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Thread: EX38-DS4 - OCZ Titanium 1150MHz - Can't set it right!




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    Default Re: EX38-DS4 - OCZ Titanium 1150MHz - Can't set it right!

    Ok here's a little update:

    The stock voltage for E8500 is 1.225 @ 3.16GHz (stock).

    Now I'm at 3.24GHz and I manually set the voltage to 1.23v.
    The CPU is at 35~38 Deg and the cores are at 51 deg.

    So finally I have these setting running on my computer:
    CPU: 3.24GHz
    Mult.: 9.0
    Bus speed: 360Mhz
    Rated FSB (have no idea what it means): 1440Mhz
    RAM: 1152MHz
    CAS/RAS: 5 5 5 18.

    My final question is this: Can I get more juice from my RAM (lets say 1200MHz) and a bit more from my CPU (lets say 3.4GHz) with the Zalman 9500 cooling? (in Israel it's marketed as 9600CnPU LED).

    Note: from some reason the Zalman is always at 2626RPM even with smart fan enabled or disabled. It's quite a noisy fan and I'm not sure if it's capable for the job.
    The RAM cooling radiators can be seen in this link.

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    Default Re: EX38-DS4 - OCZ Titanium 1150MHz - Can't set it right!

    That's more reasonable temps. Load is Prime95/Orthos?
    SmartFan need to be in voltage mode to work with this fan I believe.

    You can try DDR-1200 or 432FSB with 2.66D multiplier and CPU Ratio 7.5(for now) for the same DDR rate and CPU speed and see the difference between the two. As for memory performance I believe higher FSB will give better results.
    You may need to over volt MCH Core and FSB +0.1v for this bus speed.
    As long as temps are OK you may increase CPU Ratio/vcore, 3.45GHz/3.67GHz sould not be a problem for the E8500, with good heatsink it can do over 4GHz.
    Is that a dual GPU card that you have? It may well benefit from additional overclock. Do some 3D benchmark or compare FPS in games you play for comparison.

    Shana tova

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    Default Re: EX38-DS4 - OCZ Titanium 1150MHz - Can't set it right!

    Your 1440fsb = quad pumped 360.

    http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/giga...ettings-33613/

    It would be easier to help if you would get a bios template from link above, and fill in ALL settings as they are in your bios.

    Trying to keep your ram in the 1150-1200 range limits your choices, but can be done. you have 3.2, 2.66, 2.0 dividers?

    Your 1440fsb = quad pumped 360. I am not recommending this, but illustrating a point. If 2.66 is your next lower divider, then a 433 bus (1732 fsb), using the 2.66 divider gives 1150MHz ram again. A 433 bus gives 4.1GHz with the 9.5 multiplier. That's a big leap from where you are now, and would probably need better cooling solutions.

    The speed of the ram is not the be all of performance. Running at lower speeds with tighter timings (like 1150 vs 800) the difference in read, write and latency can be small. Usually one chooses cpu settings first, and ram speed is then "best fit".

    My ram has been at 860, 1032, 1066, and 1074, depending on cpu speed, with relatively small performance differences between them. Fast ram can allow a slightly higher overclock for a given divider, but it is cpu overclocking that delivers the greatest benefits.

    You should be able to use your 9.5 multiplier at your present fsb.

    I think ...... correct me if wrong!





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    Cooling = EK HF Full Nickel
    - XSPC RX360 - Laing DDC 18W - XSPC Bay Reservoir
    Motherboard = GA-X58A-UD3R Revision 2
    , BIOS Version = Award FC
    Ram = 3x2gig Corsair TR3X6G1600C8D G
    Video = 2 X Palit GTX460 Sonic Platinum 1GB OC sli
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    Default Re: EX38-DS4 - OCZ Titanium 1150MHz - Can't set it right!

    You mean 9.5X360=3.42GHz?

    I think it is possible but I'm not sure about the voltage setting.

    In addition, I can't recall all the settings in my BIOS in order to post them in this template.

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    Default Re: EX38-DS4 - OCZ Titanium 1150MHz - Can't set it right!

    Print out the template, restart PC, press delete(?) to enter bios, copy all settings, post them here. (u could try 9.5 while there)

    cpu voltage need not change, or use next increment if unstable or fails boot.





    CPU
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    i7 950 - DO stepping - Batch #3014A844
    Cooling = EK HF Full Nickel
    - XSPC RX360 - Laing DDC 18W - XSPC Bay Reservoir
    Motherboard = GA-X58A-UD3R Revision 2
    , BIOS Version = Award FC
    Ram = 3x2gig Corsair TR3X6G1600C8D G
    Video = 2 X Palit GTX460 Sonic Platinum 1GB OC sli
    Monitor = 22" LG Flatron W2242T 1680 x 1050 Case = Coolermaster CM690
    PSU = Corsair HX850
    OS = Windows 7 Professional x64


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    Default Re: EX38-DS4 - OCZ Titanium 1150MHz - Can't set it right!


