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    Unhappy EP45-UD3P & GTX285 Problems?

    I've just recently put together a new system and have a stable OC using the following settings:
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    Motherboard: EP45-UD3P Rev: 1.1
    BIOS Version: F10e
    CPU: Intel Q9650
    RAM: G.Skill F2-8800CL5Q-8GBPI (4x2GB)
         http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=165
    PSU: Silverstone, ST75ZF, 750W
    GPU: EVGA 285GTX SSC Stock
    
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ---------------- : [Turbo]
    CPU Clock Ratio ------------------------ : [ 9x]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ------------------- : +0.0
    CPU Frequency ---------------------------: 4.05GHz( 450x9)
    
    ********** Clock Chip Control **********
    >>>>> Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control ----------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------- : [ 450]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ------------ : [100]
    C.I.A.2 -------------------------------- : [Disabled]
    
    >>>>> Advanced Clock Control
    Advanced Clock Control ----------------- : [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive ------------------------ : [ 800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive ---------------- : [ 900mV]
    CPU Clock Skew (ps) -------------------- : [   0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew (ps) -------------------- : [   0ps]
    
    ******** DRAM Performance Control ********
    Performance Enhance -------------------- : [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) ---- : [Disabled]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch ----------------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD) --------- : [2.40B]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ------ 1066 ----- :  1080
    DRAM Timing Selectable ----------------- : [Manual]
    
    >>>>> Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------------  5 ------ : [5]
    tRCD  ------------------------  7 ------ : [   5]
    tRP --------------------------  7 ------ : [   5]
    tRAS  ------------------------ 20 ------ : [  15]
    
    >>>>> Advanced Timing Control
    Advanced Timing Control ---------------- : [Press Enter]
    tRRD  ------------------------  4 ------ : [   3]
    tWTR  ------------------------  4 ------ : [   3]
    tWR --------------------------  8 ------ : [   6]
    tRFC  ------------------------ 68 ------ : [  54]
    tRTP  ------------------------  4 ------ : [   3]
    Command Rate (CMD) -----------  0 ------ : [   2]
    
    >>>>> Channel A and Channel B
    Channel A & B Timing Settings ---------- : [Press Enter]
    Static tRead Value -----------  8 ------ : [   8]
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment --------  0 ------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment --------  0 ------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment --------  0 ------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment --------  0 ------ : [Auto]
    
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) -------  8 ------ : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) -------  8 ------ : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) -------  7 ------ : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) -------  9 ------ : [Auto]
    
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]
    DDR Write Training --------------------- : [Auto]
    
    Channel A & B Driving Settings --------- : [Press Enter]
    Driving Strength Profile --------------- : [1066MHz]
    
    Data Driving Pull-Up Level ------------- : [Auto]
    Cmd  Driving Pull-Up Level ------------- : [Auto]
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level ------------- : [Auto]
    Clk  Driving Pull-Up Level ------------- : [Auto]
    
    Data Driving Pull-Down Level ----------- : [Auto]
    Cmd  Driving Pull-Down Level ----------- : [Auto]
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level ----------- : [Auto]
    Clk  Driving Pull-Down Level ----------- : [Auto]
    
    ****** Motherboard Voltage Control ******
    >>> CPU
    Load-Line Calibration ------------------ : [Enabled]
    CPU Vcore -------------- 1.28750V  ----- : [1.38125V]
    CPU Termination ---------- 1.200V ------ : [1.300V]
    CPU PLL ------------------ 1.500V ------ : [1.650V]
    CPU Reference ------------ 0.760V ------ : [0.823V]
    
    >>> MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.240V]
    MCH Reference ----------- 0.760V ------- : [0.863V]
    MCH/DRAM Reference ------ 0.900V  ------ : [0.960V]
    ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [1.500V]
    ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.100V]
    
    >>> DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [1.920V]
    DRAM Termination -------- 0.900V ------- : [0.960V]
    Channel A Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [0.960V]
    Channel B Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [0.960V]
    
    Advanced BIOS Features
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Enabled]
    C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Enabled]
    C4/C4E State Support ------------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function  --------------------- : [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Enabled]
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    USB Storage Function ------------------- : [Enabled]
    After satisfying myself with 24 Hr Prime small & large FFT stability tests as well as IBT I started doing video stress tests with Furmark. Running Furmark for a few minutes or gaming for 15 - 20 minutes causes my BIOS settings to revert to defaults after a reboot. I've made the same video stress tests with the BIOS set to optimized defaults only to get similar results.

