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    Default Re: How to fix "dead" dual BIOS motherboard if flashing failed

    The procedure in this thread is for a motherboard with 2 bios chips only.
    Do you have a case speaker connected to your motherboard? If yes, do you hear any beeps when you turn on your system?
    Does the floppy drive light turn on when trying to boot?
    It sounds like the cpu cooling fan is working when you start your system.

    The only technique that might work is to try using a blind flash from the floppy drive.
    The bios file would need to be on a bootable dos drive where the AUTOEXEC.bat file would have a command to automatically run the bios flashing program, such as flashspi 945GCM.F3. I think that AWDFLASH is the program that is included in the downloaded bios file.
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    Default Re: How to fix "dead" dual BIOS motherboard if flashing failed

    Hi,
    speaker on the star is silent (o_0) - lack beep

    Floppy on the start too is silent -no light, no work, only are heard power supply and the end

    "It sounds like the cpu cooling fan is working when you start your system." <-cooling fan is full speed, yes as for dos

    keyboard -off light and zero reaction


    ok, recover disk (floopy) to contain :
    autoexec.bat :
    @Echo off
    awdflash bios.bin

    and two files :
    awdflash.exe
    bios.bin

    how recoever to award bios?


    (I think that probably dead norh/south brige or something else)
    Last edited by tomxx; 11-02-2012 at 12:37 AM.

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    Default Re: How to fix "dead" dual BIOS motherboard if flashing failed

    Using a floppy for a blind flash is useful if the floppy drive is already set to be the first boot device and the keyboard is not responding.
    From your description it sounds like the bios is damaged and can't begin the post process.
    With some motherboards, it is sometimes possible for the bios to search for a bios in the HPA (hidden partition area) in a hard drive or in the root directory of a FAT partition on a floppy drive or hard drive.

    I think that your motherboard is dead.
    The only possible option might be if you could buy a good bios chip and have someone with experience desolder the bios chip and replace it with a working bios chip designed to work in your motherboard.
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    Wink Re: How to fix "dead" dual BIOS motherboard if flashing failed

    Just wanted to take the time to register and say thank you! You have just helped fix my PC. I had flashed the server recommended download bios using @bios which turned out to be the wrong one. This meant the fans just kept cycling and nothing happened. Unfortunately the backup bios wouldn't kick in (prob because it did boot so it looked like it was working to the back up). Anyway I followed your guide (it took 6 turns of trying it for it to work so anyone else giving it a go keep it up and keep trying it will work eventually) and it worked and the backup wrote over the main and i'm up and running again. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    You may also just manually short pins 5-6 on the MAIN BIOS, this way no solder is needed

    Info posted here, I have sent this to many users and it has saved their boards. Also tested personally a few times.

    XtremeSystems Forums - View Single Post - Official Gigabyte X48T-DQ6 Info Thread - UnBricked It

    Direct Pic from PDF I made and use to give to others >>



    PDF in case anyone needs sometime. This is for the 8Mbit BIOS Dual chip boards ONLY, if you only have one chip you CANNOT use these methods and will need to try other fixes, and if you have no luck you will have to RMA. This WILL NOT Work for boards with a Single BIOS chip

    BIOS CHIP mx25l8005.pdf

    I am posting this more for you personally than anything, as I often only send info such as this via PM as a last resort because there is many ways to fix things before taking anything this far. And most users do not want to try those things first, or have not fully/properly tried. So I always tend to PM this kind of info so people don't jump the gun and make things worse.

    Anyhow, if you posted your guide anywhere else you may also want to add this info as well. Thanks for your guide, I am sure people will look it up down the road, those that use search anyway :)

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    Default Re: How to fix "dead" dual BIOS motherboard if flashing failed

    Hello,

    I seem to have bricked my GA-990FXA-UD3 rev. 1.0 Motherboard. I was wondering if this method will work with my board. The M_BIOS chip has these numbers on the top:

    MXIC MX
    25L320BE
    M2I-128.
    2$$788400
    L122576

    $$ is two numbers that I can't quite make out, and the B on line 2 might be an 8.

    See attached photo, it might help.How to fix &quot;dead&quot; dual BIOS motherboard if flashing failed-m_bios-jpg


    The pin configuration is the same as what I'm seeing in this thread.

