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    Default help a noob configure his gigabyte ga-ma780g-ud3h + AMD Phenom2 X3 720 BE

    I stumbled across this board while googling for my new gigabyte ga-ma780g-ud3h board but couldn't find any optimal settings for my configuration anywhere. This is my first AMD build and was hoping someone could give me some suggestions.

    Current build: ga-ma780g-ud3h Rev 1.0 with F4 bios
    AMD Phenom 2 X3 720 BE stock cooling
    Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X4096-6400C5C 4GB DDR2 2X2GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL 5-5-5-18
    Creative Sound blaster PCI sound card (board sound disabled in bios)

    So far I've managed to get the memory to 800 mhz dual channel and ganged (slots 1 and 2) and that's about it.

    I've been fiddling around with the bios settings and cpu-z and have noticed that the multiplier seems to change dynamically depending on load. Is this right? My previous intel computer didn't do this. If I overclock by setting the multiplier to, let's say 14, would the cpu run at 14x all the time or would it still do the dynamic switching?

    I also saw mentioned in another thread that the SATA settings for my hard drives should not be in Native IDE mode, but in ACHI. Is this true? It seems to be running okay in native IDE mode, but i haven't done any benchmarking yet. I'm running 3xSATA, 1xIDE, no raid.

    Any other helpful bios tweaks out there? What about on-board graphics memory, should I increase it's footprint?

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: help a noob configure his gigabyte ga-ma780g-ud3h + AMD Phenom2 X3 720 BE

    Sure where do you want to start?
    Here is a simple tutorial from Lsdmeasap---->http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/bios...h-guide-27576/
    Bios F4 Always use Q-FLASH
    GIGABYTE - Support&Download - Motherboard - BIOS Download

    Motherboard manual
    http://download.gigabyte.ru/manual/m...80g_ud3h_e.pdf

    If I overclock by setting the multiplier to, let's say 14, would the cpu run at 14x all the time or would it still do the dynamic switching?
    This is the advantage of the BlackBox edition.
    It will do the dynamic switching at 14x, 14.5x, 15x, 15.5x You will be able to turn this feature on or off at will.
    Which OS are you using?

    It seems to be running okay in native IDE mode
    I was in Native IDEmode. Then switched to RAID-0 for double the transfer rate. Still use Native IDE mode on SATA4/5
    What drives do you have?
    What about on-board graphics memory, should I increase it's footprint?
    I switched to a PCIE card for a huge increase in Graphics.
    Last edited by artdrivers; 08-19-2009 at 05:48 AM.
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    Default Re: help a noob configure his gigabyte ga-ma780g-ud3h + AMD Phenom2 X3 720 BE

    Quote Originally Posted by artdrivers View Post
    This is the advantage of the BlackBox edition.
    It will do the dynamic switching at 14x, 14.5x, 15x, 15.5x You will be able to turn this feature on or off at will.
    Which OS are you using?
    So I noticed that the dynamic switching alters the multiplier. I don't know the range my 720 goes but let's say it goes from 6 to 10. If i force multiplier 14 in the bios, then depending on load, the motherboard will switch the multipliers between 6-14? 6 at idle and 14 under load? way cool.

    Playing around with Windows 7 at the moment

    Quote Originally Posted by artdrivers View Post
    I was in Native IDEmode. Then switched to RAID-0 for double the transfer rate. Still use Native IDE mode on SATA4/5
    What drives do you have?
    I have 1xSeagate 250gb SATA that I will be using as the OS drive
    1xSeagate 120gb SATA as a storage drive
    1xseagate 200gb IDE as a storage drive
    1xWestern Digital 640gb as a storage drive

    I've set it so that SATA1-3 will be ACHI, 4-5 will still use IDE mode. Since I don't plan on running raid, i should keep it at ACHI or can i still set it to raid mode but not build an array? Wikipedia seems to say that in most motherboards you might be able to do this.

