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    Default Re: Pass the 4Ghz with EP-45UD3L

    I need to see the FULL settings each time, otherwise I am making blind guesses

    My blind guess for you until I see it all would be try .68-.72 MCH ref, with all various Vtt amounts between 1.26-1.34. ( I think .70-.72 may be best, once you find the right Vtt)

    Also, WAY less MCH Core, 1.20-1.24 should be plenty

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    Default Re: Pass the 4Ghz with EP-45UD3L

    Hey, finally wrote all my BIOS settings:

    CPU = Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (E0)
    Motherboard = EP-45UD3l, Revision A3
    BIOS Version = F4
    Ram = OCZ DDR2 PC2-6400 Reaper CL4 4GB Edition

    OCZ Technology | Products | Memory | OCZ DDR2 PC2-6400 Reaper CL4 4GB Edition

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9X
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 4.10 Ghz (456X9)


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 456 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100 Mhz

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800mv
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 800mv
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<<


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00B
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 912Mhz
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................ 5
    tRCD ......................................... 5
    tRP'........................................... 5
    tRAS.......................................... 15

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3
    tWTR..........................................3
    tWR............................................6
    tRFC...........................................54
    tRTP...........................................3
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:0

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:Auto (9)
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:Auto (9)
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto

    Motherboard Voltage Control

    CPU
    CPU Vcore….………...............: 1.33125V
    CPU Termination….............: 1.360V
    CPU PLL…………………...............: 1.550V
    CPU Referen.………….............: AUTO

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core……………................: 1.200V
    MCH Reference….……............; AUTO
    ICH I/O………………................: 1.550V
    ICH Core…………...……............: 1.100V

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……................: 2.200V

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled]

    It boots only with Vtt of 1.360V, for some reason.
    So here it is, boots to windows, soon trying IBT, wish me luck !



    Update:
    No, after 20 seconds in IBT it gone BSOD, of course :)
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    Last edited by NeoStorm; 09-11-2009 at 04:51 PM.

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    Default Re: Pass the 4Ghz with EP-45UD3L

    It looks like you didn't load OPTIMIZED bios settings before you started your overclock.
    Loading optimized settings is required before you apply your tweaks.

    Post a screenshot that includes:
    Memset using the SPD and ">>" tabs
    cpu-z cpu screen
    EasyTune6 --> TUNER tab --> ADVANCE tab --> VOLTAGE tab

    and we can offer memory tweaks for better performance.
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
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    Default Re: Pass the 4Ghz with EP-45UD3L

    Noooooooooooooooooooooooo


    I am about to scream from seeing that, I think it needs to be added to the top of each sticky or something!

    Please as noted above, START ALL Over and load optimized defaults then try tweaking agin.

    There is visible and invisible settings that do not get set correctly when you start with Fail Safe

    From what you have above, less Vtt and possibly set your own tRD as what you see (9) on the left in the BIOS is not what is used 99% of the time

    For 450+ FSB you may need to use 2.00D and tRD of 8-9

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    Default Re: Pass the 4Ghz with EP-45UD3L

    Thanks for the help, now trying optimized defaults.
    Last edited by NeoStorm; 09-11-2009 at 05:10 PM.

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    Default Re: Pass the 4Ghz with EP-45UD3L

    We do not mean to sound rude or anything, so please do not take it in that way

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    Talking Re: Pass the 4Ghz with EP-45UD3L

    Quote:
    <table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Noooooooooooooooooooooooo


    I am about to scream from seeing that, I think it needs to be added to the top of each sticky or something!

    Please as noted above, START ALL Over and load optimized defaults then try tweaking agin. </td> </tr> </tbody></table>
    LOL, I feel like I've earned the honorary title of "Optimized Bios Setting Nanny Checker".

    If it is added to stickies, it probably needs to be with bold, oversized flashing fonts.
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    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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    Default Re: Pass the 4Ghz with EP-45UD3L

    Don't feel bad, I OFTEN ask specifically for FULL settings because I know many people fail and fail and fail and end up trying to make things work from Fail Safe and that only makes things worse.

    You are not alone in your quest to resolve this issue. I will try to get something wrote up somewhere and linked or added to all stickies

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    Default Re: Pass the 4Ghz with EP-45UD3L

    Quote Originally Posted by Lsdmeasap View Post
    We do not mean to sound rude or anything, so please do not take it in that way
    No problems man. I know you try to help me get the best OC out of my rig.

    Now, loaded optimized defaults. Applied the tweaks 2.00D and trrd or 9 manually. Tried a lower Vtt like 1.34V, but it will not load windows, yet boot.

