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    Default Re: EX58-UD4P and SATA drive connections

    That is just how things are meant to be, same applies with why memory should go into slots like they do per certain configurations. Just how things are designed is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    That is just how things are meant to be, same applies with why memory should go into slots like they do per certain configurations. Just how things are designed is all.
    Yes and no. If memory is in the wrong slot, the system won't boot, or may be unstable. Not so if the system drive isn't on Sata2_0 (while I haven't checked since reading your original post, I doubt that mine is there and, in any event, I have 2 boot drives, one with Win7-64, and one with XP-32 ... so at least ONE of them isn't on Sata2_0).

    So, what do you think the consequences are of not having the boot drive on Sata2_0?
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    If there's nothing else on the controler then it'll be fine. If there are other drives and the motherboard hasn't detected which disk is bootable you might get the "insert system disk|" error.

    As long as you alter the boot order in the BIOS to the drive you want to boot from, there won't be a problem 99.9% of the time. To be honest, it's just as easy to place the boot drive on SATA2_0 as anywhere else. The only thing that could prevent you doing this is if an expansion card blocks a port. The UD4P I believe has ports mounted on the side of the board, so this is a non issue.

    I agre with Lsdmeasap about RAID configuration. Use SATA2_0 and upwards in order depending on the type of RAID, so for RAID 0 use SATA2_0 and SATA2_1. It's not worth tempting fate even if using other ports may not make a difference.

    Even though you have two boot drives, there will still only be one of them with the NT Boot loader on it. This is where info is stored about which drives and partitions are bootable and also contains the boot menu to choose between Windows 7 and XP. Ideally this drive should be on SATA2_0, but if it's not and your system is working, no need to worry about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho101 View Post
    Even though you have two boot drives, there will still only be one of them with the NT Boot loader on it. This is where info is stored about which drives and partitions are bootable and also contains the boot menu to choose between Windows 7 and XP. Ideally this drive should be on SATA2_0, but if it's not and your system is working, no need to worry about it.
    Not true for my system. I don't have it set up for dual boot (the system will boot with either drive as the only drive, and neither OS knows that the other OS is on another drive). I choose the boot order by going into the BIOS and making the selection there. I've never had a problem with it not booting to the correct drive.

    The next time I open the case, I can connect my primary drive to SATA2_0, but this is definitely not the same as putting RAM in the wrong slots (resulting in either a system that won't boot, or one that is unstable at best).
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    If you indeed have completely seperate installs with no boot menu then you don't have a primary drive. You have two primary drives. Primary doesn't refer to the one you use the most, but to the one with the boot sector on it. If both drives have their own then they are both primarys.

    Lsdmeasap gave the example of not using SATA2_0 being like not using the correct RAM slots merely as an example. I'm sure what he meant (and he can correct me if I'm wrong) is that both situations can potentially cause problems with some configs.

    All hardware is different and sometimes with a certain combination of board, disk and driver there could very well be instances where not having the primary drive on SATA2_0 could cause any number of issues. Anything's possible.

    As for RAM in the wrong slots giving BSOD's etc, is this a X58 thing? My board is perfectly happy to accept modules in any slot order. The only draw back is that dual channel is disabled if not using 1&3 and/or 2&4. Other than that everything works just fine. Again, I'm sure some combinations of board and RAM may be different.
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    don't worry so much, if your OS is installed and it boots just OC that sucker and enjoy the great board.
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    Default Re: EX58-UD4P and SATA drive connections

    Yes, I only meant that as a "General" Example of how things are designed to work, it does not mean going outside of the general will always fail or always cause issues, only that generally that is how things are supposed to be

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    Default Re: EX58-UD4P and SATA drive connections

    Having a Raid 0 system disk on ports 0 and 2 with another HDD on port 1 certainly causes issues.

    And I'll hijack and complain about the poor placement of the SATA ports that means I have to remove my gfx card whenever i want to plug or unplug anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fry It View Post
    Having a Raid 0 system disk on ports 0 and 2 with another HDD on port 1 certainly causes issues.

    And I'll hijack and complain about the poor placement of the SATA ports that means I have to remove my gfx card whenever i want to plug or unplug anything.

    better than being blocked and unusable like some manufacturers boards with the slots facing up. And its not necessary to remove the gfx card if one's case is large enough and they have nimble fingers but either way not worth crying about. Probably 90%+ mbs these days have sata ports in similar locations, only makes since because that is where the southbridge is. But maybe your a PCB layout master and should start your own company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DankBuddha View Post
    And its not necessary to remove the gfx card if one's case is large enough and they have nimble fingers
    I'll take your other points, but if you video this (ports 3 + 5, 10.5 inch card) and put it on youtube I'll send you 20$.

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