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    Default Re: Long boot time and High temps

    These are settings I use for 490 fsb ,100% reliable so far (10 months)
    For 500 fsb I need much more cpu and memory voltage but its hard to tell if that is to do with the memory.
    Temps dont get much over 65C on cores at 490 fsb.
    For 3ghz you may not have to go over stock voltages at all/much but high cpu speed is better than high memory speed,in general.





    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Fast
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 7
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3.43Ghz


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 490Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Auto or 100

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 700
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< +50ps


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [Turbo]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Auto or disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2:00D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 980
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................5
    tRCD .........................................5
    tRP'...........................................5
    tRAS..........................................15

    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first. Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................aut o
    tWTR..........................................auto
    tWR............................................aut o
    tRFC...........................................aut o or as low as 48
    tRTP...........................................aut o
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2

    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................auto

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:9
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:9
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto ps

    Motherboard Voltage Control

    CPU
    Load line calibration [ENABLED]
    CPU Vcore….……….........................:1.34375V(1.31 approx under load)

    CPU Termination…..... 1.34V

    CPU PLL…………………....1.59V

    CPU Referen.…………....0.848V


    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.38V
    MCH Reference….…….0.848
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......1.03V
    ICH I/O……………….....1.57V
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............: <<< Leave

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............:2.08V
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............:1.03V
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............: auto
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............: auto

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Enabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Enabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]unavailable on Q8200

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Enabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB
    Last edited by kick; 09-09-2009 at 12:33 AM.
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    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
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    Default Re: Long boot time and High temps

    Here are my old settings from when I had my Q8200. these are for a 3.4GHz clock speed, the max I could get out of the CPU:

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     MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 7
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 3402MHz
    
    
    Clock Chip Control 
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled] 
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 486
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:Set to 100
    
    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]
    
    
    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 900
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<< 0ps
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<< 0ps
    
    
    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 972
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]
    
    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................  [5]
    tRCD .........................................  [5]
    tRP'...........................................  [5]
    tRAS..........................................  [15]
    
    Set all Suggested below to highest Values first.  Then later you can lower, one at a time, testing as you go
    
    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................  [Auto]
    tWTR..........................................  [Auto]
    tWR............................................  [Auto]
    tRFC...........................................  [Auto]
    tRTP...........................................  [Auto]
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:2
    
    Driving Strength Profiles
    Driving Strength ............................ 1066
    
    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................: 9
     
    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................: 9
     
    Motherboard Voltage Control
    
    CPU
    
    Load Line Calibration .......................  [Enabled]
    
    CPU Vcore….……….........................: [1.36875]
    
    CPU Termination…..... 1.200V*.......:  [1.280V]
    
    CPU PLL…………………....1.500V*.......:  [1.570V]
    
    CPU Reference.…………....0.760V*.......:  Set CPU term top 1.2V then set this to 0.785, 
    then set CPU termination back upward.
    
    
    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core…………….....1.100V...........:  1.260V
    MCH Reference….…….0.760V...........; 0.760 @ 1.2 CPU Termination
    MCH/DRAM Ref.…......0.900V...........:  [Auto]
    ICH I/O……………….....1.500V............:  [1.500V]
    ICH Core…………...……1.100V............:  [1.100V]
    
    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……....1.800V............:  [2.100V]
    DRAM Termination .…0.900V............:  [Auto]
    Channel A Reference 0.900V............:  [Auto]
    Channel B Reference 0.900V............:  [Auto]
    
    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    
    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled] *Note* Must be enabled to flash from USB
    Your temps are nothing to worry about either. A 4870 with a stock cooler will idle at between 55c and 70c and load up to 85c-90c. 34c for the CPU diode isn't all that high either. it's load temps that matter, and with the CPU, it's the temps read from the DTS sensors that count. Download RealTemp or CoreTemp to get a direct reading from the DTS sensors. they're never 100% accurate though.

    With my Q8200 there was a surprisingly small temp difference between idle and load. Idle at stock was 38C and load was 50c. At 3.4GHz this increased to 41c idle and 61c load.
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    Default Re: Long boot time and High temps

    Looks like you should have some settings to work from now, post back if you have any issues and include the full settings you try that fail and we can advise back

    Good luck with the tweaking

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    Indeed. A progress report would be great. I'd like to see how you get on with your chip.

