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    Default Re: UD3P and Q9550 Overclock Problems

    Attached is a form I made up to keep track of my settings while OCing. I just print a few copies and use a pencil.

    Its a spread sheet file in Open Office org but Excel should open it. If you don't have either one just search for open office and download it. It's free as it's open source.

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    Default Re: UD3P and Q9550 Overclock Problems

    Here is where I have done today:
    • Increased the CPU Reference to .812V
    • Increased the MCH Reference to .812V
    • Increased the I/O Core to 1.20V
    • Ran OCCT and it Core0 failed
    • Increased the Vcore to 1.325V
    • Ran OCCT and it Blue Screened
    • Increased the MCH Core to 1.24V
    • Ran OCCT for 60 minutes - no errors
    • Increased the FSB to 457
    • Ran OCCT for 60 minutes - no errors
    • increased the FSB to 459 (3.90GHz - the promised land)
    • Ran OCCT for 60 minutes - no errors
    • Started Prime95 and hour ago and it is still running
    Sure looks like the MCH Core was starved and wanted more power!

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    Default Re: UD3P and Q9550 Overclock Problems

    Glad your getting there Ken, now the above what you did today is how it's done.

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    Default Re: UD3P and Q9550 Overclock Problems

    If I never heard of Prime95 I'd think I had a stable machine. But...the system rebooted itself after 2 hours and 55 minutes based on the Vista event log. At least I'm out of the blue screen world for now. Before I start incrementing stuff (one at a time) can one of you guys give me a little guidance on what I should look at first. What is it that failed that would allow Vista to shut itself down and restart?

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    Default Re: UD3P and Q9550 Overclock Problems

    It's been a bit since you've posted your bios settings and a screen-shot. We've discussed several tweaks and you've documented some of the changes and results.

    To minimize possible errors or omissions (on our part or yours) it's best if we know what settings were in use at the time of the error. If we have to search back through the thread to find what changes had been make, it's possible that we might overlook one or more of the changes. In some threads you'll see an updated bios template and screen-shots after almost every test. Some only post a list of changed settings. It's best if we have the complete bios template so that we can pick up any problems in the settings in different parts of the bios.

    The event log might not have any useful information, or there might be an entry that describes a problem with another program or service near the time of the failure.
    The screen-shots will be more legible if you crop the unused portion of the screen.
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    Default Re: UD3P and Q9550 Overclock Problems

    I agree with what Jim says and check the event log it should show a stop error of some sort and a code.

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    The Event Log is gone. I cleared it. I'm sure I can recreate the failure and be smart enough to save the detail - although all it said was an unexplained failure causing the shutdown. I was just trying to show you all the stuff I can get on my new 24" 1080P monitor so much for that!

    BIOS settings and Cropped Screen Dump to follow.
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    Motherboard: Model: GA-EP45-UD3P(rev 1.6) Bios Version:  FDa
    Cpu: Q9550 E0
    Ram: 2X2GB Brand:  Mushkin 996559 XP2-8500 DDR2 - Mushkin Enhanced
    Power Supply Unit: Corsair 620HX
    
    MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ---------------- : [Auto] 
    CPU Clock Ratio ------------------------ : [ 8 X]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ------------------- : [+0.5] 
    CPU Frequency -----------------------: 3.90GHz( 459X8.5)
    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control ----------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------- : [ 459]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ------------ : [ 100]
    C.I.A.2 -------------------------------- : [Disabled]
    Advanced Clock Control     [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive ------------------------ : [ 800mV]
    PCI Express Clock Drive ---------------- : [ 900Mv]
    CPU Clock Skew (ps) -------------------- : [   0ps]
    MCH Clock Skew (ps) -------------------- : [   0ps]
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance -------------------- : [Standard]
    Extreme Memory Profile --- (X.M.P.) ---- : [Disabled]
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch ----------------- : [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier --------------- : [2.40B]
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) -----------------: 1066 1102
    DRAM Timing Selectable -(SPD)----------- : [Manual]
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time -------- 5 ------------ : [5]  
    tRCD -------------------- 7 ------------ : [   5] 
    tRP --------------------- 7 ------------ : [   5] 
    tRAS ------------------- 24 ------------ : [  15] 
    Advanced Timing Control    [Press Enter]
    tRRD -------------------- 4 ------------ : [ 3]  
    tWTR -------------------- 4 ------------ : [ 3]  
    tWR --------------------- 8 -------------: [ 5]  
    tRFC --------------------68 ------------ : [52]  
    tRTP -------------------- 4 ------------ : [ 3]  
    Command Rate (CMD) ------ 0 -------------: [Auto]
    Channel A
    Channel A Timing Settings  [Press Enter]
    Static tRead Value ------ 8 ------------ : [ 8]  
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment --- 0 ------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment --- 0 ------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment --- 0 ------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment --- 0 ------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) -- 8 ------------ : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) -- 8 ------------ : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) -- 7 ------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) -- 9 ------------ : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]
    DDR Write Training --------------------- : [Auto]
    Channel B
    Channel B Timing Settings  [Press Enter]
    Static tRead Value ------ 8 ------------ : [ 8]  
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment --- 0 ------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment --- 0 ------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment --- 0 ------------ : [Auto]
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment --- 0 ------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2rd(Different Rank) -- 8 ------------ : [Auto]
    Twr2wr(Different Rank) -- 8 ------------ : [Auto]
    Twr2rd(Different Rank) -- 7 ------------ : [Auto]
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank) -- 9 ------------ : [Auto]
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control --------------- : [Auto]
    DDR Write Training --------------------- : [Auto]
    Channel A Driving Settings [Press Enter]
    Driving Strength Profile --------------- : [Auto]
    Data Driving Pull-Up Level ------------- : [Auto]
    Cmd  Driving Pull-Up Level ------------- : [Auto]
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level ------------- : [Auto]
    Clk  Driving Pull-Up Level ------------- : [Auto]
    Data Driving Pull-Down Level ----------- : [Auto]
    Cmd  Driving Pull-Down Level ----------- : [Auto]
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level ----------- : [Auto]
    Clk  Driving Pull-Down Level ----------- : [Auto]
    Channel B Driving Settings [Press Enter]
    Driving Strength Profile --------------- : [Auto]
    Data Driving Pull-Up Level ------------- : [Auto]
    Cmd  Driving Pull-Up Level ------------- : [Auto]
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Up Level ------------- : [Auto]
    Clk  Driving Pull-Up Level ------------- : [Auto]
    Data Driving Pull-Down Level ----------- : [Auto]
    Cmd  Driving Pull-Down Level ----------- : [Auto]
    Ctrl Driving Pull-Down Level ----------- : [Auto]
    Clk  Driving Pull-Down Level ----------- : [Auto]
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    CPU
    Voltage Types ----------- Normal ---------- Current
    Load-Line Calibration ------------------ : [Disabled]
    CPU Vcore --------------- 1.28750V ----- : [1.3250V] 
    CPU Termination --------- 1.200V* ------ : [1.220V] 
    CPU PLL ----------------- 1.500V* ------ : [1.500V] 
    CPU Reference ----------- 0.760V* ------ : [0.812V] 
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.24V] 
    MCH Reference ----------- 0.760V ------- : [0.812V]
    MCH/DRAM Ref ------------ 0.900V ------- : [1.030V]
    ICH I/O ----------------- 1.500V ------- : [1.570V] 
    ICH Core ---------------- 1.100V ------- : [1.200V] 
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ------------ 1.800V ------- : [2.060V] 
    DRAM Termination -------- 0.900V ------- : [1.030V]
    Channel A Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    Channel B Reference ----- 0.900V ------- : [Auto]
    Standard CMOS Features
    Floppy A ------------------------------- : [None]
    Floppy 3 Mode Support ------------------ : [Disabled]
    Advanced Settings
    Hard Disk Boot Priority ---------------- : [Press Enter]
    Quick Boot ----------------------------- : [Disabled]
    First Boot Device ---------------------- : [CDROM]
    Second Boot Device --------------------- : [Hard Disk]
    Third Boot Device ---------------------- : [Disabled]
    Password Check ------------------------- : [Setup]
    HDD S.M.A.R.T. Capability -------------- : [Enabled]
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3 ------------------ : [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect -------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ---------------- : [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support ------------------- : [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2 (TM2) ------------ : [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function ---------------------- : [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology -------------- : [Disabled] 
    Display For HDD (Secs) ----------------- : [ 0]
    Full Screen LOGO Show ------------------ : [Disabled]
    Backup BIOS Image to HDD --------------- : [Disabled]
    Init Display First --------------------- : [PCI]
    Integrated Peripherals
    SATA RAID/AHCI Mode -------------------- : [Disabled]
    SATA Port0-3 Native Mode --------------- : [Disabled]
    Azalia Codec --------------------------- : [Disabled]
    Onboard H/W 1394 ----------------------- : [Disabled]
    Onboard H/W LAN1 ----------------------- : [Enabled]
    Onboard H/W LAN2 ----------------------- : [Enabled]
    Green Lan ------------------------------ : [Disabled]
    Smart LAN1 ----------------------------- : [Press Enter]
    Smart LAN2 ----------------------------- : [Press Enter]
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    Onboard LAN2 Boot ROM ------------------ : [Disabled]
    Onboard SATA/IDE Device ---------------- : [Enabled]
    Onboard SATA/IDE Ctrl Mode ------------- : [IDE]
    Onboard Serial Port 1 ------------------ : [Disabled]
    Onboard Parallel Port ------------------ : [Disabled]
    X Parallel Port Mode ------------------- :  SPP
    X ECP Mode Use DMA --------------------- :  3
    USB 1.0 Controlller -------------------- : [Enabled]
    USB 2.0 Controlller -------------------- : [Enabled]
    USB Keyboard Function ------------------ : [Enabled]
    USB Mouse Function --------------------- : [Enabled]
    USB Storage Function ------------------- : [Disabled]
    PC Health Status
    Reset Case Open Status ----------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Warning Temperature ---------------- : [70 C/150 F]
    CPU Fan Warning ------------------------ : [Disabled]
    System Fan2 Fail Warning --------------- : [Disabled]
    Power Fan Warning ---------------------- : [Disabled]
    CPU Smart Fan Control ------------------ : [Enabled]
    CPU Samrt Fan Mode --------------------- : [PWM]
    OCCT 1 Hour - No Errors
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    Default Re: UD3P and Q9550 Overclock Problems

