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    Question Upgrade options/opinions

    System now is whats in my sig;
    cheapest
    1.drop in my D820 cpu and run it to the limit,problem there is even if I can get it to 4.5G it would still perform worse than Q8200 at 3.5.
    2.$60 for 4 gb of mem that will go higher than 1030mhz.
    present mem is v v good tho.
    3.ebay presnt cpu before value goes way down(Q8200 for sale,never been overclocked,the usual) and get a E 8xxxx mainly gaming.

    more expensive
    4.ebay Q8200 and get a 9550 or 9650

    5.Go for i7 set up now ..not having won the lotto would seem a waste as Id have a perfectly good 2nd + 3rd pc lying around.

    6.Keep present setup for another year /more? until its definitely"old".

    nb Im not mentioning gx cards as the one I have is ok and the dubious benefits of having 2x$350 gx cards linked dont really appeal to me.
    Current Systems:

    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
    http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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    Default Re: Upgrade options/opinions

    As far as gaming goes you might see the biggest upgrade from a better video card. ATI HD4870s are incredibly cheap and perform way better than a 9600 GT. You'll probably end up havin 50-75% more FPS.

    I wouldn't upgrade to a Core i7 yet as a CPU upgrade can bring almost the same benefit for a lower cost. Q9550 have become very cheap and don't really perform much worse per MHz than a Core i7 would for gaming.
    If you're buying a new rig then you might as well pay a little more for the X58 mainboard and the DDR3, but if you already have a good P45 board then the Q9550 makes a lot more sense.


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    Default Re: Upgrade options/opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by kick View Post
    6.Keep present setup for another year /more? until its definitely"old".
    Yeah, I would definately go with this, at least Intel double the power ot at least add 75%. Wait for Core i10.

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    I agree with Nickel020. The weak link in your system is the GPU. It's not terrible, but you would see a huge leap in performance by swapping it out for a higher spec single GPU card.

    The only way your CPU is the limiting factor is if you're running a very CPU limited game. I know you play WoW, which is CPU limited, and will suck up all the MHz that you can give it. For more GPU intense games, 3.5GHz should be enough to feed a high end single GPU perfectly fine. The only reason I've swapped out my 3.4GHz Q8200 for this 3.9GHz E7400 is because I intend on going Crossfire some time in the near future. an extra 500MHz over 3.4GHz will likely benefit Crossfire, as the more GPU muscle you have, the more it needs feeding.

    I would definitely leave the CPU alone in your system. Who knows what Core i5 will bring with regards to price/performance compared to Core 2. Also, waiting till i5's release may see Q9550/Q9650 prices drop even further.

    Core i7 isn't particularly outpacing Core 2 at the moment as far as gaming goes. It is much quicker clock for clock in things like video encoding, encryption/decryption etc. Some tests have found that with Hyper Threading enabled, gaming performance actually suffers rather than gets better too.

    We've all been waiting for aplications to become seriously multi threaded for ages, and they are getting that way. However there are very few programs that can take full advantage of 8 logical thread processors. I remember reading an article where they re-assessed an old dual core P4, and found that its performance was actually much better in modern apps than they thought it was going to be. They put this down to the fact that at the time of release of the CPU, software couldn't take advantage of all the power available via two CPU's. The fact that software has progressed, kind of "props up"its performance somewhat.
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    +1 for new video card, as suggested by Psycho & Nickel :-)


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    Kick, I have to agree a 4870 is a good buy and heck of a vid card even overclock-able. A Q9550 would be a good choice and I know you have a good board already.

    I'd say for < $500 you would have a very good system with what you have. Stay away from Ebay buying though. Get it from a Newegg, Mwave, Performance-PC or something like that.

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    thx for the advice folks
    I suppose it will depend on how outdated it feels over time.
    The board is good so..
    For interest system cost converted to USD 10 months ago was
    Monitor 22 in medion $250
    Mbrd $156
    cooler $80
    memory $84
    case $40
    psu $80+ a no name 500w one for $15
    cpu+hdd+gx card approx $150 on a deal on a returned to dealer system and my old gx card.
    approx $850
    Funny thing is my old D820 doesnt feel that slow now that I can oclk it on GA73 pvm s2 board.
    If i had to use it full time Im sure it would, tho the fan annoys the hell out of me too sounds like a bee buzzing as it speeds up n down.
    I suppose 6 seems the best,I could allways pick up a nvidia 280 in a years time for $100 maybe :0
    Current Systems:

    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
    http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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