seems like a memory problem.
    Load optimized defaults.
    With with 4 memory modules you probably need more MCH Core. Try 1.2v, 1.24-1.26v may be needed.
    Find a template that match your board in the forum (sorry I'm on my laptop, don't have the links here,) fill it with your own settings, the suggested and actual settings, and post it back wraped with code tags (select the text and click the # icon on the top of the post editor.)
    A screen capture of MemSet window (click >> to show both channel, and SPD (click spd,) and EasyTune advanced voltage settings will be helpful too.

    Please fill your signature with your system spec and link to your memory page for better reference.

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    Default Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

    I hope this helps



    Code:
    CPU = Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775
    Motherboard = GA-EP45T-UD3LR 
    BIOS Version = F5	
    Ram = G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) F3-10666CL8D-4GBHK (i have 4)
    
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio .............................: 9x (default 8x - down clocked cpu)
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:0.0
    CPU Frequency ..............................:3.00 GHz (333 x 9) 
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: Disabled
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............:333
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Auto
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: Turbo <<Set to "Standard"
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: off (default On)
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............:Auto
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: Auto
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1333 1333
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................:Auto >>manual
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................:9		set to 8
    tRCD .............................................:9 	set to 8
    tRP.................................................:9        set to 8
    tRAS..............................................:24	set to 21
    
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................:8   set to 5
    tWTR..........................................:5    set to 5		
    tWR............................................:12  set to 8
    tRFC...........................................:74  set to 72
    tRTP...........................................:8    set to 5
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:0
    
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:7
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:7
    
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….………................................: 1.265
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*...............:   1.200V
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......:      		1.500v
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*...........:
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........:1.1v
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V............:0.760v
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V..............:missing or above
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............: 1.5050v
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V...........:1.1v
    
    DRAM 
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............:1.5v      set to 1.6v
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............:0.750v
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............:missing
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............:missing
    Last edited by milkman6453; 07-24-2009 at 12:34 PM.
    GA-EP45T-UD3LR Rev#: 1.0 - F7
    Intel Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775
    Zalman 9700NT + 2 Synthe case fans
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    EVGA 512-P3-N976-AR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
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    Default Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

    There are some inconsistancies between the EasyTune and the settings, MCH Core for example, I don't know what to think, please review the template. There are some settings missing like Advanced Clock Control. They are not realy relevant but may indicate if you have started by loading optimized defaults. Also Extreme Memory Profile is missing, and it is relevant. Same goes to System Memory Multiplier and (G)MCH Frequency Latch, please add them.

    You can use the template in this post, even though it states it is for EP43-UDxx, it seems it has all that is applicable to your board and even more.

    Before you do any chnages save current setting profile. In BIOS main screen press F11 and save the settings in an empty slot. Later they can be loaded with F12.

    One thing in your settings that may be a problem is the Static tRead Value.
    If you haven't load optimized defaults, it is advised that you do so.
    Set Performance Enhance to standard, memory voltage manually and MCH Core to 1.2v (1.24-1.26v may be needed.)

    As you can see in the SPD XMP#1 profile, the advanced settings could be even tighter. Therefore my suggestion is to set XMP on auto or select an XMP profile and leave DRAM timings on auto, standard and advanced, unless you realy know what you are doing, otherwise it is just guessing.

    I suggest XMP profile auto/profile1(whatever it shows there) DRAM Timing Selectable manual, all timings on auto, Static tRead Value 9(you may lower it later,) and see how that goes.

    If you decide to make these changes, please post an updated template and a screan capture of MemSet main window (no need for SPD,) and EasyTune again.

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    Default Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

    Alright after setting it all according to what you say i will test it with the 4th RAM peice in here are my settings

    Optimized settings


    As per your request settings


    like i said in the settings gigabyte said to bumb up the dram voltage to 1.6v
    and to "change the system memory multiplier, change it to 1066 if it is configured as 1333"
    but my ram is 1333 memory i want 1333 memory
    testing settings now






    Code:
    CPU = Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775
    Motherboard = GA-EP45T-UD3LR 
    BIOS Version = F5	
    Ram = G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) F3-10666CL8D-4GBHK
    
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio .............................: 9x (default 8x - down clocked cpu)
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:0.0
    CPU Frequency ..............................:3.00 GHz (333 x 9) 
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: Disabled
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 333
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Auto
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: Turbo <<Set to "Standard"
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Set to Profile 1
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............:Auto
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: Auto
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1333 1333
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................:Auto
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................:8		All on Auto	
    tRCD .............................................:8	
    tRP.................................................:8  
    tRAS..............................................:21
    
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................:4 	All on auto  
    tWTR...........................................:5  		
    tWR............................................:10  
    tRFC...........................................:60  
    tRTP...........................................:5
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:0
    
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:was 7 set to 9
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:was 7 set to 9
    