    Can anyone tell me if this will work and also that if I try it, there shouldn't be a chance of me frying my Motherboard?

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    Default Re: How to fix "dead" dual BIOS motherboard if flashing failed

    your Chip is an MX25L3208E, according to the datasheet, on Page 7 your pinout matches the first post

    Here is the datasheet for your: http://www.po-star.com/public/upload...164634_571.pdf

    Here is the datasheet for the Bios in post #1 (see page 2 for pinout); http://www.macronix.com/QuickPlace/h...df?OpenElement

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    Default Re: How to fix "dead" dual BIOS motherboard if flashing failed

    Hi guys, first off can I say a big thanks to tgun and lsdmeasap (great name!). I ran a LAN gaming centre for a couple of years and we had 50+ GA-X38-DS5's and DQ6's. A LOT of which died and most of which were recovered thanks to this thread.

    I'm posting in case anybody can help me, I have 4 of these boards left over that I couldn't get to recover with your techniques, so I've taken to desoldering them and flashing new chips myself but with limited success.

    The closest I've come so far is: I bought a strip of new MX25L8005 chips, flashed them to the latest release (tried others also), can boot into bios, can flash main bios via utility if booted into backup bios, etc...
    But, once I pass bios and hand it over to check DMI they'll crash out and throw an "Main BIOS checksum error". This is as far as I can get.

    So basically, does anybody here have any experience flashing these chips from new? Any experience with this error? Or, does anybody know a way to force the BIOS to update the Intel ahci ROM?

    The reason I ask about the ROM is because I have a theory that this is where the problems may originate; I'm short on time so all I'll say is backup BIOS without ROM recovering main bios which had already updated the ROM...

    Thanks in advance for any help!

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    Default Re: How to fix "dead" dual BIOS motherboard if flashing failed

    Have you tried getting pre-flashed bios chips from ebay?

    here is one of many; BIOS CHIP:GIGABYTE GA-X38-DS5 | eBay

    and ; BIOS CHIP:GIGABYTE GA-X38-DQ6 | eBay

    I would give that a try.

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    MB = Gigabyte 790FXTA-UD5
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    Default Re: How to fix "dead" dual BIOS motherboard if flashing failed

    Hi Vin, thanks for the suggestion but I'm fairly certain the chips I flashed are running ok, they verify fine after flashing and they get me into bios after all.
    Although that said... you have given me the idea to try copy the image off a working board and see if there's any difference to the files I'm using.

    It's when the bios would usually verify the DMI data that it crashes, I guess what I'm really curious to find out is if there is a way to force the bios to update the intel rom.
    Perhaps a Gigabyte specific feature that I can force an update; or is it as simple as update only if newer version found?

    Edit: I've modded the DS5 F7f BIOS with the latest Intel RAID ROM, will give it a blast tomorrow...
    Last edited by Diac0D3v1l; 04-01-2013 at 12:29 PM.

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    Default Re: How to fix "dead" dual BIOS motherboard if flashing failed

    Something else that might be of use, try googling Award 6.0 BIOS - BootBlock Recovery. Profjim pointed me in that direction not long ago for an issue I had, and may be of use to you in regard to your current issue.

    Vin
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    Mem = 12GB 2000Mhz corsair Dominator GT at 2010Mhz @ 9-10-9-27-2T
    MB = Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 v1.0 with F6 Bios - Dead Board
    MB = EVGA X58 Classified3 e770
    GPU = 2x Sapphire r9 290x in xfire
    HD = 2x Toshiba 120GB Raid 0 (580MB Read/140MB Write)
    Storage = 2TB WD Black
    PSU = EVGA SuperNOVA 1300w
    Case = Cooler Master HAF-X 945

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    OS = Win7 64Bit running XBMC HTPC Front end with Windows Server 2011 Virtual Machine with 8GB ram assigned for homer server with exchange
    CPU = AMD 1090T
    Mem = 16GB 1600Mhz Kingston RED Limited Edition running at 1600Mhz
    MB = Gigabyte 790FXTA-UD5
    GPU- EVGA GT210
    HD = too many to count, but about 5TB of storage all together including backup
    PSU = Corsair TX750
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