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: help a noob configure his gigabyte ga-ma780g-ud3h + AMD Phenom2 X3 720 BE

    Yes Black Box edition is way cool.
    Your cpu multiplier will be at 14X default for a 720 You will have the capability to set it to 12X 12.5X 13X 13.5X 14X is default Then OC 15X OC15.5X or OC16X Then ??? If you want to use dynamic switching be sure that AMD Cool & Quiet is enabled in BIOS. Windows 7 uses it's own Power Schemes -->
    Engineering Windows 7 : Windows 7 Energy Efficiency
    Yes set it to SATA native ide if you don't plan on using ESATA drives set SATAII_4/5 to native IDE if you do use External SATA you will need to set SATAII_4/5 to AHCI.
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    4GB / Kingston / KHX8500D2K2/2GN / 5-5-5-18 / 1066Mhz
    (2) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA RAID-0
    (1) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA AHCI
    (2) IDE's 1 8XdualDVDRW 1 52x32x52x CDRW
    Antec /Neo HE550 / 550W
    Mid size ATX case with show through panel
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    Default Re: help a noob configure his gigabyte ga-ma780g-ud3h + AMD Phenom2 X3 720 BE

    Thanks for the quick reply!

    I was hoping to use ACHI since it takes advantage of SATA protocols like native command queuing which native IDE doesn't use. Wouldn't ACHI be faster for SATA drives?

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    Default Re: help a noob configure his gigabyte ga-ma780g-ud3h + AMD Phenom2 X3 720 BE

    No
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyte...ench-test.html
    http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/FileList...ios_qflash.pdf
    Phenom II 945 @ 3.2Ghz w/Thermaltake Big Typhoon Pro 14 CPU Cooler
    Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H rev.1.1 F11
    Sapphire 3870HD / 100225L / 512MB / ddr4
    4GB / Kingston / KHX8500D2K2/2GN / 5-5-5-18 / 1066Mhz
    (2) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA RAID-0
    (1) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA AHCI
    (2) IDE's 1 8XdualDVDRW 1 52x32x52x CDRW
    Antec /Neo HE550 / 550W
    Mid size ATX case with show through panel
    2) 80x80 front fans (1) 120x120 rear fan and small nb fan
    Microsoft comfort curve USB keyboard 2000 ver.1.0
    Logitech G500 USB mouse
    Monitor: CMV937A
    7.1+2 Channel High Definition ALC889A
    Dual boot Windows 7 32bit home & Windows 7 64bit home


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    Default Re: help a noob configure his gigabyte ga-ma780g-ud3h + AMD Phenom2 X3 720 BE

    If speed is what you want then RAID
    Here try this program and compare

    By artdrivers at 2009-08-16
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    Phenom II 945 @ 3.2Ghz w/Thermaltake Big Typhoon Pro 14 CPU Cooler
    Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-S2H rev.1.1 F11
    Sapphire 3870HD / 100225L / 512MB / ddr4
    4GB / Kingston / KHX8500D2K2/2GN / 5-5-5-18 / 1066Mhz
    (2) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA RAID-0
    (1) WD Caviar / WD2500AAKS/ 250GB in SATA AHCI
    (2) IDE's 1 8XdualDVDRW 1 52x32x52x CDRW
    Antec /Neo HE550 / 550W
    Mid size ATX case with show through panel
    2) 80x80 front fans (1) 120x120 rear fan and small nb fan
    Microsoft comfort curve USB keyboard 2000 ver.1.0
    Logitech G500 USB mouse
    Monitor: CMV937A
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    Default Re: help a noob configure his gigabyte ga-ma780g-ud3h + AMD Phenom2 X3 720 BE

    Thanks! I managed to install AHCI and will compare this mode vs native IDE using that program.

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    Default Re: help a noob configure his gigabyte ga-ma780g-ud3h + AMD Phenom2 X3 720 BE

    Thanks for helping ArtDrivers!

    I often get lost when trying to help with AMD systems due to never having used one for overclocking or any long term use

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    Default Re: help a noob configure his gigabyte ga-ma780g-ud3h + AMD Phenom2 X3 720 BE

    So I just found out that the AMD sb700 is rather broken when it comes to AHCI/raid support. This explains why I'm having difficulties with enabling this feature on the board when installing windows 7 x86 or x64. However, once a person does manage to install with AHCI or raid, then CPU utilization skyrockets with disk access unless C&Q and C1E support is disabled.

    That kinda sucks

    I suppose I will try one last time to install with AHCI in W7 x64 before just giving up and settling with native IDE mode.

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