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    Default Problem GA-MA790X-DS4 and PATRIOT VIPER 2x2GB 800 MHZ

    Hi. I have a question to the members forum. My Computer Specs: Athlon x 2 4600, the 2x2 Patriot viper 800MHz, Gigabyte GA-ma790x-ds4, Amacrox Warrior 400watt, galaxy 9600gt. I have such a problem. When you lift up above 256mhz fsb to restart the computer after you reset the bus and RAM. At 255 fsb is everything all right. I do not know whether to move an option in the BIOS if something is wrong. Please help.

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    Default Re: Problem GA-MA790X-DS4 and PATRIOT VIPER 2x2GB 800 MHZ

    I'm not up-to-date with current AMD systems, but did you change the memory multiplier (don't know what it's called in your BIOS)? By increasing the HTT (="FSB") you also increase the RAM speed, so this may be why your system isn't booting anymore (it should be pretty usntable at 255MHz though...).


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    Default Re: Problem GA-MA790X-DS4 and PATRIOT VIPER 2x2GB 800 MHZ

    Reducing the memory multiplier gives nothing. The computer can easily operate at higher FSB (HTT) from 256 up to several hours in orthos, and there is no problem with stability. Conversely, if you turn off and then turn on the computer restores the original frequency. What could be the problem?
    Last edited by grajkos; 07-26-2009 at 04:46 AM.

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    Default Re: Problem GA-MA790X-DS4 and PATRIOT VIPER 2x2GB 800 MHZ

    Below is Gigabytes memory QVL for the GA-MA790X-DS4
    http://www.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memo...ma790x-ds4.pdf
    DDR2 Voltage Control
    Allows you to to set memory voltage.
    Normal Supplies the memory voltage as required. (Default)
    +0.025V ~ +0.375V Increases memory voltage by 0.025V to 0.375V at 0.025V increment.
    By auto settings it will be on 1.8v at about (1.9v)
    For the Patriot Viper 800Mhz Extreme performance brand Part Number PVS24G6400LLK The voltage should be manually adjusted to equal close to 2.2v, and Timings should be loosened to about 5-5-5-15.
    The Patriot Viper 800Mhz Extreme performance Gaming Series. Part number PGS28G6400ELK should be @1.9v and 5-5-5-12 timing. They have quite a few different Patriot Viper series modules. They have a Viper 800Mhz/Futuremark bundle PVS24G6400LLKNB @ 2.1v 4-4-4-12, and a Viper Series Designed for NVIDIA PVS24G6400LLKN @2.1v 4-4-4-12. These are just a few I found. Do you know your memory part numbers?
    With a FSB of 255Mhz at DDR 667 memory clock thats about 850DDR on the memory.
    At DDR 800 memory clock it would be about 1020DDR with a 255Mhz FSB. What type of Corsair Dominator do you have? Is it PC2-8500 or PC2-6400? The PC2-8500 should manage that. I do not think the PC2-6400 will go that high.
    http://china.giga-byte.com/FileList/...790x-ds4_e.pdf
    Let us know how that goes.
    Last edited by artdrivers; 07-26-2009 at 10:33 AM.
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    Default Re: Problem GA-MA790X-DS4 and PATRIOT VIPER 2x2GB 800 MHZ

    Part Number PVS24G6400LLK to this memory. Increasing the voltage and timings it does not give. Changing the multiplier on the memory other than the automatic settings will reset to a higher frequency than the FSB 255.

