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    Default Missing BIOS entries-why?

    I have a GA-EP45-UD3P system board and I just noticed that in BIOS I don't have listed the entries for CPU Multi-Threading and Virtualization Technology. I have an Intel Q9650 Quad CPU so it seems I should be given these entries to configure. I know via the manual that some entries in BIOS don't show up based on your CPU type, but a quad core should get the two I'm missing, I would think. Does anyone know why this would happen and what I could do to resolve the problem? I've already tried reseting CMOS with a jumper, that didn't help. Should I try flashing the BIOS? Also, I noticed that pinned at the top of the forum is a list of latest BIOS files. Are these beta BIOS entries? My board came with FB BIOS and that is what shows as the latest on Gigabytes web site. Thanks for any help.
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    Default Re: Missing BIOS entries-why?

    Quote Originally Posted by whit80 View Post
    I have a GA-EP45-UD3P system board and I just noticed that in BIOS I don't have listed the entries for CPU Multi-Threading and Virtualization Technology. I have an Intel Q9650 Quad CPU so it seems I should be given these entries to configure. I know via the manual that some entries in BIOS don't show up based on your CPU type, but a quad core should get the two I'm missing, I would think. Does anyone know why this would happen and what I could do to resolve the problem? I've already tried reseting CMOS with a jumper, that didn't help. Should I try flashing the BIOS? Also, I noticed that pinned at the top of the forum is a list of latest BIOS files. Are these beta BIOS entries? My board came with FB BIOS and that is what shows as the latest on Gigabytes web site. Thanks for any help.
    the q9650 does not support multi threading. Meaning it can only handle one thread per core. As per Virtualization you should see that under advanced bios features.
    The sticky at the top has the latest bios and beta bios. your board being version 1.6 the latest bios would be FDa, FB is the latest non beta bios.
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    Default Re: Missing BIOS entries-why?

    I just checked out Intel's web site and the Q9650 CPU does indeed not support Hyper-Threading, although I thought this was somewhat different than Multi-Threading. So if your CPU does not support Hyper-Threading, you won't get that BIOS entry option?
    I looked on the Advanced BIOS page of my system and there is definitely no entry for Virtualization Technology. I am still concerned about not seeing that configuration option. Could I possibly have a defective CPU that is being sensed wrong by BIOS? Maybe I'm being paranoid, and it really doesn't matter since I will likely never use virtualization on this system, but it's a new system for me (first one in 8 years!) and it cost a ton of money (for me anyway) and I'd really like for it to check out clean. Thanks for any help or input anyone has.
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    Default Re: Missing BIOS entries-why?

    It may be the case that on the 1.6 version boards, both Multi threading (it is indeed different to hyper threading) and VT are both on by default and not changable.

    Have a look in task manager. If all 4 cores are visible and if a program like Prime95 can engage 4 separate threads, one on each core, then you are fine.

    there may be certain diagnostic programs such as Everest that could tell you if Virtualisation is enabled or not. It could be more important than you think. If you're planning on upgrading to Windows 7 there are some versions that allow XP emulation via VM. This feature requires hardware VM support, or it won't work.
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    Default Re: Missing BIOS entries-why?

    Thanks for the reply. I will try Everest to see if it can show whether multi-threading is enabled and whether virtualization is enabled. Does anyone know any other way to tell if these two options are enabled?
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    Default Re: Missing BIOS entries-why?

    Just open task manager. If there are 4 cores then multi threading is fine.

    For V|T, a more advanced program will be needed one that looks for VT.
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    I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think IPIU just polls the CPU for a features list. Even if SMP and VT were disabled, like the features list of CPU-ID, IPIU would still report "yes" next to the relevant technology/instruction set.

    You could always try installing a demo of any VM software that requires hardware VT. If it's disabled, the VM software would either refuse to install or refuse to launch.

    If you're not planning on using VM's though, I wouldn't worry. As long as you have the right number of cores in Task Manager and you can load them all to 100% with Prime95, you're good.
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    Default Re: Missing BIOS entries-why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho101 View Post
    I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think IPIU just polls the CPU for a features list. Even if SMP and VT were disabled, like the features list of CPU-ID, IPIU would still report "yes" next to the relevant technology/instruction set.

    You could always try installing a demo of any VM software that requires hardware VT. If it's disabled, the VM software would either refuse to install or refuse to launch.

    If you're not planning on using VM's though, I wouldn't worry. As long as you have the right number of cores in Task Manager and you can load them all to 100% with Prime95, you're good.
    You maybe right about the Intel utility but I have installed and ran Vmware with VT disabled in bios. It just runs slow.

    But as Psycho said if your not planning on using VM's I wouldn't worry about it. Just make sure the OS sees all 4 cores and they all go to full load.
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    You're correct Acebmxer, VMWare will happily run unaccelerated. I was refering to something like Microsoft Virtual PC (being renamed Windows Virtual PC for the Win 7 XP emulation). VPC will give an error upon launch if VM isn't n. There are two errors, one stating that "VM is not supported on this PC" if the CPU doesn't have the tech onboard and another asking you to enable VT or the AMD equivilant. I'm not sure if they do a demo though, and as we have both concluded, it wouldn't be worth the hastle downloading really.

    @whit80, I'll take a look at my BIOS and see if the entries for VM and SMP have been removed in F10e. If not then it must be a revision 1.6 thing. There may be a virtual BIOS on the Gigabyte site I can look through. I'm not saying you're blind or anything, I've had plenty of times where I've missed things too. I'll see what I can find, but until then , don't worry about it too much. All 4 cores working means you're configured perfectly.
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