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    Default Re: Overclocking the Gigabyte X58 UD4P

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    As for getting them lower, you may be able to use less Vcore but you would need to lower and test
    Are there any rules for how low is too low...until it crashes I guess? I can't get high temps from having too low voltages can I?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    I would assume from looking at your settings and specs that this setup is not stable at all, you need more IOH and QPI/Vtt for that speed and timings, and 12GB.
    It appears fairly stable and has never BSOD or locked up, although I haven't ran an hour or more of Prime95 yet. I will run some stress tests over the weekend.

    How much more IOH and QPI/Vtt do you think is required and will that raise temps?

    I am tempted to reseat my cooler, but not sure if that will make any difference.

    I am a little miffed as to why I built an identical system for a mate and his is a good 5-10c cooler :( Even at stock mine never idled under 40c and his is around 33c. Only difference is he's using the supplied Coolermaster Fusion 400 paste and i'm using AS5? Its been runnin, off, getting hot for 5 days now so it should be reasonable cure by now I'd think?

    Thanks!
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    @Thumpabar From my research exact systems are really not identically the same. There are so many variables to account for. Even if the cpu is the same they can react differently from system to system. Bios settings, applications running etc. can all affect how a system runs overall.

    First thing I'd suggest you do is consider your system as a completely unique system. This way your tweaks will be for your system and not somebody elses. The bios settings from others should be viewed as reference points more then exact settings for your "unique" system.

    When people say they have a "stable" system it is generally taken as under maximum stress the system does not fail. It does not mean your system hasn't ever failed under whatever conditions you subject it to.

    If I were you I'd look at bios settings of others on this forum for the speed you want. With a DO stepping chip you should be able to use less voltage than someone with a CO stepping chip such as myself which will help with your temperatures.

    Also I've learned idle temps are sorta unreliable but like you I like to get them as low as I can. Load temps are the main concern. Make sure you monitor your temps when you test so you can stop it if things get to hot.

    As for QPI/VTT I would think you would need more than myself. Your settings are lower than mine and I only have 6gb of ram and looser timings (If my understanding is correct). This will also contribute to more heat. Less voltage=Less heat from my understanding and from my tests.

    You can start settings low then work your way up. Or you can start from high (Make sure you are within the Safe parameters of your hardware so you don't burn something out). Then test, if temps get to high or if you are stable but want lower temps work your way back.
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    Smile Re: Overclocking the Gigabyte X58 UD4P

    Thanks Gokuboo & LSDMEASAP!

    Yeah I get it that all things are not created as equal as they could/should, I can work with that I guess, just a bit dissapointed that mine will probably run 10c hotter under the same clock and conditions as my friends :(

    So i should be OK with vCore of 1.2v (or less) but QPI/VTT should be a little more than the 1.165v I currently have as most likely when I do a ram stress test it'll fail? I'll test it first before changing it to check.

    Other than Prime95 to test CPU under full load, what is best to test the RAM? I got memtest86+ from the software section. Any other things I should be running to stress for stability?

    Thanks,
    Jeff.

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    Just an update.

    I reseated my cooler and replaced the compound from AS5 to Coolermaster TF400. There was no issues with the spread on the old one either, I think it was a very good seat. Flat as and right to each edges!

    I broke the head off one of the screws for the 1366 arms for the V8 though whilst giving it a tweak to check tightness :( I super glued the head on and it seems reasonable. This is the arm that screws to the cooler, which attaches to the base plate on the underside of the motherboard.

    On exactly the same settings for 3.2Ghz as posted previous my idle was on around 2-3c more but my load temps were 2-3c less. Interesting! Perhaps AS5 works better up to 60c and TF400 works a little better over?

    I ran Prime95 for just over an hour whilst streaming a tv show to a network device and it never missed a beat. max temps were 75,74,73,70.

    I did all the Everest benchmarks tests also and they also worked fine.

    Not sure where I should go to now?

    I guess I should start knocking up BCLK slowly until i need more volts and see how a little more volts effect on the temps?

    Cheers,

    Jeff.

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    Default Re: Overclocking the Gigabyte X58 UD4P

    Ya, no two systems will be alike in regards to temps, scores, or overclockability... Even if they used the same exact model everything, even the same batch code CPU's could vary widely in regards to temps or voltages needed.

    May I suggest TX-2!!! I find it to work 5-10C cooler than Arctic Silver 5, has no break in time, and cleans VERY Easily from the CPU/Heatsink

    I would be looking at buying a new screw for that!! Even though it may look/feel ok now it could break anytime and overheat your CPU. I am sure if you called or emailed them they would be able to send you out a screw free of charge (At least one would think so if they have good customer service) >>
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    Vcore would be up to you to test and find what is needed for your CPU. I suggest you run Memtest86+ overnight and Prime95 Blend test for at least 12 hours. Then you will see if you need adjustments or not

    Temps seem a bit high to me with Prime95 (I can imagine your IBT/LinX temps would be 85-95c) for your bclk and Vcore, you may not have much more wiggle room with that cooler as far as clocking higher safely. So you may need to look at other coolers really if you plan to clock higher

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    Looks like it's time to get back to work. My 3.8oc was stable under Vista x64 but now it's not under Windows 7 x64. My specs are below, any ideas please?

