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    Default EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

    Hi everybody im having LOTS of problems with my Pc
    I cant get it stable even jumping the Mch core to 1.3 and the memory to 2.0v I cant play any games for more than an hour somethimes 10 minutes and then crash . no Bsod just stop working
    PLEASE PLEASE i dont kcnow what to do anymore HELP ME !

    this is my pc :
    Windows xp 64 bits brand new install
    Q6600 2.4 Ghz v core 1.312 from Cpu z
    thermaltake max orb 50Ēc full load
    Gigabyte EP43-DS3L BIOS F8
    Nvidia 8800 Gt 1gb
    4 gb ram ddr2 1066 Newegg.com - OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2G10664GK - Desktop Memory
    Psu 550 W

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    Default Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

    Set your memory timings and voltage to manufactured specifications.

    Model OCZ2G10664GK
    Type 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM
    Tech Spec
    Capacity 4GB (2 x 2GB)
    Speed DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
    Cas Latency 5
    Timing 5-6-6-18
    Voltage 2.1V
    Features 2.15V EVP
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    4GB / Kingston / KHX8500D2K2/2GN / 5-5-5-18 / 1066Mhz
    (2) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA RAID-0
    (1) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA AHCI
    (2) IDE's 1 8XdualDVDRW 1 52x32x52x CDRW
    Antec /Neo HE550 / 550W
    Mid size ATX case with show through panel
    2) 80x80 front fans (1) 120x120 rear fan and small nb fan
    Microsoft comfort curve USB keyboard 2000 ver.1.0
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    Default Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

    I'd first check that the orb is not in contact with the NB heatsink or pushing it up, and make sure the NB heatsink is seated properly. It should get warm or even hot while the computer is under load, if ti feels cool than there might be a problem.

    Post your BIOS settings with a screen capture of MemSet main and spd windows, and also HWMonitor (CPUID) window, for a more complete picture.
    Put you system specs in your sugnature, this will become handy when the threads gets longer.

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    Default Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

    You can find that monitoring software here.-----> http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/late...y-tools-30530/
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ench-test.html
    http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/FileList...ios_qflash.pdf
    Phenom II 945 @ 3.2Ghz w/Thermaltake Big Typhoon Pro 14 CPU Cooler
    Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H rev.1.1 F11
    Sapphire 3870HD / 100225L / 512MB / ddr4
    4GB / Kingston / KHX8500D2K2/2GN / 5-5-5-18 / 1066Mhz
    (2) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA RAID-0
    (1) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA AHCI
    (2) IDE's 1 8XdualDVDRW 1 52x32x52x CDRW
    Antec /Neo HE550 / 550W
    Mid size ATX case with show through panel
    2) 80x80 front fans (1) 120x120 rear fan and small nb fan
    Microsoft comfort curve USB keyboard 2000 ver.1.0
    Logitech G500 USB mouse
    Monitor: CMV937A
    7.1+2 Channel High Definition ALC889A
    Dual boot Windows 7 32bit home & Windows 7 64bit home


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    Default Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

    Hi here is the picture the vcore under load goes to 1.312
    Q6600 2.4 Ghz Thermaltake Max Orb
    Gigabyte EP43-ds3l bios F8
    Nvidia 8800 Gt 1gb
    4GB OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227362
    Psu 550
    Xp 64 bits profesional edition SP2

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    Default Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

    The memory does not have EPP profile?
    Please fill the following template with your own settings and post it back.
    It's just a template, ugnore the values in it replace them with your own settings, the defaults on the left and those that are entered.
    Delete lines that are not applicable to your board.
    Code:
    Motherboard: Model:  Rev#:  Bios Version:
    Cpu: Model
    Ram: Brand, Model/Part#, Link to your ram's specs
    Power Supply Unit: Brand, Model#, Wattage
    
    Default settings for new setups that are not overclocked.
    
    note: replace all ?? with the value displayed in your bios.
    ----> Replace "Auto" with manually set values.
    