    MB Intelligent Tweaker(M.I.T.)
    Robust Graphics Booster ...............: Auto
    CPU Clock Ratio ..........................: 9X
    Fine CPU Clock Ratio.....................:.0
    CPU Frequency ...........................: 4.10 Ghz (456X9)


    Clock Chip Control
    Standard Clock Control
    CPU Host Clock Control..................: [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (Mhz) ............: 456 Mhz
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz) .........:100 Mhz

    C.I.A.2 .................................:[Disabled]


    Advanced Clock Control [Press Enter]
    CPU Clock Drive...........................: <<< 800mv
    PCI Express Clock Drive.................: <<< 800mv
    CPU Clock Skew (ps)....................: <<<
    MCH Clock Skew (ps)...................: <<<


    DRAM Performance Control
    Performance Enhance...................: [STANDARD]
    Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.).....: Disabled
    (G)MCH Frequency Latch...............: [Auto]
    System Memory Multiplier ..............: 2.00D
    Memory Frequency (Mhz) ..............: 912Mhz
    DRAM Timing Selectable ................: [Manual]

    Standard Timing Control
    CAS Latency Time........................ 5
    tRCD ......................................... 5
    tRP'........................................... 5
    tRAS.......................................... 15

    Advanced Timing Control
    tRRD...........................................3
    tWTR..........................................3
    tWR............................................6
    tRFC...........................................54
    tRTP...........................................3
    Command Rate (CMD) ....................:0

    Channel A
    Static tRead Value.........................:9
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto

    Channel B
    Static tRead Value.........................:9
    tRD Phase0 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase1 Adjustment...................:Auto
    tRD Phase2 Adjustment .................:Auto
    tRD Phase3 Adjustment..................:Auto
    Trd2rd(Different Rank)....................:Auto
    Twr2wr(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Twr2rd(Different Rank)...................:Auto
    Trd2wr(Same/Diff Rank)..................:Auto
    Dimm1 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto
    Dimm2 Clock Skew Control...............:Auto

    Motherboard Voltage Control

    CPU
    CPU Vcore….………...............: 1.33125V
    CPU Termination….............: 1.360V
    CPU PLL…………………...............: 1.550V
    CPU Referen.………….............: AUTO

    MCH/ICH
    MCH Core……………................: 1.200V
    MCH Reference….……............; AUTO
    ICH I/O………………................: 1.550V
    ICH Core…………...……............: 1.100V

    DRAM
    DRAM Voltage ……................: 2.200V

    Advanced Settings
    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect ..............[Disabled]

    Last edited by NeoStorm; 09-11-2009 at 05:36 PM.

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    Default Re: Pass the 4Ghz with EP-45UD3L

    I'm toying with the idea of adding the following to my forum signature:

    Loading OPTIMZED bios defaults is REQUIRED before you tweak your bios settings.
    This includes new system setups and immediately after flashing your bios!!!

    whatcha think?
    OK, maybe the flaming icons are a bit much.....
    Q9650 @ 4.10GHz [9x456MHz]
    P35-DS4 [rev: 2.0] ~ Bios: F14
    4x2GB OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 1094MHz @5-5-5-15
    MSI N460GTX Hawk Talon Attack (1GB) video card <---- SLI ---->
    Seasonic SS-660XP2 80 Plus Platinum psu (660w)
    WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data)
    Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD (boot)
    SLI @ 16/4 works when running HyperSLI
    Cooler Master 120XL Seidon push/pull AIO cpu water cooling
    Cooler Master HAF XB computer case (RC-902XB-KKN1)
    Asus VH242H 24" monitor [1920x1080]
    MSI N460GTX Hawk (1GB) video card
    Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium
    HT|Omega Claro plus+ sound card
    CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD UPS
    E6300 (R0) @ 3.504GHz [8x438MHz] ~~ P35-DS3L [rev: 1.0] ~ Bios: F9 ~~ 4x2GB Kingston HyperX T1 PC2-8500, 876MHz @4-4-4-10
    Seasonic X650 80+ gold psu (650w) ~~ Xigmatek Balder HDT 1283 cpu cooler ~~ Cooler Master CM 690 case (RC-690-KKN1-GP)
    Samsung 830 128GB SSD MZ-7PC128B/WW (boot) ~~ WD Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB (data) ~~ ZM-MFC2 fan controller
    HT|Omega Striker 7.1 sound card ~~ Asus VH242H monitor [1920x1080] ~~ Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers
    win7 x64 sp1 Home Premium ~~ CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD U.P.S
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