    Also, I don't know if kick tested this, but I tried to see how far my Q8200 would go with the Vcore set to [Normal]. This meant that it would stay at the VID no matter how much FSB I gave it. [Normal] also allowed EIST and C1E to drop the Vcore to 1.1V at idle, unlike setting the Vcore manually. I got to 2.83GHz with it stable on stock voltages including CPU termination, with MCH core at 1.22V. 2.9GHz (415 FSB) failed after 3 1/2 hours in Prime, but the 2.83GHz (405 FSB) near stock config passed 12 hours without issue.
    Last edited by Psycho101; 09-10-2009 at 04:07 AM. Reason: Wrote wrong clock speeds and FSB.
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    TRUE Black with a single Noctua NF-P12 pumping out 55 CFM @ 19db .
    2 x 2GB Mushkin Ridgeback (996902), @ 7-10-8-27, 2010-DDR, 1.66v
    2 x Gigabyte GTX 460 1024MB in SLI (Pre OC'd to 715MHz core and 1800MHz VRAM) @ 850 Core / 4100 Mem.
    Intel X25-M Boot Drive (OS and Programs) 200MB/s Read & 90MB/s Write
    Corsair X32 200MB/s Read & 100MB/s Write
    WD Caviar Blue 640GB C (Steam, Games, Storage, Temp Files & Folders, etc)
    Samsung F3 500GB Backup/Images
    Noctua 1300RPM 19dB case fan (rear extraction)
    3 x 140 MM Coolermaster LED fans (one front intake, one top extraction, one side intake)
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    Default Re: Long boot time and High temps

    well yeh
    up to around 30-35% overclock approx: you can undervolt n all sorts ,v quiet fans etc all that good stuff"silent running"..but honestly i dont have any settings for that.
    This link gives an indication
    http://www.ocforums.com/attachment.p...1&d=1229988885
    Last edited by kick; 09-10-2009 at 06:41 AM.
    Current Systems:

    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
    http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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    Default Re: Long boot time and High temps

    what u have is
    ep 45 ud3 board and a good aftermarket cpu cooler +q8200=ep45 ud3 +q9550 with standard cpu cooler roughly.
    Also for 3 ghz you shouldnt need an aftermarket cooler.
    I got a well below market price deal on my q8200 a long time ago and its been great,now while the 775 quads still have some life in them,the q 8400 might be the best value one.

    My cooler came with 1336 cpu mounting plate so thats good...dunno what new i5 cpu mounting will be tho.


    Seems to me the best value deal overall is a good basic dell/packard/ with a locked mbrd..then get your gigabyte mbrd and clock the cpu,(oem os tou can reauthenticate v easily as long as you dont do it too much)
    Thats probably what ill try on my next system.
    Current Systems:

    Asrock p67 Extreme6.............. Gigabyte EP-45 UD3 ...................... Gigabyte 73 PVM S2
    Intel i5 2500k 4.8ghz................ Intel Q8400 3.8ghz......................... Intel D820 2.8ghz
    Zalman 10x cooler.................... Coolermaster V8............................ HP cooler
    8GB Gskill ripjaw ddr3.............. 4GB Gskill PI ddr2.......................... 4GB samsung ddr2
    60GB ssd/500GB HDD .............. WD 1TB hdd.................................... Seagate 160GB hdd
    GTX 460 1GB x2 SLI ................. Msi 9600GT 512MB(died) ........... Onboard gx
    Win7 64 ,750w psu(ocz)............ Win7 64 ,520w psu,seasonic...... Win XP pro ,400w psu

    HEC 6A34 case . ....................... Jeantec R2 case............................ Packard Bell case

    hoping to upgrade to http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/habicase.shtml
    http://www.flixya.com/video/140325/Animal-launching

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    Default Re: Long boot time and High temps

    ok i am back sorry i took so long, just got laid off this week so you know how that goes, now here is my post:

    this is the only setting i changed from what Kick had suggested. and i left all the values in advance timing on auto only changed the ones that he put a number by. cpuz claims i am only doing x6 on cpu clock ration, but my motherboard has it at x7?

    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 480Mhz

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    CPU-Z Validator 3.1

    ok it goes from x6 to x7 from time to time is this normal?

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    Those Q8200 OC's look real good, i've heard they aren't the greatest at it. Very well done. I almost got one of those to begin with . But the power of the i7 can not be resisted.
    i7 930 @ 4.2 ghz (200x21) 1.34 vcore 1.33 qpi
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