    Advanced CPU Features:
    CPU Clock Ratio ...............................[19x]
    Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .................. [Enabled]
    CPU Cores Enabled ............................[All]
    CPU Multi Threading .........................[Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ................... [Enabled]
    C3/C6/C7 State Support .................... [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor ........................ [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ...........................[Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology ...................[Enabled]
    Bi-Directional PROCHOT ..................... [Enabled]


    Uncore & QPI Features:
    QPI Link Speed ............................[x36]
    Uncore Frequency ...........................[16]
    Isonchronous Frequency ..................[Enabled]


    Standard Clock Control:
    Base Clock (BCLK) Control ...............[Enabled]
    BCLK Frequency (MHz) .....................[200]
    PCI Express Frequency (MHz) ........... [100]

    C.I.A.2 [Disabled]

    Advanced Clock Control:
    CPU Clock Drive ............................[800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive ................... [900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
    IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]


    Advanced DRAM Features:
    Performance Enhance .....................[Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P) ......... [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [8.0]
    DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Expert]

    Channel A + B + C

    Channel A Timing Settings:
    ##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
    CAS Latency Time ..................... [8]
    tRCD ..................................[8]
    tRP ...................................[8]
    tRAS ................................. [24]


    ##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
    tRC ........................................[AUTO]
    tRRD .......................................[AUTO]
    tWTR ...................................... [AUTO]
    tWR ........................................[AUTO]
    tWTP .......................................[AUTO]
    tWL ........................................[AUTO]
    tRFC .......................................[AUTO]
    tRTP .......................................[AUTO]
    tFAW ...................................... [AUTO]
    B2B CAS DELAY...............................[AUTO]
    Command Rate (CMD) ..........................[1]

    ##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
    Round Trip Latency ...................[AUTO]



    Advanced Voltage Control:

    CPU
    Load Line Calibration ................. [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore ...............................[1.33125]
    QPI/VTT Voltage 1.150v ..................[1.3]
    CPU PLL 1.800v ..........................[1.8]

    MCH/ICH
    PCIE 1.500v ..........................[1.5]
    QPI PLL 1.100v .......................[1.2]
    IOH Core 1.100v .....................[1.16]
    ICH I/O 1.500v .......................[1.5]
    ICH Core 1.1v ........................[1.14]

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage 1.500v .......[1.66]
    DRAM Termination 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Data VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Ch-C Address VRef. 0.750v [AUTO]
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD4P. Bios ver. F13
    CPU: Intel i7 920 C0 3.8Ghz
    RAM: 3x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600 TR3X6G1600C8D 8-8-8-24-1T
    Sound card: PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series
    Graphics card: EVGA GTX 480 SC in SLI
    PSU: CORSAIR HX1000w
    HDD: 2x SSD Intel x25-M 80GB G2 Raid 0/ 2x Seagate 1.5 TB Raid 1
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    Operating System: Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
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    Anyone else having this issue or have fixed it?
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD4P. Bios ver. F13
    CPU: Intel i7 920 C0 3.8Ghz
    RAM: 3x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600 TR3X6G1600C8D 8-8-8-24-1T
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    Graphics card: EVGA GTX 480 SC in SLI
    PSU: CORSAIR HX1000w
    HDD: 2x SSD Intel x25-M 80GB G2 Raid 0/ 2x Seagate 1.5 TB Raid 1
    Case: Cooler Master Cosmos 1000
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    Default Re: Overclocking the Gigabyte X58 UD4P

    Quote Originally Posted by Gokuboo View Post
    Anyone else having this issue or have fixed it?

    I'm at 3.8 now on Windows 7 RC version and no issues. Why is cpu-z reading your volts at 1.184 at load? Or was I looking at the wrong pics and thread? I have only used Windows 7 since I built my new rig. My specs are: Giga x58 UD4P, i920 CO/C1 @ 181x21 @ 1.2375V (1.216V in cpu-z), mem @ 9-9-9-24 1T, 3x2GB kit Gskill, Turbo on, HT-on, EVGA GTX 295, TRUE rev.B with Ultra Kaze 38mm in push/pull. I have the same case as you, Gokuboo. I get 47-46-46-44 temps at idle with 82 F room temps.

    At load they reach 75-74-74-71 with the case panel on.


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    Last edited by Darkboss; 10-27-2009 at 08:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkboss View Post
    I'm at 3.8 now on Windows 7 RC version and no issues. Why is cpu-z reading your volts at 1.184 at load? Or was I looking at the wrong pics and thread? I have only used Windows 7 since I built my new rig. My specs are: Giga x58 UD4P, i920 CO/C1 @ 181x21 @ 1.2375V (1.216V in cpu-z), mem @ 9-9-9-24 1T, 3x2GB kit Gskill, Turbo on, HT-on, EVGA GTX 295, TRUE rev.B with Ultra Kaze 38mm in push/pull. I have the same case as you, Gokuboo. I get 47-46-46-44 temps at idle with 82 F room temps.

    At load they reach 75-74-74-71 with the case panel on.


    http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6351/82fidle.jpg
    Think you were looking at the wrong pic. I've only shown my voltage in bios settings and is currently set at 1.33125v. Going to try and see if I can do some adjustments to get my stable 3.8oc back. I think all the geniuses are on vacation so gonna have to hold my own for awhile.
    Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD4P. Bios ver. F13
    CPU: Intel i7 920 C0 3.8Ghz
    RAM: 3x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600 TR3X6G1600C8D 8-8-8-24-1T
    Sound card: PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series
    Graphics card: EVGA GTX 480 SC in SLI
    PSU: CORSAIR HX1000w
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    cant you run with cpu volts on normal?and c1e enabled? i can run on these settings 100% stable but with d0 chip..try it you might be able too
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