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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    Hey Guys, I am back with updated BIOS settings. I have been going thru a lot lately so sorry about absence. I have been testing with Memtest64+ lately and there have been no errors as long as I keep the BIOS settings within reason. Certain settings are critical, like the System memory multiplier, currently its at 2.66D. I also lowered the V-core to 1.28125 as I heard that the newer chips dont need that much voltage and can be ruined if overvolted. I will try to post all the required screenshots for your viewing pleasure. I have a 1 picture maximum per post. I wonder if this is new rule?

    Also here are my BIOS settings. IMP SETTINGS IN COLOR
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.) Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio .................7x Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ..................2.53GHz
    Clock Chip Control Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............:362 MHz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........: 100 always
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800 PCI Express Clock Drive............: 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0 MCH Clock Skew (ps)...............: 0

    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD] Always
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch..........: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier .........2.66D Memory Frequency (Mhz) ........965
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    Standard Timing Control
    Update 11-22-09 I changed the memory settings to 5-7-7-24 as is listed in the BIOS MIT section to left of settings


    CAS Latency Time......................5. tRCD ....................................5...
    tRP'.......................................5.... tRAS.....................................18 Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...................................4 tWTR.......................................6
    tWR....................................8 tRFC.....................................64
    tRTP....................................5 Command Rate (CMD) ................2
    Driving Strength Profiles...auto
    Driving Strength ............................ Channel A
    Static tRead Value....................Auto.:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment.....:Auto
    tRD Phase2 adjustment ...............:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    ps Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Channel B Static tRead Value........Auto 6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for
    all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    ps Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Motherboard Voltage Control CPU
    LOAD LINE CALIBRATION ENABLED
    CPU Vcore….………...1.28125..........:Auto if not overclocking,
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V If overclocking Please set to stock,
    CPU PLL…………1.5500V#....: << If overclocking Please set to stock
    CPU Referen.………….... Auto (or .805).......: <<< .64% Of Vtt
    (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly
    MCH/ICH MCH Core….....1.16V< MCH Reference…0.800V...........; Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave ICH I/O…...1.55V............: <<<
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V.........: <<< Leave
    DRAM DRAM Voltage ……....2.00V............:
    DRAM Termination .…N/A..<< Leave
    Channel A Reference N/A...<< Leave
    Channel B Reference N/A............: <<< Leave
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3...................: Disabled
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: Disabled C2/C2E State Support....................: Disabled
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: Disabled CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: Disabled Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
    Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    Integrated Peripherals Legacy USB Storage Detect .......[Enabled]Just installed a printer so I dont want to diable just yet.
    11-21-09 Updated post with load line calibration enabled line. learned this will keep the voltages stable overall but not sure why its not being advertized and just left as disabled???
    Last edited by MadMax2911; 11-23-2009 at 01:58 AM. Reason: add pix add info as well
    BUILD #2 GA-EP45-DS3R [Rev1.0] BIOS Flashed F11e, CPU=INTEL Core2 Quad Q8200 Yorkfield-4M LGA 775 with Mugen2 cooler RAM= Mushkin 996599 link 2 x 2GB, Hard drive=WD 6400AAKS, DVD=HP dvd1160i OS=Win 7 SP1 64 bit Video=BFG 8800GTS OC edition CASE=Thermaltake Tsunami Dream P.S.=Antec TP3-650

    Build #3 GA-EP45-UD3LR__rev 1.0__ BIOS F11, CPU Core2 Duo E8400 3.157GHz WMugen2 Cooler, Power Supply: Antec EA-500D 500 W, RAM: Corsair 2 GB Hard Drive: WD 160 GB OS: Win XP SP3 Video: MSI GTS450 2GB




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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    Here is a Screenie of OCCT....
    BUILD #2 GA-EP45-DS3R [Rev1.0] BIOS Flashed F11e, CPU=INTEL Core2 Quad Q8200 Yorkfield-4M LGA 775 with Mugen2 cooler RAM= Mushkin 996599 link 2 x 2GB, Hard drive=WD 6400AAKS, DVD=HP dvd1160i OS=Win 7 SP1 64 bit Video=BFG 8800GTS OC edition CASE=Thermaltake Tsunami Dream P.S.=Antec TP3-650

    Build #3 GA-EP45-UD3LR__rev 1.0__ BIOS F11, CPU Core2 Duo E8400 3.157GHz WMugen2 Cooler, Power Supply: Antec EA-500D 500 W, RAM: Corsair 2 GB Hard Drive: WD 160 GB OS: Win XP SP3 Video: MSI GTS450 2GB




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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    Its funny ,
    When I was posting here about Q8200 overclocking on Gigabyte and the processor was failry new , there didnt seem to be many others doing it.
    Psycho did it for a short while but then he went to the "darkside"(duals).
    I thought most would be on Q8400 by now considering the small price difference.