    Here are the HWMonitor results:

    Imageshack - hwmonitor - Uploaded by gil80

    BIOS Settings:

    Robust Graphics Booster___________ [Auto]
    CPU Clock Ratio ____________ [9]
    Fine Clock Ratio ____________[0.5]
    CPU Host Clock Control_ [Enabled]
    CPU Host Frequency (MHz)__________ [360]
    PCI Express Frequency (Mhz)_______ [AUTO]
    C.I.A. 2__________________________ [Disabled]
    System Memory Multiplier (SPD)____ [3.20B]
    DRAM Timing Selectable_______ SPD __ [Manual]

    Performance Enhance = [Standard]

    CAS Latency Time_________5_______
    Dram RAS# to CAS# Delay_____5____
    Dram RAS# Precharge Delay__5_____
    Precharge Delay (tRAS)_____18_____

    ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)_____3____
    Rank Write to READ Delay____3____
    Write to Precharge Delay____6_____
    Refresh to ACT Delay________54______
    Read to Precharge Delay_____3_____
    Static tRead Value__________6_____
    Static tRead Phase Adjust___0_____

    CPU/PCIEX Clock Driving Control [800mV]
    CPU Clock Skew Control [normal]
    GMCH Clock Skew Control [Normal]

    System Voltage Control____ [Manual]
    DDR2 OverVoltage Control__ [+0.300V]
    PCI-E OverVoltage Control_ [normal]
    FSB OverVoltage Control___ [normal]
    (G)MCH OverVoltage Control [normal]
    CPU LOAD LINE [Auto]
    CPU Voltage Control_______ [1.2375]

    Limit CPUID Max. to 3.....................: [Disabled]
    No-Execute Memory Protect............: [Enabled]
    CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)................: [Disabled]
    C2/C2E State Support....................: [Disabled]
    x C4/C4E State Support..................: [Disabled]
    CPU Thermal Monitor 2(TM2) ...........: [Enabled]
    CPU EIST Function.........................: [Disabled]
    Virtualization Technology................: [Disabled]

    Integrated Peripherals
    Legacy USB Storage Detect: Disabled
    CPU: Intel E8500 @ 3.16GHz
    RAM: OCZ Titanium 2x2GB & G.Skill 2x2GB @ 800MHz
    MB: Gigabyte EX38-DS4 (BIOS F3)
    GPU: ATI Palit 4870 1GB Dual Edition
    PSU: ThermalTake 750W
    Cooling: Ximgatek Achilles 1284S
    Case: CoolerMaster 690

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    Default Re: EX38-DS4 - OCZ Titanium 1150MHz - Can't set it right!

    Is Static tRead Value set to auto? If so see what is it actually set to with MemSet (Performance Level)

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    Default Re: EX38-DS4 - OCZ Titanium 1150MHz - Can't set it right!

    Static tREAD is set to 6 by default in the BIOS.

    Here is a screenshot of memset:
    MEMSET SCREENSHOT
    Last edited by Gil80; 09-19-2009 at 07:51 PM.
    CPU: Intel E8500 @ 3.16GHz
    RAM: OCZ Titanium 2x2GB & G.Skill 2x2GB @ 800MHz
    MB: Gigabyte EX38-DS4 (BIOS F3)
    GPU: ATI Palit 4870 1GB Dual Edition
    PSU: ThermalTake 750W
    Cooling: Ximgatek Achilles 1284S
    Case: CoolerMaster 690

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    Default Re: EX38-DS4 - OCZ Titanium 1150MHz - Can't set it right!

    When overclocking pcie express frequency best set at 100 rather than auto.

    Usually with 4Gig of ram MCH voltage needs +.2v for stability. If you have any instability that would be the first thing to try. (Memtest to check stability?)

    tRD of 6 is good. Everest has a cache & memory test in "tools" that ppls use to test results of changed ram settings.

    Those are the settings? Not AUTO, but entered?





    CPU
    =
    i7 950 - DO stepping - Batch #3014A844
    Cooling = EK HF Full Nickel
    - XSPC RX360 - Laing DDC 18W - XSPC Bay Reservoir
    Motherboard = GA-X58A-UD3R Revision 2
    , BIOS Version = Award FC
    Ram = 3x2gig Corsair TR3X6G1600C8D G
    Video = 2 X Palit GTX460 Sonic Platinum 1GB OC sli
    Monitor = 22" LG Flatron W2242T 1680 x 1050 Case = Coolermaster CM690
    PSU = Corsair HX850
    OS = Windows 7 Professional x64


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    Default Re: EX38-DS4 - OCZ Titanium 1150MHz - Can't set it right!

    Set to 8 actually, don't trust what BIOS show as default to be the value that is actually used, 7 or even 6 may be possible.

    EDIT: could you also post screen capture of MemSet spd(click sod) window?

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