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    Default Help me Wipeout Intel SSD with HDDerase

    Good morning/afternoon all ! I would like restore my Intel SSDG2 drive to its original state using HDDerase. Could someone please be so kind to tell me the proper procedure from beginning to end to do this? They have info in this article AnandTech: The SSD Anthology: Understanding SSDs and New Drives from OCZ , all it really says to do is boot to dos and perform it.

    Could someone give me a solid explanation on how to perform this please?

    Edit: i did find other info on how to perform, looks easy enough. Now what i need to know is would i use HDerase 3.3, or 4.0 ? Everyone says 3.3 is for the G1 drives and i am having a hard time finding info if this is compatible with the G2 drives. Would it be safe to just try both and see which works?
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    Default Re: Help me Wipeout Intel SSD with HDDerase

    You have to use version 3.3 since the latest one doesn't support the Intel series.

    Here is a somewhat well detailed guide on what to do:

    How to Secure Erase (reset) an Intel Solid State Drive (SSD) - IIS Hacks | Server Resources

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    Just what i need . Thanks a million Mr. Blades for the Solid answer.
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    Default Re: Help me Wipeout Intel SSD with HDDerase

    I posted in the Runcore forum yesterday, a little mini guide for completely clearting all SSD flash blocks. Post is located here: http://forums.tweaktown.com/f78/runc...tml#post327951

    I've also written a SSD mini guide, detailing basic features, performance benefits and drawbacks, as well as restore methods for different drives etc. Look out for it in the Memory section soon. Dunno if it's good enough to get stickied, but knowing the Memory section, it'll be near the top for a while any way.

    EDIT!!!

    Forgot to mention. If you really want to preserve as many completely clear flash blocks as possible, I recommend imaging the drive first, then secure erasing (normal option 1 is fine) followed by a re-image. The re-image is treated as a single long write and so won't waste flash blocks. An OS install from CD will create alot of temp files and other small writes, which you want to avoid to keep the drive in pristine condition.
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    I will be doing a fresh install of win7 for this. Only way i can think of doing this would be Fresh install of 7 to the SSD along with my apps, image it to my Data drive, Do the secure erase on the SSD, then image back over to the SSD. Sound about right?
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    And by the way, thanks for the guide- real good stuff. Your a good guy Psycho, i've been having trouble lately trying to restore my bro's system with nobody even trying to help me out. He just went ahead and got a new Mobo. Upside is , he got the 1.6 revision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbee View Post
    I will be doing a fresh install of win7 for this. Only way i can think of doing this would be Fresh install of 7 to the SSD along with my apps, image it to my Data drive, Do the secure erase on the SSD, then image back over to the SSD. Sound about right?
    That's exactly right.

    I'm currently doing that. Got my copy of |Windows 7 yesterday. I've just finished configuring everything, drivers, basic programs, moving page file, temp directories etc and have set up a RAM drive for the Internet cache. That's been imaged. Now I'll install the games I'm currently playing, then image again, secure erase and restore, saving the fresh image for when I want to change games.
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    I would rather do it the normal way, but then again, i would rather learn something new. I have never imaged before. YES i know. Call me a noob lol. I dont like screwing things up, so let me run this by u step by step to be %100 certain.

    1. Backup what i need for the fresh win7 install
    2. Install win7 and my required apps.
    3. image my win7/apps from the ssd to my DATA drive
    4. insert my hdderase iso dvd to boot dos and run the program, let it erase
    5. reboot, switch boot order to HDD first- will this automatically send the image to my SSD? And will i have to select which drive to image from manually?
    6. done.

    my last concern is how does or how to load the image to the ssd afterwards. Im sorry for repeating myself, im just unsure how this imaging works. that would be the last thing i need to be clear on Psycho- thanks for all the help.
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    i've read your awesome guide like 10 times today, i will use that directly from your page tomorrow. also forgot...
    Set the SATA controller to IDE and all ports to legacy IDE. im about to run through my BIOS to get the idea.
    Only thing i dont see is , how to get the image from my DATA drive transferred to the SSD.
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    I use Acronis True Image.

    Install Win 7 on the SSD, choosing not to keep the previous OS (either delete all partitions in Win 7 Setup or quick format the existing ones)

    Install all drivers and programs needed.

    Install Acronis and create the bootable program CD.

    Re-boot with the CD in the drive, hit F12 and select boot from CDROM.

    When Acronis C|D loads, open the main program and choose "Backup my Drives".

    Select both the small system partition Win 7 creates (100MB in size) and the partition with the OS on it.

    Don't choose sector by sector, leave everything at default.

    Click through the wizard and it will ask you to specify where to store the image and what to call it. Save it to your mechanical HDD and call it what you like.

    Wait about 3 minutes till it's done.

    When finished, restart, set the ICH10R to IDE mode, disable native mode and insert the bootable media with HDDErase 3.3 on it.

    Restart, run HDDErase.exe and follow the instructions. You'll be asked to choose the drive to erase. Choose the Intel SSD. If it's on SATA_0 you'll have to type "P0" to select it (it'll tell you what to type for which drive etc). What ever you do do NOT mistakenly try and erase your mechanical HDD.

    Choose the first erase option, not the extra secure one. Confirm you want to erase and wait. It only takes around 30 seconds (~2ms per 512k flash block).

    Your Drive is now utterly empty. No garbage data clogging any blocks. You can now procede to restore your image. It will restore as basically one big write operation, leaving loads of empty blocks free.

    To restore, Go back into the BIOS and reenable AHCI and native mode, then switch back to the Acronis boot CD and save and exit. Hit F12 to go to the boot menu and boot from CD again.

    Choose restore my drive and select the archive name you want to restore. Choose the drive you want to restore it to. Wait approx 3 minutes (takes me 2 min for ~9gig of OS and progs.

    When the operation's complete, restart the PC and remove the boot disc.

    Done.
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