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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    Yes as Lsd is saying you will have to put in your own memory timings.
    in the 5-7-7-24 :The 5 isnt too bad but the other timings are way out there.The jedec 0# timings and voltage should work ok up to 400mhz cpu host frequency BUT why not just put in the EPP1 settings for now just to be sure .
    They are settings for memory running at 1066mhz,if u hold the memory speed down to 400/800mhz that should take the memory out as an overclocking bottleneck for now.Give the memory 2.1v in bios for extra security.
    Get the cpu host frequency up to 400mhz in stages after that .
    You have 380 working now (2.66Ghz cpu),
    Get to 400 or actually go for 399 (2.8Ghz cpu) and if you are unsure what to try next, post all your bios settings at that point+ whatever screenshots you have.
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    Quote Originally Posted by kick View Post
    Yes as Lsd is saying you will have to put in your own memory timings.
    in the 5-7-7-24 :The 5 isnt too bad but the other timings are way out there.The jedec 0# timings and voltage should work ok up to 400mhz cpu host frequency BUT why not just put in the EPP1 settings for now just to be sure .
    Right I was just testing the 5-7-7-24 settings as they were displayed in the BIOS next to my 5-5-5-18 settings. but I guess they are not as good as 5-5-5-18 like you are saying. I will look at the EPP1 settings and test - investigate soon. I see them now its 5-5-5-15 at 533 speed.
    Ok will try 399-400 tonight after work with EPP1 settings and RAM volt at 2.1 too. then will post screenies as well Thanks
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    I do suggest you don't use EPP settings, unless you meant manully entering them and only mentioned EPP because you meant "look at EPP / Set manually"

    Good luck and Happy Turkey Day!

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    I do suggest you don't use EPP settings, unless you meant manully entering them and only mentioned EPP because you meant "look at EPP / Set manually"

    Good luck and Happy Turkey Day!
    Note I do not expect any answers on the holiday break.....

    OK starting with manually entered 5-5-5-18 values then will try manual 5-5-5-15 settings. I have reached 400 BS and 1066 memory speed to get a clock speed of 2.8GHz I think. Here are some screenies and will follow with BIOS settings later. also testing for stability would be a must as well with prime 95 or OCCT or any rec tool. Getting awfully hungry for turkey and beer
    GA-EP45-UD3LR Rev. 1.0 BIOS version F7
    CPU model Intel Core2Quad Q8200 Yorkfield 2M CPU stepping R0
    RAM Mushkin 996599 2 X 2G sticks link 996599 - 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 PC2-8500 5-5-5-15 Blackline (Dual Kit)
    Power supply Antec Earthwatts EA-500D

    Required BIOS settings with Imp settings listed in color. Full settings will be given later on.
    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster -------------- : [Auto] <--- FAST is OK
    CPU Clock Ratio ---------------------- : [7X]
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio ----------------- : [0.0] < ignore if not available
    CPU Frequency ---------------------: 400

    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control --------------- : [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) --------------: 2.8GHz [Mhz]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) ---------- : [100] <--- Set to 100, never leave this on Auto
    CIA 2.....................................Disabled

    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: 800 PCI Express Clock Drive............: 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: 0 MCH Clock Skew (ps)...............: 0

