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    Default Re: ga-ep45-ds3p and q9650 any tips?

    Sounds like another bi-monthly missunderstanding.

    I'm really keen to see how Darcon managed to worsen his overclock by setting voltages from normal to auto though. All normal does is set the stock levels, apart from references, where it may or may not scale them correctly as auto does in 90% of cases, up to a point. Maybe of he'd take the time to find the exact voltages needed, rather than ramming them on [Normal], there'd be no need for [Normal] or [Auto] settings. Why pay 100's/$100's for computer equipment and then let the components dictate voltages? Do it yourself and you know it's done right. On all other settings that don't over volt with FSB increases and that need to scale with another value (
    as MCH and CPU refs do with VTT), set them on auto.

    Darcon, you really shouldn't take things so personally. profJim posts that exact same post as a starting point for anyone un sure of voltage settings. Search him by user name, the post is found dozens upon dozens of times in that EXACT formatting, complete with bold text and under lining. There was nothing in that post targeted towards you.

    And for future reference you do not have to own exactly the same CPU to comment on the best way to set voltages in general. Applying the same principle, what makes you think you can comment seeing as you're running your Q9650 on a UD3P and not a DS3P.

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    Default Re: ga-ep45-ds3p and q9650 any tips?

    Ahh, well I could not tell and the post had been edited so not sure if something was changed, or I was just not seeing the issue (If any?) Looked like he thanked him one post before and said how he helped him get stable before his other comment.

    I agree with you on your thoughts on Auto/Normal, it's never advised (By Me anyway-even at stock) and why pay $100's for a board to let it decide what may or may not be correct per your hardware. Dell's/HP's are for that. I do realize many users may think that is ok or correct though, and I do not blame them really as a lot of people have been told/taught that if you are not overclocking or even if you are auto/normal will be fine on many things.

    The sad truth to that is, many users who are using Auto/Normal even at stock will have issues until there settings are properly adjusted and tested per their hardware.

    I did not see any issues with anything said in this thread, so I am not sure what upset him unless there was discussions via PM or another forum/thread?

    I suppose you just have to post and move on sometimes.....

    Thanks from me to both of you, as always, for ALL YOUR HELP HERE!!

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    Default Re: ga-ep45-ds3p and q9650 any tips?

    [QUOTE=Lsdmeasap;318736
    I suppose you just have to post and move on sometimes.....

    Thanks from me to both of you, as always, for ALL YOUR HELP HERE!![/QUOTE]

    The funny thing about auto or normal or what specific voltage with CPU isn't mentioned in what for manual you come across the net or the manual in the box for that matter.

    Despite I'm asking for tips it doesn't mean we don't have a technical background.
    I'm for one glad that their are helping people out there to share knowledge but you always have to verify if it's correct ;-)
    I don't see it's as a contest and you always have to re-read a topic because people are coming from different backgrounds and countries.
    (Even in this topic some are asking for the information already provide ;-))
    Sometimes it's difficult to type and translate your exact thoughts in a foreign language...

    So I would like to thank all that contributed in here for the help offered really appreciated.
    Currently running at 3.8 stable 24/7 would love to go at 4.0 ghz but I'm concerned about the temps and the strain on this particular CPU.

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    I agree. Anything posted on an internet forum is open to interpretation due to lack of face-to-face conversation. No way of seeing facial expressions or hearing the tone of someones voice can mean emotion and intent are hard to express.

    I bear no ill will to anyone that takes something the wrong way, it just angers me at times that some people seem to presume the worst possible meaning of things. profJim, as most can see was simply posting some helpful info. He's posted that message countless times when helping people with voltage choices. He's much more organised than me. I should really write up some general templates to add to for some answers but I'm not that efficient.

    I'm glad you have 3.8GHz nice and stable. If you were to post a re-cap of your current settings along with load temperatures using both Prime95 and IBT I'm sure we can try and get you to the magic 4GHz.

    CPU voltages are hard to include in user manual etc because each CPU that comes off the production line is individually tested and assigned it's own VID (Voltage ID). So two identical chips cut from the same silicon, maybe side by side can possibly have very different stock voltages. One may have a 1.20V VID and another may have a 1.2625V VID for example. This usually means that a CPU with al low VID could be stable at the same clocks as a higher VID chip, with a little less voltage. This isn't always the case though. Also it's been noted on many occasions that some chips that are stable on really low voltages at high clocks still get rather warm, sometimes warmer than you'd think for the voltages applied.

    As you may know, DTS sensor readings aren't the most accurate things in the world, but they are a good guide. My personal absolute limit under full prime load is 70c but I'm much happier at 65c or under, just personal preference. I can replace the CPU if it goes belly up as it's only a cheap E&xxx. if you are nervous about how long your CPU will last, adjust your comfort zone accordingly. The odds are that the CPU will out live its usefulness and be replaced long long before it dies anyway. This has been the case for every CPU I've ever owned. My last CPU was a X2 3800+ and has been running at ~1.6V (VID is 1.35-1.4V) and 2.5GHz+ for three years and is still going strong.

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