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….………................................: 1.265
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*...............:   1.200V
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......:      		1.500v
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*...........:
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: set to 1.2
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V............: 0.760
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V..............:missing?
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............:1.550v
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V...........:1.1v
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............:1.5 gigabyte tech support said set to 1.6 havent yet.
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............:0.750
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............:missing
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............:missing
    GA-EP45T-UD3LR Rev#: 1.0 - F7
    Intel Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775
    Zalman 9700NT + 2 Synthe case fans
    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 - http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=95 running @ 9-9-9-9-24
    EVGA 512-P3-N976-AR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
    OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2
    ViewSonic vx2265wm @1680x1050 120Hz

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    Default Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

    Code:
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Set to Profile 1
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............:Auto
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: Auto
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 1333 1333 >> now running at 1066 and stable
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................:Auto
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................:8		All on Auto	
    tRCD .............................................:8	
    tRP.................................................:8  
    tRAS..............................................:21
    
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................:4 	All on auto  
    tWTR...........................................:5  		
    tWR............................................:10  
    tRFC...........................................:60  
    tRTP...........................................:5
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:0
    
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:was 7 set to 9
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:was 7 set to 9
    
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    CPU Vcore….………................................: 1.265
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*...............:   1.200V
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......:      		1.500v
    CPU Referen.…………....0.755V*...........:
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........: set to 1.2
    MCH Reference….…….0.800V............: 0.760
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V..............:missing?
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............:1.550v
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V...........:1.1v
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............:1.5 gigabyte tech support said set to 1.6 havent yet.
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............:0.750
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............:missing
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............:missing
    Last edited by milkman6453; 07-25-2009 at 03:10 AM.
    GA-EP45T-UD3LR Rev#: 1.0 - F7
    Intel Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775
    Zalman 9700NT + 2 Synthe case fans
    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 - http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=95 running @ 9-9-9-9-24
    EVGA 512-P3-N976-AR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
    OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2
    ViewSonic vx2265wm @1680x1050 120Hz

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    Default Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

    Quote Originally Posted by milkman6453 View Post
    like i said in the settings gigabyte said to bumb up the dram voltage to 1.6v
    and to "change the system memory multiplier, change it to 1066 if it is configured as 1333"
    but my ram is 1333 memory i want 1333 memory
    testing settings now
    You want DDR-1333 - you got it! No need to change anything.
    Relax, everything is just fine, look at memory line in MemSet, says 667MHz. It's a DDR (Double Data Rate) so it's 667x2-1334, it's all good.
    You also got the right timings from XMS profile 8-8-8-21.
    Set DRAM Voltage auto and see if it sets it to 1.6(go to BIOS HW Monitor after saving BIOS and see what it is.) If it's not 1.6v set it manually to 1.6 as your memory requires.

    If everything is stable with the fourth module. try the Static tRead to auto.
    Basically there's no more changes you need to do, unless you still have problems.
    Keep is posted.
    Last edited by Chike; 07-25-2009 at 03:10 AM. Reason: corrected Static tRead

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    Default Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

    Thats when i was at 1333 now that i set it to 1066 memset changed it now says

    fsb/dram 5:8

    Memory DDR2 534.3Mhz Size=4 x 2048 Chan Dual

    hmm it seems more settings changed uploading image now

    Last edited by milkman6453; 07-25-2009 at 03:33 AM.
    GA-EP45T-UD3LR Rev#: 1.0 - F7
    Intel Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775
    Zalman 9700NT + 2 Synthe case fans
    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 - http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=95 running @ 9-9-9-9-24
    EVGA 512-P3-N976-AR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
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    Default Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

    Quote Originally Posted by milkman6453 View Post
    Thats when i was at 1333 now that i set it to 1066 memset changed it now says

    fsb/dram 5:8

    Memory DDR2 534.3Mhz Size=4 x 2048 Chan Dual
    Well that I leave for you to decide, There is no much difference between 1066 and 1333 with 333FSB.
    If you want 1333 leave it on auto as before, if you want 1066 you may even set tCL to 7 or even 6 manually (BIOS attempts to keep this value no matter what memory speed it,) but to tell you for sure I'll need your memory SPD profile.
    The timings are changed according to memory speed, this is perfectly normal.

    EDIT: BTW, no need for SPD window anymore, it was only needed once, it never changes :-)

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    Default Re: UD3LR 8gb memory crash

    well when i set it to 1333 it crashes how can i use 1333 stable.

    Also could you help me get the bios tweaked so i can get the most out of my components?
    GA-EP45T-UD3LR Rev#: 1.0 - F7
    Intel Q9650 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775
    Zalman 9700NT + 2 Synthe case fans
    G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 - http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=95 running @ 9-9-9-9-24
    EVGA 512-P3-N976-AR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3
    OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2
    ViewSonic vx2265wm @1680x1050 120Hz

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