    DRAM Performance Control
    performance Enhance .........[STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch..........: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier .........2.66DMemory Frequency (Mhz) ........1066
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    Standard Timing Control tRCD ....................................5...
    tRP'.......................................5.... tRAS.....................................18
    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...................................4 tWTR.......................................6
    tWR....................................8 tRFC.....................................64
    tRTP....................................5 Command Rate (CMD) ................2
    Driving Strength Profiles...autoDriving Strength ............................ Channel A
    Static tRead Value....................auto.:6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment.....:Auto
    tRD Phase2 adjustment ...............:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    ps Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Channel B Static tRead Value........Auto 6/7-10 333/B MCH - 8/9-12 400/D MCH
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto <<< Leave for
    all below as well
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    ps Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Motherboard Voltage Control CPU
    LOAD LINE CALIBRATION ENABLED
    CPU Vcore….………...1.26875..........:Auto if not overclocking,
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V If overclocking Please set to stock,
    CPU PLL…………1.5500V#....: << If overclocking Please set to stock
    CPU Referen.………….... auto.......: <<< .64% Of Vtt
    (Termination above) Auto Will set this correctly
    MCH/ICH MCH Core….....1.16V< MCH Reference…auto...........; Leave
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........: <<< Leave ICH I/O…...1.55V............: <<<
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V.........: <<< Leave
    DRAM DRAM Voltage ……....2.020V............: yes I know this could bet more but I am testing with low values first.
    DRAM Termination .…N/A..<< Leave
    Channel A Reference N/A...<< Leave
    Channel B Reference N/A............: <<< Leave
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3...................: Disabled
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: Disabled C2/C2E State Support....................: Disabled
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: Disabled CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: Disabled Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]
    Enabled if you use Vmware/Virtual PC
    Integrated Peripherals Legacy USB Storage Detect .......[Enabled]Just installed a printer so I dont want to disable just yet.
    Integrated Periferals
    ICH SATA Control Mode ..........[ACHI]
    SATA Port 0-3 mode ...........[Enabled]
    USB Controller....................[Enabled]
    USB 2.0............................[Enabled]
    USB Keyboard.....................[Disabled] have and old compaq PS/2 keyboard w/no special drivers.
    USB mouse ........................I had this disabled until just today when I realized its for my USB mouse [Enabled]
    Legacy Storage Detect .........[Enabled] My all in one printer may need this-enabled for now-disabled for OC.
    Azalia Codec (Onboard sound)..[Auto]
    Onboard H/W LAN...................[Enabled]
    Green LAN............................[Disabled]
    Smart LAN.............................[Disabled]
    Onboard LAN boot ROM...........[Disabled]
    Onboard IDE Controller............[Enabled]
    Onboard Serial Port 1 .............[Disabled]
    Onboard Parralel Port..............[Disabled]
    Updated with more BIOS settings for the curious onlookers out there. will start prime 95 tests
    Prime 95 runs but the Northbridge heatsink is hot to touch stopping for now till I can get that small fan attached.






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    Last edited by MadMax2911; 11-27-2009 at 06:23 PM. Reason: edit cpu speed
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    So you are reaching some stability now right? If so great, keep at it and let me know if you need further help in tweaking for performance as some of those settings are very loose.

    Turkey sleep has worn off now So I can help tonight if you are around and waiting

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    Yeh i meant enter the epp settings yourself.The xmp/epp option in the bios doesnt work for everyone.

    As of your last post you are on 2.8 Ghz at 400mhz cpu host frequency (1600mhz fsb)
    From here on in you wil lhave to assume a few things.
    1.your memory probably wont work well above 1150mhz
    Consider a maximum of 1100 mhz for now.
    2.you have to increase the cpu host frequency speed to get your cpu running faster. A 7 multiplier is its maximum.
    3.from the above you wont be able to use the 2.66 D multiplier much longer
    2.66x410 would be 1092mhz mem speed ,x415 would be 1106 mhz/
    Unfortunately at 415 your cpuwill only be running at 2.9Ghz

    That means you will be using 3 possible multipliers from then on 2:00B,2:00D or 2:40B.
    Its not the end of the world tho as increasing the cpu host frequency and hence the cpu speed/fsb speed also increases the memory bandwidth.

    You have headroom on cpu V, mch voltage and memory voltage to play with.You know the memory will run 1066mhz at least, on the board.

    Go for 415 cpu host frequency using the 2:66D multiplier if you like,maybe you have some phenomenal 1066 mem that will go much further even but it isnt likely.
    Id go next for 450-460 cpu host frequency,in slow stages using a 2:00B or D multiplier.
    You can probably get away with varying only the cpu core and mch voltages until then.After that u may/probably will have to vary some reference voltages etc.

    Stick with do not exceed voltages in bios of 1.36V for cpu ,1.38V for mch and 2.2ish V for memory.
    You shouldnt need near those voltages for any of the components while going to 3.1-3.2 G cpu speed or 1800-1850 fsb .
    The memory itself will already be on Cas 5 timings and DDR2 speed of only 900mhz so shouldnt need excessive V either.
    If things dont work out post your highest cpu speed stable bios and people may have more suggestions.
    Last edited by kick; 11-28-2009 at 04:13 AM.
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    Quote Originally Posted by kick View Post
    Yeh i meant enter the epp settings yourself.The xmp/epp option in the bios doesnt work for everyone.