    I've tried clearing CMOS, re-flashing F10e, and going back to F9 and the results are the same. Does anyone have any advice for me to try next?
    Best regards,
    FlyingHorse

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P & GTX285 Problems?

    Sounds like your graphic card is the issue, not the BIOS Settings?

    But you could try adding some south bridge voltages and see if that corrects things. Try these changes, and possibly a bit more Dram voltage if your ram is spec'd higher >>
    ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [1.500V] << Set 1.58
    ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.100V] << Set 1.16-1.24

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P & GTX285 Problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    Sounds like your graphic card is the issue, not the BIOS Settings?
    I certainly won't say that it isn't the root of the problem but I haven't run into any issues with the card in my EVGA 680i motherboard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    But you could try adding some south bridge voltages and see if that corrects things. Try these changes, and possibly a bit more Dram voltage if your ram is spec'd higher >>
    ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [1.500V] << Set 1.58
    ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.100V] << Set 1.16-1.24
    I'll give these a try. Thanks for the suggestion.
    Best regards,
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    GA-EP45-UD3P Q9650 450x9@2.40B BIOS: F10
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P & GTX285 Problems?

    Yes, please do try those setting to see if they have any effect.

    tRD of 8 at 450FSB can also be an issue, you may want to try this at 9 if the above voltages do not help. More MCH Core for testing could also alleviate that as an issue

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P & GTX285 Problems?

    Well I tried different voltages and higher tRD and nothing changed.
    I did however discover that if I wait somewhere between 15 and 30 minutes after running the video stress tests then I have no problems at all with the BIOS during re-boot...

    So for me the question is what does the BIOS sense during the boot cycle that causes it to reject the current settings? Is it a temperature measurement or some other data that was collected while the OS was running?

    Is there any software that can report MCH and/or ICH temperatures?
    Best regards,
    FlyingHorse

    GA-EP45-UD3P Q9650 450x9@2.40B BIOS: F10
    G.Skill F2-8800CL5Q-8GBPI (2GBx4) DDR2-1100
    EVGA 285GTX SSC Graphics + HP ZR24w + LG 32LH40
    HighPoint 2640x4 4-Port SAS RAID Controller
    Creative X-Fi ExtremeGamer Audio (PCI)
    Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 2250 Dual Digital Tuners
    2 WD 150GB Raptors RAID 0
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P & GTX285 Problems?

    Overclocking your ram with tighter timings than it's specs is simply asking for trouble with no real benefit.

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P & GTX285 Problems?

    It very well could be temp related. You would need to hook up a sensor to your NB, I would suspect this and not the SB.

    Or just add a fan directly over the NB for testing purposes and see if things improve, if so then you know this was at least part of the issue

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P & GTX285 Problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chike View Post
    Overclocking your ram with tighter timings than it's specs is simply asking for trouble with no real benefit.
    Sorry about that but I used the wrong template above. All the memory timings are at their defaults. The ones from above were some settings that lsd suggested for me to try out.
    Best regards,
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P & GTX285 Problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    It very well could be temp related. You would need to hook up a sensor to your NB, I would suspect this and not the SB.

    Or just add a fan directly over the NB for testing purposes and see if things improve, if so then you know this was at least part of the issue
    I agree with you completely. As a matter of fact UPS is delivering this today. After I get it installed I should get a better idea of the temperature zones inside the case.

    Also a question I meant to ask before I assembled this rig has to do with the TIM under the NB and SB heatsinks. On the EVGA 680i we found that the TIM was just caked on like a huge glob of bubblegum! Not only that but the heatpipe was twisted such that both heatsinks would not lay down flat. Fixing these problems gave most of us about a 10 temperature drop on both the NB and SB. Has anyone seen this type of thing with this (or any other for that matter) motherboard?
    Best regards,
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    HighPoint 2640x4 4-Port SAS RAID Controller
    Creative X-Fi ExtremeGamer Audio (PCI)
    Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 2250 Dual Digital Tuners
    2 WD 150GB Raptors RAID 0
    1 2TB Caviar Black

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    2 WD 500GB, 2 640GB, and 2 1TB Caviars in Icy Dock Mobile Racks
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3P & GTX285 Problems?

    Let me know how you like that controller, I am on the lookout for a new one.

    Yes, redo your paste it you are comfortable with that. It is caked on like you suspect. NB is the main issue, you can leave the pad for the SB as it will be fine. Same for mosfets. Just redo the NB. I always do and I agree I find a good temp drop as well

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