    However even considering your cpu revision difference and 1.25 VID,(1.225v) here.
    You should be able to get a lot more performance on a 2:00 memory multiplier and with 400 mhz+ cpu host frequency.
    My everyday settings are in this post.
    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/help...77/#post332803

    You should need much lower voltages for say 450mhz cpu host ref.
    Bear in mind also we want cpu speed more than memory speed.
    Chances are with our very low cpu multiplier(compared to some) you will get more performance with a 2:00 multiplier for memory.
    Last edited by kick; 11-22-2009 at 10:09 AM.
    Current Systems:

    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
    http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    Well I was actually looking for a dual core, CPU then this Q8200 was just saying buy me! So I did buy him and now I see that it was not the best purchase as Dual cores are better OCers and four cores and for all intents and purposes not needed for todays apps. Until software engineers start writing apps to use four cores they are really tomorrows chips correct? Wait, there may be a few apps that use all four cores but you know what I mean right?
    Your second statement says that I should try a 2.00D setting for memory and up the CPU host frequency to 400+ then right? And lower the CPU Vcore as well right?? What happened to use the Vcore setting in bios health section and add .05 volts to it for starting Vcore setting??? This was recommended by another prominent member of the forums.
    Max out and thanks for your help.
    BUILD #2 GA-EP45-DS3R [Rev1.0] BIOS Flashed F11e, CPU=INTEL Core2 Quad Q8200 Yorkfield-4M LGA 775 with Mugen2 cooler RAM= Mushkin 996599 link 2 x 2GB, Hard drive=WD 6400AAKS, DVD=HP dvd1160i OS=Win 7 SP1 64 bit Video=BFG 8800GTS OC edition CASE=Thermaltake Tsunami Dream P.S.=Antec TP3-650

    Build #3 GA-EP45-UD3LR__rev 1.0__ BIOS F11, CPU Core2 Duo E8400 3.157GHz WMugen2 Cooler, Power Supply: Antec EA-500D 500 W, RAM: Corsair 2 GB Hard Drive: WD 160 GB OS: Win XP SP3 Video: MSI GTS450 2GB




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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    I like my Q8200 and got it on what ws a v good deal over a year ago.
    What Im saying is if the Q8400 had been around then for $15 more i wouldnt be running a Q8200.

    All things being equal a quad core cpu should outperform a dual core in any application at the same operating speed.Duals do get higher oclock speeds,towards the mbrd limits, (higher multipler for the same price,only 2 cores for the other components to service),but you are a long way from those I think.

    I think of VID as being the maximum voltage the cpu should need to operate at standard speeds.
    In my case thats shown as 1.225V, for your apparently slightly different cpu revision its shown as 1.25V.
    Is 1.25V shown in the bios health section at standard settings when you boot up?
    Anyway what it seems to indicate is that for any given cpu speed you may need a little over 2% more voltage than I do.

    1.365Vcpu core is a figure thats tossed around as the voltage you shouldnt go over if you want the cpu to last 5 years +.1.365-1.4 it may still last 5 years ,but no guarantees.1.4V upwards is at your own risk.
    This is still speculation as there are no 5 year old Q8200's out there but there are probably quite a few that have burned out with overvolting.

    Im gassing on a bit ,but save a bios setting that is 100% stable so that you can allways load it and work from there.
    For your memory Prof Jim should have a lot of information on settings etc.

    I wanted to see what my memory would do for a max ,its standard speed is 800mhz 4-4-4-12 timing at 1.8-1.9V.
    Holding the cpu speed down the best I could get was 1060mhz with approx 2.3v for memory and 6-5-5-18 timings.
    So i dont have 1066mhz memory.
    That doesnt really matter that much to me anymore tho I would experiment with some if i had it.

    Getting the highest Q8200 speed for me at least needs the memory running on a 2 multiplier.

    For further memory testing I determined that (for me)900mhz was the highest stablle memory speed I could get with 4-4-4-12 timings,voltage needed was 2.14V approx.
    I brought the cpu up to 3.15Ghz ,using 450 cpu host frequencyand cpu core V was approx 1.28V.
    Increasing the memory timings to 5-5-5-15 enabled me to drop the memory voltage back down to 2.0v approx and by the time 460 cpu host frequency was reached (920mhz memory speed) there was more memory performance than on the 4-4-4-12 timings.

    Of course the cpu speed is increasing also at this point and that gives the biggest performance gain.Cpu core voltage in bios and mem voltage and mch voltage had to be gradually increased from this point on to roughly what is in my sig.
    there may be some point around say 470 cpu host frequency(1880 mhz fsb) where if you have really good 1066 or 1100+ memory you might be able to run the memory on the lowest multiplier available,2.4 I think it is and have the memory running at 1130mhz but taking cpu speed as king you may be able to run a 485 cpu host frequency with the memory on a 2 multiplier and get more overall performance .
    nb increasing fsb also increases the memory bandwidth.