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto] <--- FAST is OK
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [##]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.0] < ignore if not available
    CPU Frequency ---------------------: ####
    
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [Mhz]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [Auto] <--- Set to 100, never leave this on Auto
    
    C.I.A.2 ------------------------------ : [Disabled]
    
    Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<<
    MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<<
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance ------------------- : [Turbo] <--- set to DISABLED when overclocking
    Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : [Disabled] <--- Leave this Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [Auto]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : [Auto]
    DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Auto] <-- set to MANUAL for overclocking
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tRCD  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tRP --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tRAS  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tWTR  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tWR --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tRFC  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    tRTP  ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) -------------------- : [Auto] <--- Auto or 0 is OK
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength --------- : Press Enter <--- press ENTER to modify memory sub-timings when overclocking
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <-- leave this and below set to AUTO
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]  ps
    
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Voltage Types------------ Normal -------- Current -----
    Load-Line Calibration ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore --------------- 1.?????  ---- : [Auto] <--- set to the 1.????? value
    
    CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ----- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left (Auto over-volts this too much when overclocking) Auto is OK if not overclocking
    CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V* ----- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left (Auto over-volts this too much when overclocking) Auto is OK if not overclocking
    
    CPU Reference ----------- 0.755V* ----- : [Auto] <--- Auto Will set this correctly
    CPU Reference2 ---------- 0.800V* ----- : [Auto] <--- Auto Will set this correctly
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to 1.20 for 2x2GB ram (1.24 - 1.26, or 1.05 might be needed)
    MCH Reference ----------- 0.800V ------- : [Auto]
    MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.900V  ------ : [Auto]
    ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left
    ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the value to the left
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [Auto] <--- set to the max rated ram voltage (for most memory)
    DRAM Termination -------- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    Channel A Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    Channel B Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function  --------------------- : [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled] <--- Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect  ------------- : [Enabled] <--- set to Disabled when overclocking (this must be enabled to flash or boot from a USB drive)

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    Default Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

    I believe you need to download and post your results for (CPUID HWmonitor 1.14) you can find it here ----> CPUID
    Last edited by artdrivers; 08-09-2009 at 08:49 PM.
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ench-test.html
    http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/FileList...ios_qflash.pdf
    Phenom II 945 @ 3.2Ghz w/Thermaltake Big Typhoon Pro 14 CPU Cooler
    Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H rev.1.1 F11
    Sapphire 3870HD / 100225L / 512MB / ddr4
    4GB / Kingston / KHX8500D2K2/2GN / 5-5-5-18 / 1066Mhz
    (2) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA RAID-0
    (1) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA AHCI
    (2) IDE's 1 8XdualDVDRW 1 52x32x52x CDRW
    Antec /Neo HE550 / 550W
    Mid size ATX case with show through panel
    2) 80x80 front fans (1) 120x120 rear fan and small nb fan
    Microsoft comfort curve USB keyboard 2000 ver.1.0
    Logitech G500 USB mouse
    Monitor: CMV937A
    7.1+2 Channel High Definition ALC889A
    Dual boot Windows 7 32bit home & Windows 7 64bit home


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    Default Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