    As of your last post you are on 2.8 Ghz at 400mhz cpu host frequency (1600mhz fsb)
    From here on in you wil lhave to assume a few things.
    1.your memory probably wont work well above 1150mhz
    Consider a maximum of 1100 mhz for now.
    2.you have to increase the cpu host frequency speed to get your cpu running faster. A 7 multiplier is its maximum.
    3.from the above you wont be able to use the 2.66 D multiplier much longer
    2.66x410 would be 1092mhz mem speed ,x415 would be 1106 mhz/
    Unfortunately at 415 your cpuwill only be running at 2.9Ghz

    That means you will be using 3 possible multipliers from then on 2:00B,2:00D or 2:40B.
    Its not the end of the world tho as increasing the cpu host frequency and hence the cpu speed/fsb speed also increases the memory bandwidth.

    You have headroom on cpu V, mch voltage and memory voltage to play with.You know the memory will run 1066mhz at least, on the board.

    Go for 415 cpu host frequency using the 2:66D multiplier if you like,maybe you have some phenomenal 1066 mem that will go much further even but it isnt likely.
    Id go next for 450-460 cpu host frequency,in slow stages using a 2:00B or D multiplier.
    You can probably get away with varying only the cpu core and mch voltages until then.After that u may/probably will have to vary some reference voltages etc.

    Stick with do not exceed voltages in bios of 1.36V for cpu ,1.38V for mch and 2.2ish V for memory.
    You shouldnt need near those voltages for any of the components while going to 3.1-3.2 G cpu speed or 1800-1850 fsb .
    The memory itself will already be on Cas 5 timings and DDR2 speed of only 900mhz so shouldnt need excessive V either.
    If things dont work out post your highest cpu speed stable bios and people may have more suggestions.
    To Lsdmeasap and Kick,
    These settings are loose? you must be refering to settings other than memory right as the 5-5-5-15 is rec by memory manufacturer AFAIK. New link for memory 996599 - 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 PC2-8500 5-5-5-15 Blackline (Dual Kit)
    You may be refering to the other settings that could be lowered under Advanced Timing Control.
    Kick I was only planning on a moderate OC with this board as its going to be my backup board for storage and other projects. The recent OC activity has got me thinking just how fast this board can go, but the potential for damage is nagging me now. I had planned to OC my other board, GA-EP45-DS3R, but have been guided to the UD3 series for its cooling properties. At this point I am also considering selling some builds and then reinvesting in other better boards. Finances, are also a consideration as well for me being on a low budget. My main reason for learning to OC is to use and OCed board while gaming and not blow it up in the process and to learn more about BIOS settings too. I have a Electronics Technology Degree and desire to do something with my knowledge.
    I guess the question is which board is a better OC candidate the DS3R or the UD3R?? Sorry if I have mislead you in any way, but I am looking for a moderate OC that is stable for everday usage and allowing for my parts to not burn out too soon, for the Backup PC whatever that turns out to be.
    Thank you for your information on OCing. You seem like you are really knowledgable in this area.
    PS adding other stick of RAM for 4Gigs total. Also added the extra fan on the Northbridge for stability testing at current speeds.
    MadMax out
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    Yes, your memory timings shown in Memset above are VERY loose (Bad Performance), and ya I meant the Advanced settings.

    The Normal P45's such as DS3R cool just fine, no worries on that! I have a DS4P and it is just fine at super high clocks.

    Let us know if you need more help, good luck tweaking and testing until we meet again.

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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    Just checking to see the view count LOL Wow up to 4,200 thats radical man!!!!!!!!!
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    Default Re: EP45-UD3LR BIOS help overclock error message

    To re-flash your saved bios version with its profiles, QFalsh requires that the saved bios file is in a FAT16 or FAT32 partition. If you've saved the file to a FAT16/32 flash drive, I'm pretty sure that QFlash can access the USB drive, even if Legacy Storage Detect is disabled in your bios.
    It's best to test this out ahead of time, as this setting is required to be enabled if you want to boot from a USB drive.
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