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    Increasing the voltage and timings it does not give.
    OK try this: Boot into bios delete key after you boot into bios the next 2 keys to hit are Ctrl+F1 at the same time or together. In the Main Menu, press CTRL+F1
    to access more advanced options. Then navigate to MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) Then change the System Voltage Control from auto to manual leave this on manual. Now select DDR voltage control. Increases memory voltage to +0.300V at 0.025V increment. Hit F11 to Save CMOS to BIOS Set Memory Clock Now navigate to Set Memory clock change from Auto to Manual leave this on manual Set this at DDR800 This should not change the FSB of the CPU just the memory Clock. But the FSB setting will increase total FSB for memory and CPU so setting it to 255 will cause the DDR to increase as well as the HT link and Northbridge. You should try reducing the FSB for now to it's default of 200Mhz to test the memory Now Hit Esc. Save & Exit Setup
    Save all the changes made in the BIOS Setup program to the CMOS and exit BIOS Setup.
    (Pressing F10 can also carry out this task.) Now reboot and enter Bios again to see if these changes have been changed
    Now navigate to DRAM Configuration DDRII Timing Items Change DDR timing items from Auto to manual. Now the only numbers to change will appear on the left the SPD and Auto values are for reference only. Set them to the SPD values.
    x CAS# latency 4T
    x 1T/2T Command Timing 2T
    x TwTr Command Delay 2T
    x Write Recovery Time 4T
    x Precharge Time 2T
    x Row Cycle Time 17T
    x RAS to CAS R/W Delay 4T
    x RAS to RAS Delay 2T
    x Row Precharge Time 4T
    x Minimum RAS Active Time 12T
    Now Hit Esc. Save & Exit Setup Save all the changes made in the BIOS Setup program to the CMOS and exit BIOS Setup.
    (Pressing F10 can also carry out this task.)
    Now enter Bios again and see if these settings are still set. The only timing numbers that should change are the ones on the left the others are for reference only. Now run a memory tester. Memtest86+ V2.11 (22/12/2008)
    Download link----> http://www.memtest.org/
    When this has been performed with no errors you then should go into bios and Hit F11 to Save CMOS to BIOS. You then can raise FSB a little at a time but watch temperatures and run stability tests. When you raise FSB you are also raising HT frequency and northbridge frequency. If you have a black box edition cpu you can raise the CPU Clock Ratio as well as FSB but I would advise against raising the FSB much if you don't have a Black Box edition cpu.
    So let us know how that goes.
    Last edited by artdrivers; 07-27-2009 at 10:57 AM.
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    Default Re: Problem GA-MA790X-DS4 and PATRIOT VIPER 2x2GB 800 MHZ

    Memtest runs without errors on the default settings. Computer on memclock 800 runs without error on the FSB 250.
    From what is set sb 600 spread spectrum?

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    OK good but at 250FSB you are not at default settings. You are overclocked, so you will want to watch your temperatures. You could post them by downloading and run hardware monitor program. It will show voltages and temps in windows. The vin1 will be memory voltage on the program. CPUID and called HW monitor pro 1.6 it's here------> CPUID
    You can capture the image on your desktop by pressing PrtScn button on your keyboard when the hardware monitor or any program is open on your desktop. Then open paint and edit paste. clip the image, save as type jpeg. Post a picture by clicking go advanced and edit your picture make the picture small enough.
    Here is my results.

    By artdrivers at 2009-06-24
    Last edited by artdrivers; 07-28-2009 at 10:37 PM.
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    http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/FileList...ios_qflash.pdf
    Phenom II 945 @ 3.2Ghz w/Thermaltake Big Typhoon Pro 14 CPU Cooler
    Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H rev.1.1 F11
    Sapphire 3870HD / 100225L / 512MB / ddr4
    4GB / Kingston / KHX8500D2K2/2GN / 5-5-5-18 / 1066Mhz
    (2) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA RAID-0
    (1) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA AHCI
    (2) IDE's 1 8XdualDVDRW 1 52x32x52x CDRW
    Antec /Neo HE550 / 550W
    Mid size ATX case with show through panel
    2) 80x80 front fans (1) 120x120 rear fan and small nb fan
    Microsoft comfort curve USB keyboard 2000 ver.1.0
    Logitech G500 USB mouse
    Monitor: CMV937A
    7.1+2 Channel High Definition ALC889A
    Dual boot Windows 7 32bit home & Windows 7 64bit home


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    Default settings
    Last edited by grajkos; 07-28-2009 at 11:32 PM.

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    Oc (fsb 267)

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