    Motherboard: EP 43 DS3L Bios <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:metricconverter w:st="on" ProductID="8 f">8 f</st1:metricconverter> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
    Cpu: Intel Q 6600 <o:p></o:p>
    Ram: Ocz ddr2 1066 Gold edition http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_8500_gold_edition_4gb_dual_channel<o: p></o:p>
    Power Supply Unit: Hec 550 W <o:p></o:p>
    <o:p></o:p>
    <o:p></o:p>
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)<o:p></o:p>
    Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto] <o:p></o:p>
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : 9x<o:p></o:p>
    CPU Frequency ---------------------: 2.4<o:p></o:p>
    <o:p></o:p>
    Clock Chip Control<o:p></o:p>
    Standard Clock Control<o:p></o:p>
    CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]<o:p></o:p>
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: [266]<o:p></o:p>
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : 100<o:p></o:p>
    <o:p></o:p>
    Advanced Clock Control ------- [Press Enter]<o:p></o:p>
    CPU Clock Drive ---------------------- : <<< 800<o:p></o:p>
    PCI Express Clock Drive -------------- : <<< 800<o:p></o:p>
    CPU Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<<<o:p></o:p>
    MCH Clock Skew (ps) ------------------ : <<<<o:p></o:p>
    <o:p></o:p>
    DRAM Performance Control<o:p></o:p>
    Performance Enhance ------------------- : Standard<o:p></o:p>
    Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) --- : [Disabled] <o:p></o:p>
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch ---------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
    System Memory Multiplier -------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ---------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
    DRAM Timing Selectable ---------------- : [Auto] <o:p></o:p>
    Standard Timing Control<o:p></o:p>
    CAS Latency Time -------- ?? ---------- : 5<o:p></o:p>
    tRCD ------------------- ?? ---------- : 6
    tRP --------------------- ?? ---------- : 6
    tRAS ------------------- ?? ---------- : 18
    <o:p></o:p>
    Advanced Timing Control<o:p></o:p>
    tRRD ------------------- ?? ---------- : Auto] 3<o:p></o:p>
    tWTR ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto] 3<o:p></o:p>
    tWR --------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto] 6<o:p></o:p>
    tRFC ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto] 195<o:p></o:p>
    tRTP ------------------- ?? ---------- : [Auto] 3 <o:p></o:p>
    Command Rate (CMD) -------------------- : [Auto] <o:p></o:p>
    <o:p></o:p>
    Channel A<o:p></o:p>
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto] 7<o:p></o:p>
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <o:p></o:p>
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps<o:p></o:p>
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps<o:p></o:p>
    <o:p></o:p>
    Channel B<o:p></o:p>
    Static tRead Value --------------------- : [Auto] 7<o:p></o:p>
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto] <o:p></o:p>
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment ------------------ : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) ----------------- : [Auto]<o:p></o:p>
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps<o:p></o:p>
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto] ps<o:p></o:p>
    <o:p></o:p>
    Motherboard Voltage Control<o:p></o:p>
    CPU Vcore --------------- 1.325<o:p></o:p>
    <o:p></o:p>
    CPU Termination --------- 1.2<o:p></o:p>
    CPU PLL ----------------- 1.550<o:p></o:p>
    CPU Reference ----------- 0.805<o:p></o:p>
    <o:p></o:p>
    MCH/ICH <o:p></o:p>
    ICH I/O ----------------- 1.550V
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V
    <o:p></o:p>
    Advanced Settings<o:p></o:p>
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]<o:p></o:p>
    No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]<o:p></o:p>
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]<o:p></o:p>
    C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]<o:p></o:p>
    x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]<o:p></o:p>
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]<o:p></o:p>
    CPU EIST Function --------------------- : [Disabled]<o:p></o:p>
    Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled] <o:p></o:p>
    Integrated Peripherals<o:p></o:p>
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ------------- : [Enabled] __________________

    Q6600 2.4 Ghz Thermaltake Max Orb
    Gigabyte EP43-ds3l bios F8
    Nvidia 8800 Gt 1gb
    4GB OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227362
    Psu 550
    Xp 64 bits profesional edition SP2

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    Default Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

    The MCH Core is missing in your settings, and why the 195 tRFC does it do any better than the default?
    For defaut memory speed (DDR-800) I'd leave all timing on autom with DRAM voltage 1.8-1.9v, for DDR-8500 change only the standard, leave advanced on auto.
    This settings is stable or you still having crashes?

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    Default Re: EP43-DS3L Random Crashing

    The Mch core is on 1.1 have tried 1.3 but crash with this settings more offten
    with the 195 tRFC setting is more stable but still crashing on games

    What else can i do???
    Q6600 2.4 Ghz Thermaltake Max Orb
    Gigabyte EP43-ds3l bios F8
    Nvidia 8800 Gt 1gb
    4GB OCZ 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227362
    Psu 550
    Xp 64 bits profesional edition SP2

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