    For now you might loosen these up till you are stable.

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    Advanced Timing Control    [Press Enter]
    tRRD -------------------- 4 ------------ : [ 3]  4
    tWTR -------------------- 4 ------------ : [ 3]  4
    tWR --------------------- 8 -------------: [ 5]  8
    tRFC --------------------68 ------------ : [52]  68
    tRTP -------------------- 4 ------------ : [ 3]  4
    Command Rate (CMD) ------ 0 -------------: [Auto] 2
    I would also play with the CPU Reference and MCH Reference voltages at this point.


    Say start with the MCH Reference up one notch and test. Is that better or worse? If better you can stop there or try one more notch and test. Is that better or worse? If worse back it down a notch and call it good.

    Then move to the CPU Reference and do the came thing. IF it seems like these two aren't doing much try CPU termination voltage using the same approach. If its still not working good try MCH Core voltage using the same approach. Some combination of the four voltages has to work. Just go to play with it.

    It took me several weeks ans a lot of testing to get mine correct from 2.83 to 3.9 GHz.

    profJim probably has other better thoughts, after all I have only been doing this for about 6 months, and there is no way you can learn it all... I'm a noob lol
    Last edited by Conners; 10-06-2009 at 11:19 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Just a quick update on the first failure after 2 hours and 55 minutes - I think that was a true Vista failure because I found all kinds of problems in the registry that were probably caused by all the blue screens I was getting. I fixed the registry stuff and re-ran Prime95 with the same settings. This time it ran for 4 hours and 39 minutes and terminated with my old friend the blue screen. Conners, I know I'm being sturborn and won't go back to the memory settings you suggested so I increased the MCH Core voltage one more time to 1.26V. Prime95 is running and if it fails I'll conceed to the slower settings and try again with 1.24V. Is 1.26V getting too high and or how does the MCH Reference voltage fit into this issue?

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    Well it look as though your making head way Ken. NP on not changing the timings, it is your system.

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