    Sorry if that seems a bit long but there may be something helpfull in there.
    Current Systems:

    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
    http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    I think of VID as being the maximum voltage the cpu should need to operate at standard speeds.
    In my case thats shown as 1.225V, for your apparently slightly different cpu revision its shown as 1.25V.
    Is 1.25V shown in the bios health section at standard settings when you boot up?
    Anyway what it seems to indicate is that for any given cpu speed you may need a little over 2% more voltage than I do.
    I'll have to look and get back to you, and will edit my post.
    I looked in BIOS health section and it says 1.268v and in MIT the values are set to 1.28125(now changed down to 1.268 to try) and in CPUz in my post the listed Vcore or VID is 1.25v Using the hard fast rule to allow OC speeds the Vcore would be 1.25 + .05 = 1.3v right? But that would be for OCing up to 3GHz or 3.5GHz correct? I think the best course of action is to start with a low CPU Vcore say 1.25v and begin to OC then when problems start to occur then we need to think about upping the Vcore to +.05V for stability. Of course I am not a Genius OK. :)
    11-22-09 Update I changed the RAM settings to 5-7-7-24 as listed in the BIOS settings to the left to try as well. :)
    Last edited by MadMax2911; 11-23-2009 at 01:57 AM. Reason: add info
    BUILD #2 GA-EP45-DS3R [Rev1.0] BIOS Flashed F11e, CPU=INTEL Core2 Quad Q8200 Yorkfield-4M LGA 775 with Mugen2 cooler RAM= Mushkin 996599 link 2 x 2GB, Hard drive=WD 6400AAKS, DVD=HP dvd1160i OS=Win 7 SP1 64 bit Video=BFG 8800GTS OC edition CASE=Thermaltake Tsunami Dream P.S.=Antec TP3-650

    Build #3 GA-EP45-UD3LR__rev 1.0__ BIOS F11, CPU Core2 Duo E8400 3.157GHz WMugen2 Cooler, Power Supply: Antec EA-500D 500 W, RAM: Corsair 2 GB Hard Drive: WD 160 GB OS: Win XP SP3 Video: MSI GTS450 2GB




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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    You can post 10 images per post, you just only can attach one. Upload them to imageshack or photobucket, ect. I use tinypic myself.

    Then put the direct URL into a image tag like shown below >>
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    The thing is you "should" be able to run 3Ghz cpu speed without any real problems on your board if the memory is halfway decent and it seems to be ok.
    For a day or so after i got my Q8200,while I was waiting for mbrd delievery I was limited to 2.8ghz max cpu speed on an older(GA 73 PVM-S2) mbrd.
    There are a couple of reasons for that,chief among them is that there is no memory voltage adjustment on that mbrd series.(it gives memory V of 1.8 v,thats all u get)
    That would be even with the intel standard cooler.

    There are a few ways to test,but:
    To get yourself off that 2.4Ghz cpu speed .
    Force the memory to run on a 2:00 multiplier..
    That is, if you set a cpu host frequency of 370 mhz:
    1.your memory should be running at 740mhz ddr2 speed(undercloked yes but it should give you a feel for the mbrd)
    2.Your cpu should be running at 2.6ghz(when loaded)

    With most settings on auto the only ones that should need changing would be cpu core and perhaps mch voltage.

    With your optimised settings loaded ,you would force the memory to run at only the cpu host frequency x2.. which would be a 667mhz memory speed at start.

    Keep the memory at only cpu host frequency x2 as you go up in speed.
    You should only have to vary 2 items, the cpu core voltage and mch voltage initially.

    Perhaps as you get closer to 400mhz cpu host frequency you may have to increase memory voltage also.

    dont go over 1.35v in bios for cpu core,dont go over 2.2v in bios for memory ,dont go over 1.35v in bios for mch core while going up to 390-400mhz cpu host frequency with everything else on auto and you shouldnt have any problems.

    You really shouldnt need those voltages and should end up with around 3.0ghz cpu speed without strain.(in theory)

    Once you get there you should have a good feel for what to do next.
    Current Systems:

    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
    http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    Well, lets see if I can get some pix up

    BUILD #2 GA-EP45-DS3R [Rev1.0] BIOS Flashed F11e, CPU=INTEL Core2 Quad Q8200 Yorkfield-4M LGA 775 with Mugen2 cooler RAM= Mushkin 996599 link 2 x 2GB, Hard drive=WD 6400AAKS, DVD=HP dvd1160i OS=Win 7 SP1 64 bit Video=BFG 8800GTS OC edition CASE=Thermaltake Tsunami Dream P.S.=Antec TP3-650

    Build #3 GA-EP45-UD3LR__rev 1.0__ BIOS F11, CPU Core2 Duo E8400 3.157GHz WMugen2 Cooler, Power Supply: Antec EA-500D 500 W, RAM: Corsair 2 GB Hard Drive: WD 160 GB OS: Win XP SP3 Video: MSI GTS450 2GB




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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    You need to set your own memory timings, auto is killing your performance!

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